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Here's some food for thought:

Last week the American Red Cross came through my unit asking for blood. At the

same time, the fourth in the six-shot series was being administered by my BAS

(Battalion Aid Station).

There was a Marine who had decided on giving blood. Also, he needed to get his

fourth Anthrax shot. " What to do? " he wondered. He called the Red Cross and

asked what to do. Their response: " Give blood before you get your anthrax

shot. " Now, why's that? I thought that the vaccine was safe. I guess they

know more than they're letting on.

King Lou

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In a message dated 10/22/1999 4:06:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

adams@... writes:

<< Hi, everyone! Does anyone know if giving blood at the local blood bank

will result in finding out your blood type? carol >>

Yes, it certainly will. And you can feel good about doing it, also. Betsy

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In a message dated 10/22/1999 4:06:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

adams@... writes:

<< Does anyone know if giving blood at the local blood bank will result in

finding out your blood type? >>

I think so. That is how I found out mine many years ago and how my son found

out his about 5 years ago.

Regards,

Sharon

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Hi, everyone! Does anyone know if giving blood at the local blood bank will

result in finding out your blood type? carol

<<Donate blood! Why?>>

Let me add my favorite. Donating blood is one of the rare few instances when

we can help another human being on a direct personal basis. All the research

money, personal wealth and influence in the universe cannot obtain a drop of

blood -- unless someone chooses to give it!

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In a message dated 10/22/1999 2:06:12 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

adams@... writes:

<< Hi, everyone! Does anyone know if giving blood at the local blood bank

will result in finding out your blood type? carol >>

When I did, I got a card with my name and blood type right on it.

Pam

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> Donating blood: in my opinion we shouldn't do it, but others

disagree.

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I personally agree with Marta. It's not that we CAN'T...It's more

that we SHOULDN'T...especially during the weightloss period.

During the weightloss period (and beyond)it is soooo easy to run

slightly low on many vitamin levels, iron levels and protein levels

that I don't think we need to Tax our system anymore than

necessary. And once low it can take alot of time to build back up.

You will find doctors who will say Ok to donating blood and some

that will say absolutely NOT...I am choosing to follow the

conservative safest path for me and not donate. (unless MY direct

donation would save a loved one.)

Jo

O neg.

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I think I will follow Marta's and your advice. That is what I was thinking.

Thanks for your help and advice,

in Wisconsin

Re: Blood Donations

> > Donating blood: in my opinion we shouldn't do it, but others

> disagree.

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> I personally agree with Marta. It's not that we CAN'T...It's more

> that we SHOULDN'T...especially during the weightloss period.

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> During the weightloss period (and beyond)it is soooo easy to run

> slightly low on many vitamin levels, iron levels and protein levels

> that I don't think we need to Tax our system anymore than

> necessary. And once low it can take alot of time to build back up.

>

> You will find doctors who will say Ok to donating blood and some

> that will say absolutely NOT...I am choosing to follow the

> conservative safest path for me and not donate. (unless MY direct

> donation would save a loved one.)

>

> Jo

> O neg.

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Now that is great advice Sassy, and one I hadn't heard before - but is pretty obvious now it has been said. I donated my own blood and no one mentioned that to me. I wasn't on anything that had to be stopped, but I wonder if the blood bank would have stopped me if I had, and would they be aware? >>> One would think they would have basic policy which covered all states... but then I guess an establishment is only as good as it's employees that actually follow the rules & know what ethics are. I only knew because I'm listed as an actual organ donor... and there are specifics with that too~ some countries (*I've not YET seen in US... allow THR patients to donate their implants to needy after their death even)

But with regards to autologous blood donation which is donating for your own surgery... I know there are ALOT fewer rules... because it's your blood returning TO YOU.... instead of to another. Some hospitals I do know will restrict blood if it's classified as "contaminated" such as you've been exposed to hepatitis B ect..... even if it's your own donation~ entering the hospital could "potential" be a risk to others in transit they'll refuse the blood being permitted on hospital grounds.

Regardless of whether you donate & actually need your own blood~ that donation could save lives just the same for another which might be in need. I think everyone should do it if they can. For those wanting more information check with the following if you can't the info from your actual doctors office.

American Red Cross~ guidelines

http://www.redcross.org/services/biomed/0,1082,0_557_,00.html

https://www.givelife.org/

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In a message dated 12/12/2006 12:44:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, SassyLouYou@... writes:

Some hospitals I do know will restrict blood if it's classified as "contaminated" such as you've been exposed to hepatitis B ect..... even if it's your own donation~ entering the hospital could "potential" be a risk to others in transit they'll refuse the blood being permitted on hospital grounds.

This is true and my daughter who works in a hospital lab told me the story as to why this is....seems that at some hospital here in the USA had 2 patients with the same name who each donated their own blood for a surgery...one of them had HIV....well the blood bank mixed up the blood and gave the wrong patient the HIV blood....OOPS!.....so now, a lot of hospitals (mine was one of them) will not accept your own blood if you have an infectious disease like HIV, Hepititis, etc....which seems silly.....if the workers would just do their jobs correctly, it should not ever happen!

Also, I was told if I don';t use my blood for the surgery, they dispose of it, they can't use it for anyone else....autologous donations are not screened the same way as for the general public....I did donate my own but didn't need it...

denise

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autologous donations are not screened the same way as for the general public.... I did donate my own but didn't need it... >>> you have to advise that you want your blood used by another should something happen you don't need it so full screening process can be done. If you fail to mention it... the blood will be disposed of which is a waste. There's not that much of a difference to it~ cept patient history comes more into play such as past needle drug using etc. can not donate~ The specifics are on the red cross page I posted.

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I just got a call from the red cross asking me to donate blood.

So I ask " what is the policy on Lyme disease " ?

I was told that " it is OK to donate as long as I'm not currently having any Lyme

symptoms " .

<cynical on>

Wow! I've been feeling pretty good after starting the IV. Guess I should head

on down and donate.

<cynical off>

I had contacted the red cross several time after finding out that I had long

term Lyme. I have asked that those who received my past blood donations be

notified that they may have received Lyme tainted blood. I spoke to a

supervisor once that seemed interested, but I do not believe they ever contacted

anyone.

I have told the red cross many times I have Lyme and it's not gone yet.

Yet I get a call every 2 months asking for my blood.

OK, maybe the caller's are just bone heads, but really.

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I had undiagnosed bartonella henselae for 14 years before I acquired lyme

disease. I had donated many times during that 14 years. When I was first

diagnosed with lyme, the blood bank told me the standard " you can donate when

you have no symptoms " as though I had a cold or the flu.

However, a few months later, the bartonella diagnosis reared its ugly head when

the lyme did not improve. I again called the blood bank and was actually

interviewed by the medical director. She took copies of all of my information

on the bartonella diagnosis. When I asked her if they would contact all of the

people who had received my bartonella infected blood the physician was very

evasive.

Since then, on this group or another lyme group, I have read that some

hospitals are insisting that the blood bank not take blood donations from anyone

who has ever had lyme. So, things are changing. It just takes the medical

professional awhile to respond.

Kathleen

After testing positive I explained that it would be important to contact all the

folks that received my blood and let them know they could have lyme. I've

probably donated 4-5 times total. The lady basically told me to call them back

when I was absolutely sure I had lyme and knew for how long. I don't think

anything has been done.

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None of this is any surprise to anybody who's read Randy Shilts's gripping

account of the early AIDS years, " And The Band Played On. " (Really. It's one of

the best reads ever -- I couldn't put it down.) The fights between the AIDS

researchers, who were becoming ever more certain that the disease was

blood-borne; and the blood bank managers, who were in obstinate denial that

their institutions were becoming a major vector in the spread of the disease,

are one of the epic storylines in the book.

Blood banks don't run on the precautionary principle, more's the pity. I wonder:

does anybody know what their stance is on syphilis? Because Lyme is a close

cousin, and if their polices ban people who've had syphilis, they certainly

should ban people with Lyme.

God, I hope I never have an operation that requires a transfusion. Given the

past history and current ignorance, I'm not at all sanguine (so to speak) about

their ability to keep infectious crap out of the blood supply.

On Apr 6, 2011, at 9:38 43AM, Diane Biel wrote:

> It was all over the news months ago how people with CFS should not donate at

> all........and they do not even have a positive test to take.......well, lyme

of

> course........that is when they get smart like me and finally figure it

> out.............lol

> I have not given blood since I became sick as a young adult........would never

> want anyone to suffer like this...........

> interesting that they would take my blood just by me saying I have lyme and

bart

> but I feel good today..........LOL

> but really not very funny...........pretty sad!! Diane

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> ________________________________

> From: KP <kmpelley@...>

>

> Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 11:29:25 AM

> Subject: [ ] Re: Blood donations

>

>

> I had undiagnosed bartonella henselae for 14 years before I acquired lyme

> disease. I had donated many times during that 14 years. When I was first

> diagnosed with lyme, the blood bank told me the standard " you can donate when

> you have no symptoms " as though I had a cold or the flu.

>

>

> However, a few months later, the bartonella diagnosis reared its ugly head

when

> the lyme did not improve. I again called the blood bank and was actually

> interviewed by the medical director. She took copies of all of my information

on

> the bartonella diagnosis. When I asked her if they would contact all of the

> people who had received my bartonella infected blood the physician was very

> evasive.

>

> Since then, on this group or another lyme group, I have read that some

> hospitals are insisting that the blood bank not take blood donations from

anyone

> who has ever had lyme. So, things are changing. It just takes the medical

> professional awhile to respond.

>

> Kathleen

>

> After testing positive I explained that it would be important to contact all

the

> folks that received my blood and let them know they could have lyme. I've

> probably donated 4-5 times total. The lady basically told me to call them back

> when I was absolutely sure I had lyme and knew for how long. I don't think

> anything has been done.

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Pray God they stop accepting blood containing tick borne disease. I know of

cases where a lymie was allowed to donate blood, to be used for newborns, simply

because they had cmv free blood.  I pray every day for those innocent babies

and anyone else given lyme family tainted blood products.  

> It was all over the news months ago how people with CFS should not donate at

> all........and they do not even have a positive test to take.......well, lyme

>of

>

> course........that is when they get smart like me and finally figure it

> out.............lol

> I have not given blood since I became sick as a young adult........would never

> want anyone to suffer like this...........

> interesting that they would take my blood just by me saying I have lyme and

>bart

>

> but I feel good today..........LOL

> but really not very funny...........pretty sad!! Diane

>

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> ________________________________

> From: KP <kmpelley@...>

>

> Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 11:29:25 AM

> Subject: [ ] Re: Blood donations

>

>

> I had undiagnosed bartonella henselae for 14 years before I acquired lyme

> disease. I had donated many times during that 14 years. When I was first

> diagnosed with lyme, the blood bank told me the standard " you can donate when

> you have no symptoms " as though I had a cold or the flu.

>

>

> However, a few months later, the bartonella diagnosis reared its ugly head

when

>

> the lyme did not improve. I again called the blood bank and was actually

> interviewed by the medical director. She took copies of all of my information

>on

>

> the bartonella diagnosis. When I asked her if they would contact all of the

> people who had received my bartonella infected blood the physician was very

> evasive.

>

> Since then, on this group or another lyme group, I have read that some

> hospitals are insisting that the blood bank not take blood donations from

>anyone

>

> who has ever had lyme. So, things are changing. It just takes the medical

> professional awhile to respond.

>

> Kathleen

>

> After testing positive I explained that it would be important to contact all

>the

>

> folks that received my blood and let them know they could have lyme. I've

> probably donated 4-5 times total. The lady basically told me to call them back

> when I was absolutely sure I had lyme and knew for how long. I don't think

> anything has been done.

>

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I cannot donate blood because I am covered in tattoos(despite negative Hep A, B,

and C they send me away) but what is interesting is I signed up to be a bone

marrow doner and they refused me. Did not say why, and at the time I never

followed up....now I wonder...

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> > It was all over the news months ago how people with CFS should not donate at

>

> > all........and they do not even have a positive test to take.......well,

lyme

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> >of

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> >

>

> > course........that is when they get smart like me and finally figure it

>

> > out.............lol

>

> > I have not given blood since I became sick as a young adult........would

never

>

>

>

> > want anyone to suffer like this...........

>

> > interesting that they would take my blood just by me saying I have lyme and

>

> >bart

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> >

>

> > but I feel good today..........LOL

>

> > but really not very funny...........pretty sad!! Diane

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> > ________________________________

>

> > From: KP <kmpelley@...>

>

> >

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> > Sent: Wed, April 6, 2011 11:29:25 AM

>

> > Subject: [ ] Re: Blood donations

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > I had undiagnosed bartonella henselae for 14 years before I acquired lyme

>

> > disease. I had donated many times during that 14 years. When I was first

>

> > diagnosed with lyme, the blood bank told me the standard " you can donate

when

>

> > you have no symptoms " as though I had a cold or the flu.

>

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>

> >

>

> > However, a few months later, the bartonella diagnosis reared its ugly head

when

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> >

>

> > the lyme did not improve. I again called the blood bank and was actually

>

> > interviewed by the medical director. She took copies of all of my

information

>

> >on

>

> >

>

> > the bartonella diagnosis. When I asked her if they would contact all of the

>

> > people who had received my bartonella infected blood the physician was very

>

> > evasive.

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> > Since then, on this group or another lyme group, I have read that some

>

> > hospitals are insisting that the blood bank not take blood donations from

>

> >anyone

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> >

>

> > who has ever had lyme. So, things are changing. It just takes the medical

>

> > professional awhile to respond.

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> > Kathleen

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> > After testing positive I explained that it would be important to contact all

>

> >the

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> > folks that received my blood and let them know they could have lyme. I've

>

> > probably donated 4-5 times total. The lady basically told me to call them

back

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> > when I was absolutely sure I had lyme and knew for how long. I don't think

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> > anything has been done.

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