Re: anti-candida diet to kill lymes bacteria

[Guest guest]

Hi Chris! Just wanted to reply and say that yes, diet / lifestyle changes and

supplements have absolutely helped, if not eradicated my Lyme symptoms! I don't

follow Bee's exact candida diet but since reading her website a few months ago I

have followed the " common sense " approach of cutting out coffee, refined sugar,

any foods with chemicals (at least as much as possible) and eating far more

vegetables and whole grains and my symptoms have nearly gone! The sugar was the

most important thing to cut out, and I start to feel worse again if I start

eating it! The other important thing is breathing more deeply and slowly (this

almost completely eradicated my lifelong muscle pain- I wish I had developed

some more sense earlier!). Basically, if you create a less toxic environment for

the bacteria and preserve as many nutrients as you can instead of destroying

them with much of the unhealthy food we eat, the bacteria cannot thrive, and

your immune system is strengthened! There is no treatment as effective as the

immune system, which after all is designed to fight anything, as long as we keep

it in good order! I am strongly against long term drugs due to their toxicity

and the fact that in 99% of cases that I have heard about, they just make things

worse! I would love to write a longer post about my improvements on Lyme Aid or

Eurolyme but have got some aggressive / abusive responses in the past from

people who are not able to tolerate another point of view, so I try to stay away

from support groups now. Anyway, I believe we are all responsible for our own

health and we can keep Lyme bacteria under control, just like we do with all the

other bacteria we are carrying around all the time.. Just to be clear, this is

is not about finding a " cure " , as bacteria cannot be completely eradicated, just

controlled so that it does not affect us badly! I may not have been suffering

from the very worst case of Lyme, but I went from completely exhausted, head

fuzzy, bad concentration and memory, extremely painful muscles and generally

feeling awful all the time, to 99% normal in 3 months, from following some basic

logic with diet and lifestyle! I hope that has helped..? Best wishes and good

luck! Clara

[Guest guest]

Elli

thank-you so much for responding. I was beginning to wonder if any-one would. I

believe diet plays a major part in all illnesses. The immune system has to be

weakened by something for an illness, even like Lymes, to cause major issues. I

guess what causes the weakened immune system is individual to each person, but I

do know diet plays a major part. I thought I was eating healthy, but something

this past fall caused me to feel really sick. It affected my muscles with a

strange weakness that left me feeling fluish. My alternative care doctor , who

is Lyme literate, believed I had Lymes, even though I never saw a tick bite and

never had a postitive test. I have through the years had fatigue, foggy

thinking, and the symptoms you described. It wasn't until I found bee's website

that I realized how similar candida and lymes symptoms are. My doctor gave me

very strong herbs that he said would cause die=off with any bacteria or fungi.

They must have worked for immediately I began having die-off symptoms.When

reading bee's website I realized candida could be being fed by even the raw

dairy I had been eating and properly prepared grains. I guess I then began to

wonder about the candida Lymes connection. If we have candida, very common in

about 80% of people today, then our immune system also suffers, and Lymes can

take hold of us, along with other things. I do know that for me ,giving up even

natural sugars, along with dairy and grains have caused me to have die-off and I

am still there, but I do know that I will get better. God designed our bodies to

heal given the proper nutrients and supplements. Glad to hear you are feeling so

much better. Just out of curiosity, why did you not go with Bee's whole

approach? I have had some negative thoughts about some of the things she

believes, but her success stories seem so positive.

Thanks

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> Hi Chris! Just wanted to reply and say that yes, diet / lifestyle changes and

supplements have absolutely helped, if not eradicated my Lyme symptoms! I don't

follow Bee's exact candida diet but since reading her website a few months ago I

have followed the " common sense " approach of cutting out coffee, refined sugar,

any foods with chemicals (at least as much as possible) and eating far more

vegetables and whole grains and my symptoms have nearly gone! The sugar was the

most important thing to cut out, and I start to feel worse again if I start

eating it! The other important thing is breathing more deeply and slowly (this

almost completely eradicated my lifelong muscle pain- I wish I had developed

some more sense earlier!). Basically, if you create a less toxic environment for

the bacteria and preserve as many nutrients as you can instead of destroying

them with much of the unhealthy food we eat, the bacteria cannot thrive, and

your immune system is strengthened! There is no treatment as effective as the

immune system, which after all is designed to fight anything, as long as we keep

it in good order! I am strongly against long term drugs due to their toxicity

and the fact that in 99% of cases that I have heard about, they just make things

worse! I would love to write a longer post about my improvements on Lyme Aid or

Eurolyme but have got some aggressive / abusive responses in the past from

people who are not able to tolerate another point of view, so I try to stay away

from support groups now. Anyway, I believe we are all responsible for our own

health and we can keep Lyme bacteria under control, just like we do with all the

other bacteria we are carrying around all the time.. Just to be clear, this is

is not about finding a " cure " , as bacteria cannot be completely eradicated, just

controlled so that it does not affect us badly! I may not have been suffering

from the very worst case of Lyme, but I went from completely exhausted, head

fuzzy, bad concentration and memory, extremely painful muscles and generally

feeling awful all the time, to 99% normal in 3 months, from following some basic

logic with diet and lifestyle! I hope that has helped..? Best wishes and good

luck! Clara

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[Guest guest]

The link below will take you to Bee's website. Besides diet my lyme literate

doctor gave me the herbs cat's claw and venus fly trap. I worked up to 30 drops

4x daily alternating between the two. Diet and these herbs really seemed to give

my immune system a boost. I'm sorry for all your pain right now. Hope this info

helps.

Chris

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/

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> thank-you so much for responding. I was beginning to wonder if any-one would.

I believe diet plays a major part in all illnesses. The immune system has to be

weakened by something for an illness, even like Lymes, to cause major issues. I

guess what causes the weakened immune system is individual to each person, but I

do know diet plays a major part. I thought I was eating healthy, but something

this past fall caused me to feel really sick. It affected my muscles with a

strange weakness that left me feeling fluish. My alternative care doctor , who

is Lyme literate, believed I had Lymes, even though I never saw a tick bite and

never had a postitive test. I have through the years had fatigue, foggy

thinking, and the symptoms you described. It wasn't until I found bee's website

that I realized how similar candida and lymes symptoms are. My doctor gave me

very strong herbs that he said would cause die=off with any bacteria or fungi.

They must have worked for

> immediately I began having die-off symptoms.When reading bee's website I

realized candida could be being fed by even the raw dairy I had been eating and

properly prepared grains. I guess I then began to wonder about the candida Lymes

connection. If we have candida, very common in about 80% of people today, then

our immune system also suffers, and Lymes can take hold of us, along with other

things. I do know that for me ,giving up even natural sugars, along with dairy

and grains have caused me to have die-off and I am still there, but I do know

that I will get better. God designed our bodies to heal given the proper

nutrients and supplements. Glad to hear you are feeling so much better. Just out

of curiosity, why did you not go with Bee's whole approach? I have had some

negative thoughts about some of the things she believes, but her success stories

seem so positive.

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and supplements have absolutely helped, if not eradicated my Lyme symptoms! I

don't follow Bee's exact candida diet but since reading her website a few months

ago I have followed the " common sense " approach of cutting out coffee, refined

sugar, any foods with chemicals (at least as much as possible) and eating far

more vegetables and whole grains and my symptoms have nearly gone! The sugar was

the most important thing to cut out, and I start to feel worse again if I start

eating it! The other important thing is breathing more deeply and slowly (this

almost completely eradicated my lifelong muscle pain- I wish I had developed

some more sense earlier!). Basically, if you create a less toxic environment for

the bacteria and preserve as many nutrients as you can instead of destroying

them with much of the unhealthy food we eat, the bacteria cannot thrive, and

your immune system is

> strengthened! There is no treatment as effective as the immune system, which

after all is designed to fight anything, as long as we keep it in good order! I

am strongly against long term drugs due to their toxicity and the fact that in

99% of cases that I have heard about, they just make things worse! I would love

to write a longer post about my improvements on Lyme Aid or Eurolyme but have

got some aggressive / abusive responses in the past from people who are not able

to tolerate another point of view, so I try to stay away from support groups

now. Anyway, I believe we are all responsible for our own health and we can keep

Lyme bacteria under control, just like we do with all the other bacteria we are

carrying around all the time.. Just to be clear, this is is not about finding a

" cure " , as bacteria cannot be completely eradicated, just controlled so that it

does not affect us badly! I may not have been suffering from the very worst case

of Lyme, but

> I went from completely exhausted, head fuzzy, bad concentration and memory,

extremely painful muscles and generally feeling awful all the time, to 99%

normal in 3 months, from following some basic logic with diet and lifestyle! I

hope that has helped..? Best wishes and good luck! Clara

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[Guest guest]

Hi ! I just wanted to add to Chris's response about Bee's website- the

diet is great and has helped lots of people, but stress is really the biggest

cause of the immune system weakening, so no amount of herbs, supplements or diet

changes will help as much as trying to eliminate the stressful situation you are

in. Stress also raises your acidity levels, another thing that bacteria thrives

on. Is there any way you could have a trial seperation and stay with family for

a while or anything that gives you a chance to recuperate..? That, as well as

changing your diet and taking extra supplements could make a big difference!

One other thing, apparently 95% of us do not breathe properly (even children

by the age of 6 are often already shallow breathing due to stress) so try

taking several slow, relaxed, deep breaths in (through your nose) and out. My

favourite breathing exercise when I've been in severe pain, or very stressed, is

taking one long breath in to one count, and then very slowly out to 5. Make sure

you breathe out completely, as again, most people never do, causing stale air to

build up. Repeat a minimum of 5 times. You would be surprised how much a simple

thing like that can help, as many of us only ever take short, shallow breaths

which causes you to feel very tired and makes your muscles seize up.

I wish you the best of luck and do try to at least take a break, if you can't

get away from your home situation altogether, and see if the rest does you (and

maybe all of you) good! Abusive relationships are usually something that you

look back on in the future and can try to understand, but it's very important to

distance yourself to get a new perspective, and to give you a rest, whenever you

can! Good luck again! Best wishes, Elli

[Guest guest]

Hi , I just wanted to say, I think you said you are on the salt / vitamin

C diet..? Have you thought that maybe the extreme amounts of salt could be

causing you to feel very sick? Excess salt can damage / destroy your liver and

kidneys, both of which will cause nausea... Even small amounts of excess salt

can make you ill- I had too much salt last night and felt terrible, and was

still feeling sick when I woke up this morning! I would really warn you against

too much salt, garlic etc, as these things can be very harmful if taken in

excess! It is all very well to want to kill the Lyme bacteria, but you may be

doing yourself some serious harm in other ways!

It is not possible to kill all the Lyme bacteria you have (if you definitely

do have it), so the only real way to feel better seems to be to control it, just

like we do with all the bacteria we are carrying around. I always feel worse if

I start doing anything extreme, ie taking too many supplements, but fine if I

stick to a sensible diet of plenty of vegetables, no refined sugar / flour etc,

and try to reduce stress and sleep properly (not easy!!)

I think there must be a way our of your home situation somehow- Isn't there

an organization in your area that can help you? Make as many enquiries as

possible and I'm sure there will be help out there as there are so many people

in your situation and there are people whose job it is to help! Maybe even your

local doctor can suggest something..? Don't focus just on the Lyme, focus on

yourself and getting into a healthier situation where you can stop feeling so

stressed and give your system a chance to recover! In the meantime, try to be as

calm and rational as you can (do the deep breathing exercises I suggested!) as

your husband may be feeling out of his depth and not know how to relate to what

you are going through, and if you can explain it to him in a calm and detached

way he may be more inclined to listen and support you! Best wishes and good luck

again, Elli