Food

February 21, 2007

second week I was told was sposta be stage one and on day 11 I tried egg salad.

Flo gave me the tip that held me through awful days when my stomach was not

ready for soft foods and that was Edy's fruit bars.

Barbara

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February 22, 2007

I have a line in my contact letter that says that I think the physical

limitations caused by the MGB are one of the best benefits. I never did have

very strong willpower before. I was a sneak eater-- but not any more!

:-) Kathy in VA

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From: " Lea Conner " <leaconner1971@...>

Kathy,

I have dreams about my mother's homemade bread. It was so good, but

I'll tell you, I will probably never have it again. (This isn't a bad

thing, as a loaf of her sheepherder's bread -- made in a cast iron

Dutch oven -- has a whole stick of butter in it!)

The MGB gives you mandatory willpower: While anyone can say nothing

tastes as good as being thin feels, that doesn't necessarily play out

when confronted with temptation. But, with the MGB, if you eat

something that you shouldn't, you're feeling like crap immediately.

As far as the Lactaid goes, I've started taking it with every meal.

(Most food has some kind of milk product anyway.) Sure it's a bit of a

cost, but I'm not having trouble with gas anymore.

Lea

>

> Lea-- you and I sound about exactly the same! I haven't tried

Lactaid though. I really miss cottage cheese so I might give it a try.

Eggs have been no problem, but I usually eat mine over easy. Scrambled

for some reason doesn't go down as easily.

>

> I agree with your sentiments-- I don't miss anything as much as I

DON " T miss the 90-some pounds I've lost. <BIG SMILE>

>

> :-) Kathy in VA

> 7/6/06

> 297/202

June 26, 2008

Hi ,

I recently have done the same thing. I found I also have the wheat allergy. I

have been 100 percent better since going gluten free. I believe I have had the

allergy my whole life and that it probably contributed to my arthritis.

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June 27, 2008

I also tried the wheat and gluten-free diet since I have a wheat

allergy, but didn't really notice any improvement in my joints

(although it did help with my stomach issues a bit)---which is too bad,

because I was hoping it would be an easy fix!

~

July 3, 2008

Sorry, I'm a lurker (for my 21-y.o. son, dg Reiter's at age 10;

symptoms were hip inflammation started age 3 several times a yr;

urethritis cropped up age 10, became the major symptom since then,

plus

digestive issues set in at age 16...)-- haven't been online for

awhile.

Just wanted to say, my son had been soothing his stomach w/warm milk

at night until one night a few mos. ago, he realized night-long

stomach

issues occurred even when he had nothing in tummy but milk..

started

next day drinking Lactaid instead & found immediate relief from a

chronic digestive problem that had been going on 3 yrs.

We're not convinced he has or ever had bona fide lactose

intolerance,

but no question eliminating the lactic acid from his milk made a

huge &

immediate difference. He also now takes lactaid pills whenever

ingesting ice cream. Cheese & yogurt, no problem.

Reading this thread has made me think we might want to try going to

spelt bread & taking other anti-wheat measures. My middle son had

pains & issues when growing that made me think he had wheat allergy,

so

we have spent a few years on that route as well. Our experience

was:

the wheat-based pasta is pathetic (esp. if you're Italian as we

are),

but the spelt bread is not bad, & as someone mentioned, Trader Joe's

can help you with shopping lists of gluten-free foods.

ANOTHER THOUGHT: my sister has Reiter's Syndrome also (incurred 5

yrs ago within 24 hrs after her 10th annual flu shot...) Anyway.

Long before she had Reiters-- this is a person with a lot of

allergies-- she thought she was becoming alcoholic (!) & eventually

thro trial & error found she was overly sensitive to wheat and also

hops. Clearly these things are connected in some way not yet

understood by the medical community.

For anyone who is trying to make their way through the maze of food

allergy, I have always found this author extremely helpful: the

late Dr Stuart M Berger. His book, the Immune Power Diet was

extremely helpful when we were raising kids who were allergy-prone &

preferred vegetarian diets-- we had to make a lot of difficult food

choices, & his books helped.

Best of luck, everyone!

July 4, 2008

I'm not sure if this is applicable, but I thought I would share my

experience as well. I have only been diagnosed this year however I've

had problems throughout my life. Even though my symptoms were not full

blown like they have been the past year, I know I have never felt

better than when I've been on the Atkins diet in the past. (Actually

eating peanut butter from the big salmonella recall last year is how my

Reiters was triggered unfortunately) In the Atkins book, people would

talk about side effects such as constipation, insomnia, tiredness, and

weakness, and for me, I slept better, had more energy, and my lifelong

constipation (even as a child) was resolved. It's a hard diet to

follow long term, (especially if you are like me and don't enjoy big

chunks of meat) but I've just restarted this diet in the past 2 weeks,

have lost 7 pounds, and my ankle tendon pain has markedly subsided. I

just wish I would have tried this 6 months ago when I was force feeding

myself a poptart (50 carbs and lots of JUNK) so I could take my anti-

inflammatories without throwing up every morning. The diet eliminates

all wheat (no bread, pasta, or starches at all) which would support

what you all have said above.

July 5, 2008

> Our experience was: the wheat-based pasta is pathetic (esp. if

> you're Italian as we are), but the spelt bread is not bad, & as

> someone mentioned, Trader Joe's can help you with shopping lists of

> gluten-free foods.

You have to be careful though, spelt is NOT gluten-free. It is closely

related to wheat, and while some people that are wheat intolerant can

handle spelt, others cannot. Spelt is not okay for someone diagnosed

with Celiac Disease (gluten intolerance):

http://www.celiaccentral.org/Research/Research_News/Celiac_Disease_Resea

rch_News/130/pg__1/vobId__177/

The key to finding good wheat free pasta is finding a good brand. A lot

of the rice-based ones come out mushy and gross, but Tinkyada brand

actually comes out very nicely. It may not be perfectly " al dente " when

it cooks, but it tastes like regular pasta so that's good enough for

me.

~

July 5, 2008

Seska, thanks for the input on spelt bread, I'd forgotten it was

only " low-gluten " .

Brandnewday that info on the Atkins diet is intriguing! I have a

close friend who has multiple health problems (many allergies,

bipolar, scoliosis, heart murmur/valve issues). Her husband has had

2 bouts of uveitis which make me wonder if he has Reiter's; as you

can imagine both kids have inherited all sorts of odd health

problems. Your post reminded me that for years the family would save

up their pennies and take an " Atkins cruise " out of Florida

periodically, and they would try to get on the Atkins diet as a

family for a disciplined period every year. All of them found

relief from various issues when on Atkins.

Interestingly this family's allergy problems seemed to be a function

of the environment in the northeast. When they relocated to Florida

a few yrs ago, all their environmental allergies (plants etc)

disappeared, and that seemed to help food allergies & other health

issues settle to a low roar. Clearly, if you can address a chunk of

your allergies, that lowers your daily immune response, which should

help lower your immune responses on the disease front as well.

Bethree5

July 5, 2008

Try the corn based pasta, it isn't mushy and I cooked it for a few people and no

one knew the difference.

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July 10, 2008

Hey Beth and Everyone!

I thought it was fascinating too. I'm still on Atkins gung-ho and

hope to stay on it as long as I possibly can. With the exception of

Sulfsalazine, I am 100% medication free and have completely STOPPED

taking the anti-inflamatories that had more side effects than benefit

for me. I never have, and still don't really consider myself to have

food allergies, but maybe I should rethink that idea. What I do know

is that ridding myself of carbs and sugar makes a positive change in

my health before and after knowing that I have Reiters. Do I still

have pain and stiffness every time I move....YES, unfortunately. I

probably will forever. But once I get going, there are times in my

day when I forget that I have a problem and that's hard to believe

after last January when I was to the point that I requested my

husband to get me crutches if he ever wanted me to get out of bed. Is

this all because of a diet change. No, of course not. But it's just

one more thing that's helping and as much as I want a donut, or some

nice crusty garlic cheesebread, or large cone from DQ, not a bite

will cross these lips!! (Plus, I want to drop the weight that I

gained sitting around in misery all last winter!)

Genie

September 20, 2008

Hi,

I can't help with food idea's because I haven't had anything done yet, but I am a am pretty good to talk with and vet. Go for it.

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September 20, 2008

Talk away... I am all ears....

I was sleeved on Aug 5th by Dr A.

I agree head hunger was and still is, I think I could safely say, mental abuse on myself! I was SOOOOOoooo hungry I wanted to eat cat food!

My boyfriend would bring home fast food and I knew I couldn't eat anything .. so I said ...'just let me lick the chicken strips' It was that bad.

Noooo I never did eat cat food or lick the chicken strips, but boy I sure wanted to. I never did the pudding and only ate about 1/2 a cup of the jello cups... I can't do sweets anymore..... I bought Jell-O n pudding for the post op phases but didn't eat them ..... I just lived on protein shakes, water, Gatorade, & chicken broth. I didn't feel like eating, and wasn't very hungry.

I'm still learning everyday about things I can and can NOT eat, and how much of what, and where the stopping point is, b4 its too late.

Robyn in CO sleeved 08/05/08

301 lbs. time high*

298 lbs decision time*

288 *pre op*

257 *current*

food

Hi all,First a BIG THANKS TO DR A and staff!!I was sleeved 3 weeks and 2 days ago and am down 21 pounds! I just wish I could get over thie head hungry. My problem is I want meat not jello,pudding,yogert or chicken soup. Anyone have any food idles? I really need a friend to have alot of heart to heart with, just have alot of issues I need to vent (not weight related), If you you got a bit of time and strong shoulders please write.

September 20, 2008

I just feel that I gave up the only thing that loved me and I enjoyed each and every time I ate , I have a great 17 old girl with her head on and doing fab at school. My 14 year old son is another thing! I say black he will say white. And I have been married 25 and I can say there is really nothing left of it. I wanted to hear him say he loved me no matter what size I was .So I did this by say a co-worker said 'he would rather have a dead wife then a fat wife and all i got was don't pin this on me you want the surgery.I truly wish I had left him years ago. Some of the most important thing to he he could care less and does not even try. So I feel pretty lonely and sad, I can't tell I have lost weight but the scale says about 20 .pounds. Well thats enought for tonight

'

Thanks Gay

From: Robyn Boothe <roboothe@...>Subject: Re: food Date: Saturday, September 20, 2008, 10:09 PM

Talk away... I am all ears....

I was sleeved on Aug 5th by Dr A.

I agree head hunger was and still is, I think I could safely say, mental abuse on myself! I was SOOOOOoooo hungry I wanted to eat cat food!

My boyfriend would bring home fast food and I knew I couldn't eat anything .. so I said ...'just let me lick the chicken strips' It was that bad.

Noooo I never did eat cat food or lick the chicken strips, but boy I sure wanted to. I never did the pudding and only ate about 1/2 a cup of the jello cups... I can't do sweets anymore..... I bought Jell-O n pudding for the post op phases but didn't eat them ..... I just lived on protein shakes, water, Gatorade, & chicken broth. I didn't feel like eating, and wasn't very hungry.

I'm still learning everyday about things I can and can NOT eat, and how much of what, and where the stopping point is, b4 its too late.

Robyn in CO sleeved 08/05/08

301 lbs. time high*

298 lbs decision time*

288 *pre op*

257 *current*

[Dr-Aceves-bandster s] food

Hi all,First a BIG THANKS TO DR A and staff!!I was sleeved 3 weeks and 2 days ago and am down 21 pounds! I just wish I could get over thie head hungry. My problem is I want meat not jello,pudding, yogert or chicken soup. Anyone have any food idles? I really need a friend to have alot of heart to heart with, just have alot of issues I need to vent (not weight related), If you you got a bit of time and strong shoulders please write.

September 21, 2008

I will hoping to get the sleeve soon(self pay), but i have decided on

the sleeve after months of trying to decide between the band, sleeve or

mgb. Ive been reading all the posts daily and have really beenn keeping

up with things. You all recently talked about the food and head hunger

and i guess until i get sleeved i blame my hunger on my belly, lol. I

am getting over a really bad stomach flu/bug and with the nausenas,bad

stomach ache, diarhea, acid reflux(mind u i have never had this in my

life, and i wasnt even eating). I can now say i know what you mean by

head hunger........because as i was feeling better my stomach was not

yet ready for food but i was so craving food even though i wasnt really

hungy. just wanted to throw that in there,,was weird i really couldnt

relate then bam i relate...funny how that works lol

September 21, 2008

Gay,

You gave up not the only thing that loved you, but the only thing that

helped you cope with whatever was going on of bad. Since it is no

longer there, now you need to deal with whatever is good. Find all the

things you love most and focus on them. Bottom line: focus on YOU.

When you feel strong enough without food, do whatever you feel is best

for YOU. Leave that husband, get a boyfriend, go for whatever YOU

deserve. Because you do deserve happiness. All of us do. People were

born to be happy. Everything else is just bull... and a husband who is

not there for you is better to be very far away. Your children are not

babies anymore.

Go girl! Focus on YOURSELF. YOU deserve it!

>

> I just feel that I gave up the only thing that loved me and I

enjoyed each and every time I ate , I have a great 17 old

girl with her head on and doing fab at school. My 14 year old son is

another thing! I say black he will say white. And I have been married

25 and I can say there is really nothing left of it. I wanted to hear

him say he loved me no matter what size I was .So I did this by say a

co-worker said 'he would rather have a dead wife then a fat wife and

all i got was don't pin this on me you want the surgery.I truly wish I

had left him years ago. Some of the most important thing to he he

could care less and does not even try. So I feel pretty lonely and

sad, I can't tell I have lost weight but the scale says about 20

..pounds. Well thats enought for tonight '

> Thanks Gay

>

> From: Robyn Boothe <roboothe@...>

> Subject: Re: food

>

> Date: Saturday, September 20, 2008, 10:09 PM

>

> Talk away... I am all ears....

> I was sleeved on Aug 5th by Dr A.

> I agree head hunger was and still is, I think I could safely say,

mental abuse on myself! I was SOOOOOoooo hungry I wanted to eat cat food!

> My boyfriend would bring home fast food and I knew I couldn't eat

anything .. so I said ...'just let me lick the chicken strips' It was

that bad.

> Noooo I never did eat cat food or lick the chicken strips, but boy I

sure wanted to. I never did the pudding and only ate about 1/2 a cup

of the jello cups... I can't do sweets anymore..... I bought Jell-O n

pudding for the post op phases but didn't eat them ..... I just lived

on protein shakes, water, Gatorade, & chicken broth. I didn't feel

like eating, and wasn't very hungry.

>

> I'm still learning everyday about things I can and can NOT eat, and

how much of what, and where the stopping point is, b4 its too late.

>

> Robyn in CO sleeved 08/05/08

> 301 lbs. time high*

> 298 lbs decision time*

> 288 *pre op*

> 257 *current*

>

> [Dr-Aceves-bandster s] food

>

> Hi all,

> First a BIG THANKS TO DR A and staff!!

>

> I was sleeved 3 weeks and 2 days ago and am down 21 pounds! I just wish

> I could get over thie head hungry. My problem is I want meat not

> jello,pudding, yogert or chicken soup. Anyone have any food idles? I

> really need a friend to have alot of heart to heart with, just have

> alot of issues I need to vent (not weight related), If you you got a

> bit of time and strong shoulders please write.

>

September 21, 2008

hi gay u need to email me-i can really relate to what you r saying cindy

Re: food

Date: Saturday, September 20, 2008, 10:09 PM

Talk away... I am all ears....

I was sleeved on Aug 5th by Dr A.

I agree head hunger was and still is, I think I could safely say, mental abuse

on myself! I was SOOOOOoooo hungry I wanted to eat cat food!

My boyfriend would bring home fast food and I knew I couldn't eat anything .. so

I said ...'just let me lick the chicken strips' It was that bad.

Noooo I never did eat cat food or lick the chicken strips, but boy I sure wanted

to. I never did the pudding and only ate about 1/2 a cup of the jello cups... I

can't do sweets anymore..... I bought Jell-O n pudding for the post op phases

but didn't eat them ..... I just lived on protein shakes, water, Gatorade,

& chicken broth. I didn't feel like eating, and wasn't very hungry.

I'm still learning everyday about things I can and can NOT eat, and how much of

what, and where the stopping point is, b4 its too late.

Robyn in CO sleeved 08/05/08

301 lbs. time high*

298 lbs decision time*

288 *pre op*

257 *current*

[Dr-Aceves-bandster s] food

Hi all,

First a BIG THANKS TO DR A and staff!!

I was sleeved 3 weeks and 2 days ago and am down 21 pounds! I just wish

I could get over thie head hungry. My problem is I want meat not

jello,pudding, yogert or chicken soup. Anyone have any food idles? I

really need a friend to have alot of heart to heart with, just have

alot of issues I need to vent (not weight related), If you you got a

bit of time and strong shoulders please write.

September 21, 2008

Hi Gay...

What you are going through is normal, some refer to it as buyer's

remorse. It really is normal and a natural feeling after WLS.

When I had my first surgery (band) I was soooo tempted to call Nina to

schedule a band removal. I hated it. It's normal, I think most of us

go through this. I didn't know at the time it was normal and to be

expected, I thought I was just weird. Once I realized it was

perfectly normal many of the bad feelings went away on their own.

This time frame really kinda sucks, you are on a post op diet and

let's be realistic here, it's hard to do the post op diet, the diet

sucks big time, everyone around you is enjoying food that you want and

can't have and sometimes that causes a bit of resentment. We all

kinda get moody during those times and simply having WLS is hard

enough without all the bizarre emotions that go with surgery.

Who is your patient coordinator, Nina? Call your patient coordinator

and see if they have any suggestions for you. Support with Dr. A and

team does not end at the day of discharge from Almater. Maybe a

little med therapy might be beneficial. What about Gaby? She's a

fantastic source of help and remember - she's a PhD (Psychologist).

She's helped me through a few issues. Sometimes just knowing that what

you are experiencing is typical, normal, and knowing it will pass

makes all the difference in the world.

>

> Hi all,

> First a BIG THANKS TO DR A and staff!!

>

> I was sleeved 3 weeks and 2 days ago and am down 21 pounds! I just wish

> I could get over thie head hungry. My problem is I want meat not

> jello,pudding,yogert or chicken soup. Anyone have any food idles? I

> really need a friend to have alot of heart to heart with, just have

> alot of issues I need to vent (not weight related), If you you got a

> bit of time and strong shoulders please write.

>

September 21, 2008

He Gay,

It is time that you took care of Gay. For the 25 years of your married life you took care of everyone else, but yourself. When you feel good about you then you will be on the right track--sometimes it take a little while. Don't give away YOUR power to a man who doesn't deserve you. I would suggest that you write in a journal every night all the anger and hurt feelings you have about him and anything else that is on your mind as you write. You ex-husband is never going to hear what you want him to hear--it took me many years to figure that one out, but witting it down in a journal gives you some validation to just who you are and a voice. This journal is just for your eyes only and it really does help get rid of the anger and feeling of being used. I have been where you were after 22 years of marriage and had to kids to raise when I booted him out after finding him with his girlfriend. Keep talking to people who make you feel good and that you trust. A little counseling might make you feel better or a support group--consider it. But stick to the the new lifestyle you are doing now and don't let anyone or anything stop you. Keep talking to us. It honestly took me almost two years to really feel good about myself. Now many years later I am going to take on the weight issue.

Hugs,

Suzanne

In a message dated 9/21/2008 6:22:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, gdwh1@... writes:

I just feel that I gave up the only thing that loved me and I enjoyed each and every time I ate , I have a great 17 old girl with her head on and doing fab at school. My 14 year old son is another thing! I say black he will say white. And I have been married 25 and I can say there is really nothing left of it. I wanted to hear him say he loved me no matter what size I was .So I did this by say a co-worker said 'he would rather have a dead wife then a fat wife and all i got was don't pin this on me you want the surgery.I truly wish I had left him years ago. Some of the most important thing to he he could care less and does not even try. So I feel pretty lonely and sad, I can't tell I have lost weight but the scale says about 20 .pounds. Well thats enought for tonight '

Thanks Gay

From: Robyn Boothe <roboothekci (DOT) net>Subject: Re: food Date: Saturday, September 20, 2008, 10:09 PM

Talk away... I am all ears....

I was sleeved on Aug 5th by Dr A.

I agree head hunger was and still is, I think I could safely say, mental abuse on myself! I was SOOOOOoooo hungry I wanted to eat cat food!

My boyfriend would bring home fast food and I knew I couldn't eat anything .. so I said ...'just let me lick the chicken strips' It was that bad.

Noooo I never did eat cat food or lick the chicken strips, but boy I sure wanted to. I never did the pudding and only ate about 1/2 a cup of the jello cups... I can't do sweets anymore..... I bought Jell-O n pudding for the post op phases but didn't eat them ..... I just lived on protein shakes, water, Gatorade, & chicken broth. I didn't feel like eating, and wasn't very hungry.

I'm still learning everyday about things I can and can NOT eat, and how much of what, and where the stopping point is, b4 its too late.

Robyn in CO sleeved 08/05/08

301 lbs. time high*

298 lbs decision time*

288 *pre op*

257 *current*

[Dr-Aceves-bandster s] food

Hi all,First a BIG THANKS TO DR A and staff!!I was sleeved 3 weeks and 2 days ago and am down 21 pounds! I just wish I could get over thie head hungry. My problem is I want meat not jello,pudding, yogert or chicken soup. Anyone have any food idles? I really need a friend to have alot of heart to heart with, just have alot of issues I need to vent (not weight related), If you you got a bit of time and strong shoulders please write. Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.

January 21, 2009

, i completly agree with your bread assessment!!! anything dry seems to

work better, it really makes no sense!! I have no trouble with things that are

dry and crunchy, very strange!! from Mass

----- michelle wrote:

>

there have been several posts on foods that work/foods that don't.

> If you're having trouble with bread, try toast. Worked for me.

> Bread got too gooey/sticky after being chewed. I still don't do well

> with soft white, I do much better with grainy/chewy breads.

> After my -ectomy, I would make toast with just a thin layer of peanut

> butter - good protein and went down much better than plain bread.

>

> hope that helps!

>

> - in NC

>

April 1, 2009

lol...well,you are funny thats for sure i know how the sweets go,man!!!

i love hershey kisses i put them in the freezer,their good frozen,havent

bought any in awhile.

so,if we cut out sugar,this would be a good thing? i know wat you mean with the

juices,i drink them and try to go as natural as possible and you cant get away

from sugar,its everywhere. i dont do soda anymore and i wasnt a splurger of it

either but i did love my pepsi and a cigg when i quit smokin,i uncontiously

stopped a few other things! before i found out about the hep i drank some beers

on the wk-end and liked a bloody marys here and there but for the obvious

reasons,i dont do that anymore,actually i pretty much cut my drinking 5 months

ago when i quit smokin,one is no good without thee other!!!

From: bob Larson <bobList@...>

Subject: food

Hepatitis C

Date: Wednesday, April 1, 2009, 9:46 PM

sorry about that, ms.jones. i will have a puff for you - but i don't inhale

- really.

how much protein varies with individuals. i don't know if there's really

one certain answer. it might be that the worst things about meats are they

way they're raised and processed which fills them with toxins.

i think if you cut out red meat, replacing it with other sources carefully

considered, but still crave it maybe you should eat a little. i sometimes

but rarely eat some beef somewhere out, but for red meat only buy buffalo

because it's free of all the veterinary drugs the cows are dosed with... i

can afford it ground, but would like to try a steak some day. i make a

couple burgers from a pound pkg and cook the rest into soup or sauces,

freezing some. that'll last me a week with some stashed in the freezer for

later. fill in days with some poultry, fish or shrimp. i do like fat...

you'd never know to look at me... but i try to restrict that to real butter,

organic eggs, and sesame and olive oils.

i indulge in sugar when the woman upstairs makes something tasty, but

otherwise only get it from fruits/juices. i mostly avoid the processed

foods with stuff like corn syrup or sugar. i do have a sweet tooth, so i

try to keep it at bay with good sweets with food value only. a wallpaper

customer had these damned Harry & chocolate almond truffles sitting

out last week... i'm surprised i didn't get some bad feedback for how few i

left for him.

> RE: Fw: ache and muscle pains

>

> now bob,you got me jonesing over here,i quit smokin 5 months

> ago,and cant believe i havent lit one up even after my hep

> news,have a puff for me

>

> hey,how much protien is to much and is 1 teaspoon of sugar a

> day to much? plus,is it best to avoid meat totally?

>

April 1, 2009