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Yeast is not necessarily bad for one with candida problem. Yeast

itself does not feed candida. If someone has a problem with yeast is

likely due to a concurrent leaky gut.

KB

> This link says that you should not take Saccharomyces boulardii

>

> if you have a yeast infection. Because it is a YEAST!

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Elaine

Far from an expert but I have a similar prob as is an almost

constant eater!! Someone (I think Dr McCandless) once told me that

most things can be given at " ideal " times but the fact is if you

can't do it get it down then anyway/time you can!! I give J her

probiotics about one/two hours after food to give the enzymes chance

to have worked through the system a bit. I would also say yes to

keeping the other probios as they will all give a good mix.

HTH

Jacqui

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> Looking for a bit of advice on saccharomyces boulardii. I

received this

> this morning (thank you Mandi) and now I am not sure when to give

it and if

> it will affect other antifungal meds. On the bottle it says on an

empty

> stomach. Rather difficult when it comes to . Al;so are

you still

> supposed to give other probiotics (CP1 and mindlinx). Can I

continue with

> yeast aid at the same time? As I am only giving it for 3 weeks

(prior to

> diflucan) then I could give it at lunch time (if food isn't a big

issue) as

> that would give it 3 hours before eats again. What do you

think?

>

> Thanks Elaine

>

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Geir,

Do you think that it is important that it is given on an empty stomach?

Elaine

Re: saccharomyces boulardii

Sacc boul is a yeast itself, a living organism, and could be given

withanything except for

antifungals, as they will also kill Sacc boulardii.

Geir Flatabø

Elaine.Rankin skrev:

> -->

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> Looking for a bit of advice on saccharomyces boulardii. I received

> this this morning (thank you Mandi) and now I am not sure when to give

> it and if it will affect other antifungal meds. On the bottle it says

> on an empty stomach. Rather difficult when it comes to . Al;so

> are you still supposed to give other probiotics (CP1 and mindlinx).

> Can I continue with yeast aid at the same time? As I am only giving it

> for 3 weeks (prior to diflucan) then I could give it at lunch time (if

> food isn’t a big issue) as that would give it 3 hours before

> eats again. What do you think?

>

> Thanks Elaine

>

>

>

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We give on empty stomach omce per day at night. I take it too now and I think it workls better on empty tummy but have done that more times then with food

Mandi x

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We give on empty stomach omce per day at night. I take it too now and I think it workls better on empty tummy but have done that more times then with food

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I don`t know enough of that, if the producer says so I guess the " best

effect " would be that way,

although as it is a living organism I`d guess it would do best when

given together with some fermentable sugar like glucose, and perhaps

yeast extract, or som fruit or vegetables...

and also not together with other probiotics,

as it also fights them....

Geir Flatabø

Elaine.Rankin skrev:

>Geir,

>Do you think that it is important that it is given on an empty stomach?

>Elaine

>

> Re: saccharomyces boulardii

>

>Sacc boul is a yeast itself, a living organism, and could be given

>withanything except for

>antifungals, as they will also kill Sacc boulardii.

>

>Geir Flatabø

>

>Elaine.Rankin skrev:

>

>

>

>>-->

>>

>>Hi everyone,

>>

>>Looking for a bit of advice on saccharomyces boulardii. I received

>>this this morning (thank you Mandi) and now I am not sure when to give

>>it and if it will affect other antifungal meds. On the bottle it says

>>on an empty stomach. Rather difficult when it comes to . Al;so

>>are you still supposed to give other probiotics (CP1 and mindlinx).

>>Can I continue with yeast aid at the same time? As I am only giving it

>>for 3 weeks (prior to diflucan) then I could give it at lunch time (if

>>food isn’t a big issue) as that would give it 3 hours before

>>eats again. What do you think?

>>

>>Thanks Elaine

>>

>>

>>

>>DISCLAIMER

>>No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical

>>advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably

>>qualified practitioner.

>>

>>

>>

>>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>! GROUPS LINKS

>>

>> * Visit your group " Autism Treatment

>> <Autism Treatment> " on the

>> web.

>> *

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Tom has sacc boulardi at about 3pm, 90 mins or so before food and 3

hours away from therbiotic. We don't give him a yeast treatment

specifically (i.e. we use good yeast rather than yeast killer)

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> Looking for a bit of advice on saccharomyces boulardii. I

received this

> this morning (thank you Mandi) and now I am not sure when to give

it and if

> it will affect other antifungal meds. On the bottle it says on an

empty

> stomach. Rather difficult when it comes to . Al;so are

you still

> supposed to give other probiotics (CP1 and mindlinx). Can I

continue with

> yeast aid at the same time? As I am only giving it for 3 weeks

(prior to

> diflucan) then I could give it at lunch time (if food isn't a big

issue) as

> that would give it 3 hours before eats again. What do you

think?

>

> Thanks Elaine

>

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hi john

s. boulardii is a yeast, used widely in france as an anti-candida

treatment. its commonly heard of as " yeast against yeast " .

here in this goup, we don't use it, preferring to stick the very

healthy diet and the list of supplements recommended by bee, along

with incorporating antifungals (such as pau d'arco, fresh garlic, oil

of oregano or clove oil) once the diet is fully in place.

that said, there are people & practicioners who recommend it, but

i've never actually spoken to someone who has used it with success.

i must have missed the c-diff question?

hope that helps ~ suz :)

> I was wondering if SACCHAROMYCES BOULARDII is any good for candida?

>

> Still waiting on a C-diff answer

>

>

>

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> I was wondering if SACCHAROMYCES BOULARDII is any good for candida?

==>No, Saccharomyces Boulardii could take advantage of an immune

deficiency and cause a systemic infection.

S. boulardii appears to be quite safe; no serious adverse effects

have been found in any clinical trial. But one theoretical danger is

that this yeast could take advantage of an immune deficiency and

cause a systemic infection. Only two cases of this have been

reported, out of perhaps more than a million people who have used the

treatment since it was first used for diarrhea in the 1950s. Both

were probably HIV- negative (neither had been tested, but neither was

being treated for anything HIV related); both previously had serious

intestinal problems which may have allowed the yeast to leave the

intestine and enter the bloodstream. Both cases were successfully

treated with amphotericin B, a powerful antifungal.

Saccharomyces boulardii which reduces pathology due to C. difficile

toxin in digestive tract. The Corthier group reported that S.

boulardii protects against C. difficile induced diseases in a

gnotobiotic mouse model. The yeast had no effect on C. difficile

populations but reduced toxin production in the digestive tract. The

Lamont J.T. group (USA) used another model: rat ligated loops

inoculated with S. boulardii and C. difficile toxins. Treatment of

rats with S. boulardii suspension reduced fluid secretion and

mannitol permeability caused by toxin A. S. boulardii may reduce some

of the enterotoxic effects of toxin A by inhibiting toxin A-receptor

binding. A protease was purified from S. boulardii, it inhibits the

intestinal effects of C. difficile toxin A.

==>With the candida program I recommend you do not need to be

concerned about getting rid of toxins, and 95% of the good probiotics

in the digestive tract are lactobacillus, not saccharomyces boulardii.

> Still waiting on a C-diff answer

==> ? Sorry I missed it . Please re-post it for me. Thanks.

Bee

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On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:41:17 -0000, you wrote:

>I was wondering if SACCHAROMYCES BOULARDII is any good for candida?

>

>Still waiting on a C-diff answer

>

>

>

I have been using it " down under " the last few days with success. I'm

not sure I'm brave enough to take it by mouth but I hope to.

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> Have anybody heard of Saccharomyces Boulardii?

>

> I was told Candida overgrowth can often respond to a 1-3 month

course of Saccharomyces boulardii. It's a probiotics & non-colonizing

yeast species which is not related to the yeast group belonging to

candida. It seems to be a friendly yeast that fights Candida and also

releases IgA, which helps heal the lining of the gut. I was told by

the nutricionist that it is less used than other probiotics and

antifungals because of its high costs...

>

> Google it and find out for yourself. And, Bee, I would like to know

your opinion about it...

==>, do not use Saccharomyces boulardii!! Saccharomyces

Boulardii could take advantage of an immune deficiency and cause a

systemic infection. But it is to early for you to start on probiotics

in any case - it is Step 4 of my program. The high good fats on my

program help heal the gut because they strengthen the intestines, kill

candida and also heal it, i.e. butter and coconut oil.

The best probiotics are cabbage rejuvelac and sauerkraut.

Bee

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I won't! But... it's usualy prescribed when a person needs to take

antibiotics.

As for probiotics... is it a problem to take them on this stage of

the treatment? Well I began to take a wide range of them (Vital 10)

before I even know I had candida - and didn't stop...

I have tried to make rejuvelac, but couldn't stand it - I was unsure

about the taste, smell, etc... same thing with sauerkraut. It

gets " moldy " very easily. In fact, I have never tasted " the real

thing " before. I am trying to find someone who can teach me " live " .

Be well,

> >

> > Have anybody heard of Saccharomyces Boulardii?

> >

> > I was told Candida overgrowth can often respond to a 1-3 month

> course of Saccharomyces boulardii. It's a probiotics & non-

colonizing

> yeast species which is not related to the yeast group belonging to

> candida. It seems to be a friendly yeast that fights Candida and

also

> releases IgA, which helps heal the lining of the gut. I was told

by

> the nutricionist that it is less used than other probiotics and

> antifungals because of its high costs...

> >

> > Google it and find out for yourself. And, Bee, I would like to

know

> your opinion about it...

>

> ==>, do not use Saccharomyces boulardii!! Saccharomyces

> Boulardii could take advantage of an immune deficiency and cause a

> systemic infection. But it is to early for you to start on

probiotics

> in any case - it is Step 4 of my program. The high good fats on

my

> program help heal the gut because they strengthen the intestines,

kill

> candida and also heal it, i.e. butter and coconut oil.

>

> The best probiotics are cabbage rejuvelac and sauerkraut.

>

> Bee

>

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> I won't! But... it's usualy prescribed when a person needs to take

> antibiotics.

>

> As for probiotics... is it a problem to take them on this stage of

> the treatment? Well I began to take a wide range of them (Vital

10) before I even know I had candida - and didn't stop...

==>You can continue to take them if you wish. The reason they are

recommended as Step 4 in my program is because 1) they also kill off

candida which can cause too much die-off early on, in addition to die-

off caused by the diet and antifungals, 2) because your body cannot

implant them in the gut until a lot of the candida is killed off so

it's a waste of money. Sauerkraut and kimchi are different because

they also aid digestion and provides many other benefits.

>

> I have tried to make rejuvelac, but couldn't stand it - I was

unsure about the taste, smell, etc... same thing with sauerkraut. It

> gets " moldy " very easily. In fact, I have never tasted " the real

> thing " before. I am trying to find someone who can teach me " live " .

==>Good cabbage rejuvelac shouldn't be strong nor taste offensive.

But some people don't like it so it can be mixed with broths or a

good unpasteurized tomato juice to mask the taste. It is tricky to

make it right - the recipe needs to be carefully followed. I've seen

these problems with making it: 1) the cabbage is blended too long,

2) it hasn't been kept at " room temperature " and 3) the water wasn't

right - it must be free-of chlorine (if you boil water 30 minutes it

removes the chlorine).

Bee

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> Hi Bee I am doing much better now . I am having broth, beef,lettuce

> (for some freshness)and lots of beef tallow. I had coconut oil

> yesterday and today and had mild die off but not like the kind I

get

> when I eat onions and garlic. Strange huh?

+++That's great !

>

> Bee, what are your thoughts on saccharomyces boulardii?

+++Saccharomyces Boulardii can take advantage of an immune

deficiency and cause a systemic infection, so please don't ever take

it. Besides, 95% of good bacteria are lactobacillus, which is high

in cabbage rejuvelac and in good probiotic supplements.

Of course taking probiotics is the last step of the program, and I

believe they are very unimportant compared to nutrients that build up

the immune system. I believe your body will create good bacteria

when it gets more healthy, so taking probiotics may not be necessary

at all.

Luv, Bee

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> >

> > Hi Bee I am doing much better now . I am having broth,

beef,lettuce

> > (for some freshness)and lots of beef tallow. I had coconut oil

> > yesterday and today and had mild die off but not like the kind I

> get

> > when I eat onions and garlic. Strange huh?

>

> +++That's great !

> >

> > Bee, what are your thoughts on saccharomyces boulardii?

>

> +++Saccharomyces Boulardii can take advantage of an immune

> deficiency and cause a systemic infection, so please don't ever

take

> it. Besides, 95% of good bacteria are lactobacillus, which is high

> in cabbage rejuvelac and in good probiotic supplements.

>

> Of course taking probiotics is the last step of the program, and I

> believe they are very unimportant compared to nutrients that build

up

> the immune system. I believe your body will create good bacteria

> when it gets more healthy, so taking probiotics may not be

necessary

> at all.

>

> Luv, Bee

>

Bee,

When you say systemic infection from sac b could you explain what

this means please

best w Dudley.

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--- In , " dudley.smith89 "

<> Bee,

> When you say systemic infection from sac b could you explain what

> this means please

+++Hi Dudley. Please look it up what " systemic infection " means on the

internet.

Bee

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On Mar 16, 2011, at 12:59 PM, rubyslipper14 wrote:

> I couldn't find the Saccrocymines thingy (pretty sure I spelled it

> wrong!).

Saccharomyces boulardii.

You'll not likely find it at a typical pharmacy.

I get mine through vrp.com It's got the highest count I could find

among every brand I checked. It's excellent, and pricey.

Cheaper (and much lower dose brands) could be found at iherb.com

or your natural food/health food store

Saccharomyces boulardii is incredible. It really revived my

digestive system.

Deanna

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yes, you have to ask for it as they keep it in the refrigerator.......need to be

kept there :)

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On Mar 16, 2011, at 12:59 PM, rubyslipper14 wrote:

> I couldn't find the Saccrocymines thingy (pretty sure I spelled it

> wrong!).

Saccharomyces boulardii.

You'll not likely find it at a typical pharmacy.

I get mine through vrp.com It's got the highest count I could find

among every brand I checked. It's excellent, and pricey.

Cheaper (and much lower dose brands) could be found at iherb.com

or your natural food/health food store

Saccharomyces boulardii is incredible. It really revived my

digestive system.

Deanna

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