Guest guest Posted June 10, 2001 Report Share Posted June 10, 2001 <Anyone using saccharomyces boulardii for candida?> I have never heard of this...could you tell me more about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2001 Report Share Posted June 11, 2001 Yeast is not necessarily bad for one with candida problem. Yeast itself does not feed candida. If someone has a problem with yeast is likely due to a concurrent leaky gut. KB > This link says that you should not take Saccharomyces boulardii > > if you have a yeast infection. Because it is a YEAST! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Elaine Far from an expert but I have a similar prob as is an almost constant eater!! Someone (I think Dr McCandless) once told me that most things can be given at " ideal " times but the fact is if you can't do it get it down then anyway/time you can!! I give J her probiotics about one/two hours after food to give the enzymes chance to have worked through the system a bit. I would also say yes to keeping the other probios as they will all give a good mix. HTH Jacqui > > Hi everyone, > > Looking for a bit of advice on saccharomyces boulardii. I received this > this morning (thank you Mandi) and now I am not sure when to give it and if > it will affect other antifungal meds. On the bottle it says on an empty > stomach. Rather difficult when it comes to . Al;so are you still > supposed to give other probiotics (CP1 and mindlinx). Can I continue with > yeast aid at the same time? As I am only giving it for 3 weeks (prior to > diflucan) then I could give it at lunch time (if food isn't a big issue) as > that would give it 3 hours before eats again. What do you think? > > Thanks Elaine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Geir, Do you think that it is important that it is given on an empty stomach? Elaine Re: saccharomyces boulardii Sacc boul is a yeast itself, a living organism, and could be given withanything except for antifungals, as they will also kill Sacc boulardii. Geir Flatabø Elaine.Rankin skrev: > --> > > Hi everyone, > > Looking for a bit of advice on saccharomyces boulardii. I received > this this morning (thank you Mandi) and now I am not sure when to give > it and if it will affect other antifungal meds. On the bottle it says > on an empty stomach. Rather difficult when it comes to . Al;so > are you still supposed to give other probiotics (CP1 and mindlinx). > Can I continue with yeast aid at the same time? As I am only giving it > for 3 weeks (prior to diflucan) then I could give it at lunch time (if > food isn’t a big issue) as that would give it 3 hours before > eats again. What do you think? > > Thanks Elaine > > > > DISCLAIMER > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical > advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably > qualified practitioner. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ! GROUPS LINKS > > * Visit your group " Autism Treatment > <Autism Treatment> " on the > web. > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 We give on empty stomach omce per day at night. I take it too now and I think it workls better on empty tummy but have done that more times then with food Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 We give on empty stomach omce per day at night. I take it too now and I think it workls better on empty tummy but have done that more times then with food Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 I don`t know enough of that, if the producer says so I guess the " best effect " would be that way, although as it is a living organism I`d guess it would do best when given together with some fermentable sugar like glucose, and perhaps yeast extract, or som fruit or vegetables... and also not together with other probiotics, as it also fights them.... Geir Flatabø Elaine.Rankin skrev: >Geir, >Do you think that it is important that it is given on an empty stomach? >Elaine > > Re: saccharomyces boulardii > >Sacc boul is a yeast itself, a living organism, and could be given >withanything except for >antifungals, as they will also kill Sacc boulardii. > >Geir Flatabø > >Elaine.Rankin skrev: > > > >>--> >> >>Hi everyone, >> >>Looking for a bit of advice on saccharomyces boulardii. I received >>this this morning (thank you Mandi) and now I am not sure when to give >>it and if it will affect other antifungal meds. On the bottle it says >>on an empty stomach. Rather difficult when it comes to . Al;so >>are you still supposed to give other probiotics (CP1 and mindlinx). >>Can I continue with yeast aid at the same time? As I am only giving it >>for 3 weeks (prior to diflucan) then I could give it at lunch time (if >>food isn’t a big issue) as that would give it 3 hours before >>eats again. What do you think? >> >>Thanks Elaine >> >> >> >>DISCLAIMER >>No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical >>advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably >>qualified practitioner. >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>! GROUPS LINKS >> >> * Visit your group " Autism Treatment >> <Autism Treatment> " on the >> web. >> * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2006 Report Share Posted April 20, 2006 Tom has sacc boulardi at about 3pm, 90 mins or so before food and 3 hours away from therbiotic. We don't give him a yeast treatment specifically (i.e. we use good yeast rather than yeast killer) > > Hi everyone, > > Looking for a bit of advice on saccharomyces boulardii. I received this > this morning (thank you Mandi) and now I am not sure when to give it and if > it will affect other antifungal meds. On the bottle it says on an empty > stomach. Rather difficult when it comes to . Al;so are you still > supposed to give other probiotics (CP1 and mindlinx). Can I continue with > yeast aid at the same time? As I am only giving it for 3 weeks (prior to > diflucan) then I could give it at lunch time (if food isn't a big issue) as > that would give it 3 hours before eats again. What do you think? > > Thanks Elaine > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 hi john s. boulardii is a yeast, used widely in france as an anti-candida treatment. its commonly heard of as " yeast against yeast " . here in this goup, we don't use it, preferring to stick the very healthy diet and the list of supplements recommended by bee, along with incorporating antifungals (such as pau d'arco, fresh garlic, oil of oregano or clove oil) once the diet is fully in place. that said, there are people & practicioners who recommend it, but i've never actually spoken to someone who has used it with success. i must have missed the c-diff question? hope that helps ~ suz > I was wondering if SACCHAROMYCES BOULARDII is any good for candida? > > Still waiting on a C-diff answer > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 > > I was wondering if SACCHAROMYCES BOULARDII is any good for candida? ==>No, Saccharomyces Boulardii could take advantage of an immune deficiency and cause a systemic infection. S. boulardii appears to be quite safe; no serious adverse effects have been found in any clinical trial. But one theoretical danger is that this yeast could take advantage of an immune deficiency and cause a systemic infection. Only two cases of this have been reported, out of perhaps more than a million people who have used the treatment since it was first used for diarrhea in the 1950s. Both were probably HIV- negative (neither had been tested, but neither was being treated for anything HIV related); both previously had serious intestinal problems which may have allowed the yeast to leave the intestine and enter the bloodstream. Both cases were successfully treated with amphotericin B, a powerful antifungal. Saccharomyces boulardii which reduces pathology due to C. difficile toxin in digestive tract. The Corthier group reported that S. boulardii protects against C. difficile induced diseases in a gnotobiotic mouse model. The yeast had no effect on C. difficile populations but reduced toxin production in the digestive tract. The Lamont J.T. group (USA) used another model: rat ligated loops inoculated with S. boulardii and C. difficile toxins. Treatment of rats with S. boulardii suspension reduced fluid secretion and mannitol permeability caused by toxin A. S. boulardii may reduce some of the enterotoxic effects of toxin A by inhibiting toxin A-receptor binding. A protease was purified from S. boulardii, it inhibits the intestinal effects of C. difficile toxin A. ==>With the candida program I recommend you do not need to be concerned about getting rid of toxins, and 95% of the good probiotics in the digestive tract are lactobacillus, not saccharomyces boulardii. > Still waiting on a C-diff answer ==> ? Sorry I missed it . Please re-post it for me. Thanks. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:41:17 -0000, you wrote: >I was wondering if SACCHAROMYCES BOULARDII is any good for candida? > >Still waiting on a C-diff answer > > > I have been using it " down under " the last few days with success. I'm not sure I'm brave enough to take it by mouth but I hope to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2007 Report Share Posted May 15, 2007 > > Have anybody heard of Saccharomyces Boulardii? > > I was told Candida overgrowth can often respond to a 1-3 month course of Saccharomyces boulardii. It's a probiotics & non-colonizing yeast species which is not related to the yeast group belonging to candida. It seems to be a friendly yeast that fights Candida and also releases IgA, which helps heal the lining of the gut. I was told by the nutricionist that it is less used than other probiotics and antifungals because of its high costs... > > Google it and find out for yourself. And, Bee, I would like to know your opinion about it... ==>, do not use Saccharomyces boulardii!! Saccharomyces Boulardii could take advantage of an immune deficiency and cause a systemic infection. But it is to early for you to start on probiotics in any case - it is Step 4 of my program. The high good fats on my program help heal the gut because they strengthen the intestines, kill candida and also heal it, i.e. butter and coconut oil. The best probiotics are cabbage rejuvelac and sauerkraut. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2007 Report Share Posted May 16, 2007 I won't! But... it's usualy prescribed when a person needs to take antibiotics. As for probiotics... is it a problem to take them on this stage of the treatment? Well I began to take a wide range of them (Vital 10) before I even know I had candida - and didn't stop... I have tried to make rejuvelac, but couldn't stand it - I was unsure about the taste, smell, etc... same thing with sauerkraut. It gets " moldy " very easily. In fact, I have never tasted " the real thing " before. I am trying to find someone who can teach me " live " . Be well, > > > > Have anybody heard of Saccharomyces Boulardii? > > > > I was told Candida overgrowth can often respond to a 1-3 month > course of Saccharomyces boulardii. It's a probiotics & non- colonizing > yeast species which is not related to the yeast group belonging to > candida. It seems to be a friendly yeast that fights Candida and also > releases IgA, which helps heal the lining of the gut. I was told by > the nutricionist that it is less used than other probiotics and > antifungals because of its high costs... > > > > Google it and find out for yourself. And, Bee, I would like to know > your opinion about it... > > ==>, do not use Saccharomyces boulardii!! Saccharomyces > Boulardii could take advantage of an immune deficiency and cause a > systemic infection. But it is to early for you to start on probiotics > in any case - it is Step 4 of my program. The high good fats on my > program help heal the gut because they strengthen the intestines, kill > candida and also heal it, i.e. butter and coconut oil. > > The best probiotics are cabbage rejuvelac and sauerkraut. > > Bee > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2007 Report Share Posted May 17, 2007 > > I won't! But... it's usualy prescribed when a person needs to take > antibiotics. > > As for probiotics... is it a problem to take them on this stage of > the treatment? Well I began to take a wide range of them (Vital 10) before I even know I had candida - and didn't stop... ==>You can continue to take them if you wish. The reason they are recommended as Step 4 in my program is because 1) they also kill off candida which can cause too much die-off early on, in addition to die- off caused by the diet and antifungals, 2) because your body cannot implant them in the gut until a lot of the candida is killed off so it's a waste of money. Sauerkraut and kimchi are different because they also aid digestion and provides many other benefits. > > I have tried to make rejuvelac, but couldn't stand it - I was unsure about the taste, smell, etc... same thing with sauerkraut. It > gets " moldy " very easily. In fact, I have never tasted " the real > thing " before. I am trying to find someone who can teach me " live " . ==>Good cabbage rejuvelac shouldn't be strong nor taste offensive. But some people don't like it so it can be mixed with broths or a good unpasteurized tomato juice to mask the taste. It is tricky to make it right - the recipe needs to be carefully followed. I've seen these problems with making it: 1) the cabbage is blended too long, 2) it hasn't been kept at " room temperature " and 3) the water wasn't right - it must be free-of chlorine (if you boil water 30 minutes it removes the chlorine). Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 > > Hi Bee I am doing much better now . I am having broth, beef,lettuce > (for some freshness)and lots of beef tallow. I had coconut oil > yesterday and today and had mild die off but not like the kind I get > when I eat onions and garlic. Strange huh? +++That's great ! > > Bee, what are your thoughts on saccharomyces boulardii? +++Saccharomyces Boulardii can take advantage of an immune deficiency and cause a systemic infection, so please don't ever take it. Besides, 95% of good bacteria are lactobacillus, which is high in cabbage rejuvelac and in good probiotic supplements. Of course taking probiotics is the last step of the program, and I believe they are very unimportant compared to nutrients that build up the immune system. I believe your body will create good bacteria when it gets more healthy, so taking probiotics may not be necessary at all. Luv, Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 > > > > Hi Bee I am doing much better now . I am having broth, beef,lettuce > > (for some freshness)and lots of beef tallow. I had coconut oil > > yesterday and today and had mild die off but not like the kind I > get > > when I eat onions and garlic. Strange huh? > > +++That's great ! > > > > Bee, what are your thoughts on saccharomyces boulardii? > > +++Saccharomyces Boulardii can take advantage of an immune > deficiency and cause a systemic infection, so please don't ever take > it. Besides, 95% of good bacteria are lactobacillus, which is high > in cabbage rejuvelac and in good probiotic supplements. > > Of course taking probiotics is the last step of the program, and I > believe they are very unimportant compared to nutrients that build up > the immune system. I believe your body will create good bacteria > when it gets more healthy, so taking probiotics may not be necessary > at all. > > Luv, Bee > Bee, When you say systemic infection from sac b could you explain what this means please best w Dudley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2009 Report Share Posted February 4, 2009 --- In , " dudley.smith89 " <> Bee, > When you say systemic infection from sac b could you explain what > this means please +++Hi Dudley. Please look it up what " systemic infection " means on the internet. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 On Mar 16, 2011, at 12:59 PM, rubyslipper14 wrote: > I couldn't find the Saccrocymines thingy (pretty sure I spelled it > wrong!). Saccharomyces boulardii. You'll not likely find it at a typical pharmacy. I get mine through vrp.com It's got the highest count I could find among every brand I checked. It's excellent, and pricey. Cheaper (and much lower dose brands) could be found at iherb.com or your natural food/health food store Saccharomyces boulardii is incredible. It really revived my digestive system. Deanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 yes, you have to ask for it as they keep it in the refrigerator.......need to be kept there ________________________________ From: christie brewer <camnchloe@...> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 10:31:23 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Saccharomyces boulardii  Walgreen's carries Florastor and it works great, just fyi Christie Lynn Mother of two beautiful girls, tree-hugger:) and animal lover Claremore, Oklahoma camnchloe@... " All that we are is a result of what we have thought " Buddha Signature powered by WiseStamp ________________________________ From: " bluesky@... " <bluesky@...> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 10:23:43 AM Subject: [ ] Saccharomyces boulardii On Mar 16, 2011, at 12:59 PM, rubyslipper14 wrote: > I couldn't find the Saccrocymines thingy (pretty sure I spelled it > wrong!). Saccharomyces boulardii. You'll not likely find it at a typical pharmacy. I get mine through vrp.com It's got the highest count I could find among every brand I checked. It's excellent, and pricey. Cheaper (and much lower dose brands) could be found at iherb.com or your natural food/health food store Saccharomyces boulardii is incredible. It really revived my digestive system. Deanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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