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The reason I asked is that I live 100 km west of Toronto. It sounds as if you

have good medical help and that's a blessing. I find record keeping comes and

goes as my thyroid replacement levels come and go. But I try to make a note and

put a date on it if I don't feel like doing anything at the time. Later on I

can document things...This has helped me with my doctor.

I also have depression and see a shrink for it. I have osteoporosis. I am just

recovering from a fall that left me with a damaged ligament in my right hand

(I'm a righty) and also from rotator cuff surgery. My heart did not slow down

when I took RAI so I've ended up on beta blockers. I don't work either. It

seems that we have a few things in common. I expect a lot of other people with

thyroid disease are about the same.

I was just curious where you lived...

Kate

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Hi Kate:

I live about 50 miles east of Toronto so although we have decent endos here I

always do have the option of sourcing others in the big city. I am quite pleased

with the one I have at the moment so unless things change drastically I will

stay here in town. I am disabled from another issue ( severe scoliosis ) and my

income at present doesn't allow me to have my car on the road so going into

Toronto is a tad difficult right now.

I started keeping records of how I felt for my back trouble but have found it

good for the thyroid too it is so hard to remember everything when you actually

get in front of the Dr. It helps too when you have ore than one health issue as

I do lol I see my regular GP and the endo, my back drs and a shrink for my

depression and now need to see a hand surgeon for carpal tunnel and a trigger

finger - it never ends. I am just glad I live in a country that has national

health care system since I am not working don't have any benefits so I have to

rely on the normal system.

Please feel free to keep in touch as I think it is also really helpful to be

in touch with others who have the same problems.

Take care

PS

Where do you live?

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I had an L4/5 fusion several years ago, and didn't feel good until after the 1

year mark post-surgery. It was at the point where I wondered if I would ever

feel " normal " , but then one day, it seemed like I woke up feeling much better.

Take your time and take care of YOU. Don't push things or worry to much.

Easier said than done, huh?

<dianagadsdenuk@...> wrote:

My name is and five months ago I had a spinal fusion L4, L5, S1...I had

hoped that I would be

over the surgery by now

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, it takes a lonnnnnng time to heal from a three level fusion. I also

had that feeling of a fist at the site of my incision, but it was really

only muscles contracting when they were tired or I did too much too soon.

I had my surgery at the end of October of 2004 and I still have good days

and bad days. I'm much better off than I was before my surgery, but I have

also developed nerve impingement because of scar tissue from my surgery as

well as disc problems *above* the fusion site that were not there at the

time of surgery. In other words, my lumbar spine is again failing me

because I had the fusion surgery to fix the worst of it.

Sometimes I think it never ends.

Let us know what your doctor says?

At 06:09 AM 2/17/2006, you wrote:

>My name is and five months ago I had a spinal fusion L4, L5, S1

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in Nov 2004 I had a level 2 fusion, L5 S1 I have 4 rods and 4 screws in my

back along with a decompression of the spinal cord and canal, I had a grade

II/III spondy with 5 mm displacement at the time of surgery. Healing time with

a fusion is anywhere from 6-12 months. I had some swelling at the surgical site

till about 4 mths post operative. I was on bed rest for 5 months with minimal

walking and exercise per my doc and was medically released at 6 mths. It takes

about 6 mths for fusion to take if it is going to. I developed neuritis at the

L5 level from surgery and have perm nerve damage in my right calf and foot.

What does the doc have you doing or not doing. Is there maybe something that

your doing more of that might be contributing to the swelling. My suggestion is

to keep a daily journal of your activities. At first before surgery the doc

told me at 1 mths post operative he wanted me walking a mile a day. You would

be surprised how quickly a mile can add up when

your up and walking around the house. I used a walker for the first 2 months

then a cane for 2 months after that. My email is cindy1966_miska@... if you

want to send me a email I would love to chat with you and see how your doing.

<dianagadsdenuk@...> wrote:

My name is and five months ago I had a spinal fusion L4, L5, S1

(I have two six inch rods and six screws and a bone graft) and a spinal

decompression after many years of pain. I had hoped that I would be

over the surgery by now but I still have swelling around the scar area

and I feel like a fist is trying to dig out through my back to the

right of the scar.

Has anyone else experience similar after a fusion. I'm due to see the

consultant again soon but it would be nice to hear from anyone else who

has had this surgery.

All the best

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Hi thank you for the message Vivian, I often wonder if I will ever

feel pain free again. I still have two other disks which are causing

me problems, one in the cervical and one mid spine. I'm please to

see that you woke up one day to feel better and I live in hope that I

will do the same.

How are you feeling now?

Regards

> My name is and five months ago I had a spinal fusion L4,

L5, S1...I had hoped that I would be

> over the surgery by now

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Hi , it does help to be in touch with other people who have had

similar. I read that it would take about 18months to get back to

normal (LOL) and I do feel better than before in parts, I used to

have really bad pain in my right buttock and all down my right leg

and that has definitely cleared. If I try and walk too fast I get a

sharp pain into my groin so I try not to do that however I am trying

to do more exercise and get rid of some weight but its a viscious

circle - can't move much because of pain so can't exercise much to

lose weight which would help. Re your scar About six years ago I a

carple tunnel done on my right hand and the scar tissue is terrible

looks like I have a zipper on my hand and I still get the pains in my

hand.

One day

> >My name is and five months ago I had a spinal fusion L4, L5,

S1

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Hi , nice to meet you, I had no bed rest at all, I was up the

next day after surgery. I was in hospital for 7 days and had

hydrotherapy after the third day. Once I had returned home I was not

allowed to do any more hydro until after the six week visit to the

consultant. I have been going once a week locally to hydro since

then but recently went back to my Gym and started doing the exercise

in the pool. I also probably went back to work too soon, I was back

at my desk after 8 weeks and I think that sitting a long time on my

chair makes the wound area swell. Still its difficult to keep

getting up and walking away from my desk. I will try to make the

effort.

> My name is and five months ago I had a spinal fusion L4,

L5, S1

> (I have two six inch rods and six screws and a bone graft) and a

spinal

> decompression after many years of pain. I had hoped that I would be

> over the surgery by now but I still have swelling around the scar

area

> and I feel like a fist is trying to dig out through my back to the

> right of the scar.

> Has anyone else experience similar after a fusion. I'm due to see

the

> consultant again soon but it would be nice to hear from anyone else

who

> has had this surgery.

>

> All the best

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I still have good days and bad. Although the pain is always there, it is managed

with daily non-narcotic pain meds. While the surgery didn't make me totally pain

free, it did get me off the narcotics, so it was successful in a way. Now I just

use the narcotics for really bad days.

I also have DDD (Degenerative Disc Disease) so it will only get worse...not

better. And we know it is getting worse...the pain levels are increasing and the

cat scan shows it. Because of a pacemaker, I can't have an MRI. But I intend to

live life as long as I can until that time when I have to admit to myself that

being active isn't worth all the pain.

<dianagadsdenuk@...> wrote:

Hi thank you for the message Vivian, I often wonder if I will ever feel pain

free again...How are you feeling now?

Vivian Harkness

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Good Luck to you Vivian, you sound as if you have really been through it.

Vivian Harkness <vivianharkness@...> wrote:

I still have good days and bad. Although the pain is always there, it is

managed with daily non-narcotic pain meds. While the surgery didn't make me

totally pain free, it did get me off the narcotics, so it was successful in a

way. Now I just use the narcotics for really bad days.

I also have DDD (Degenerative Disc Disease) so it will only get worse...not

better. And we know it is getting worse...the pain levels are increasing and the

cat scan shows it. Because of a pacemaker, I can't have an MRI. But I intend to

live life as long as I can until that time when I have to admit to myself that

being active isn't worth all the pain.

<dianagadsdenuk@...> wrote:

Hi thank you for the message Vivian, I often wonder if I will ever feel pain

free again...How are you feeling now?

Vivian Harkness

http://www.geocities.com/southeastsearchandrescue/index.html

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Hi Steph,

and welcome. Like you I have lost alot of my hair and what is left is

extremely thin. I currently wear a funky spiral curl wig!!

I am pinning my hopes on Armour thyroid improving the condition of my hair.

I only starting taking it this week. Prior to this I was on synthetic

medication for a year.

My hair loss got dramatic in the months leading up to last December the

first anniversary since getting treatment. Just be patient, and pray while

you start out on meds. I will go back to taking adrenal supplements as well,

as I read hair loss on other parts of the body (which I have also had) can

sometimes be adrenal in origin.

My hair will not hold any oil or moisture for long, no matter how rich the

substance is. Washing my hair results in knots which I have to cut out with

scissors. It is depressing I know, but be patient with yourself while you

start on your journey to wellness.

Love, Val

hi

> Hi have been struggling with dry brittle hair,depressinon,high anxity

> etc. For eleven years now have been to tons of doctors. I fianlly

> found a doc that found the problem. My thyriod. I will be starting on

> meds next week. Would like to hear some sucess stories on people who

> have had these problems I have that have been helped with meds. Thank

> you

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Val,thanks for your e-mail let me know how you are doing. I start my meds next

week. They are giving me a natural thyroid med. Also DHEA and Human growth

hormone do you take these? And what do you take for adrenal glands? Warmly Steph

<veetee@...> wrote: Hi Steph,

and welcome. Like you I have lost alot of my hair and what is left is

extremely thin. I currently wear a funky spiral curl wig!!

I am pinning my hopes on Armour thyroid improving the condition of my hair.

I only starting taking it this week. Prior to this I was on synthetic

medication for a year.

My hair loss got dramatic in the months leading up to last December the

first anniversary since getting treatment. Just be patient, and pray while

you start out on meds. I will go back to taking adrenal supplements as well,

as I read hair loss on other parts of the body (which I have also had) can

sometimes be adrenal in origin.

My hair will not hold any oil or moisture for long, no matter how rich the

substance is. Washing my hair results in knots which I have to cut out with

scissors. It is depressing I know, but be patient with yourself while you

start on your journey to wellness.

Love, Val

hi

> Hi have been struggling with dry brittle hair,depressinon,high anxity

> etc. For eleven years now have been to tons of doctors. I fianlly

> found a doc that found the problem. My thyriod. I will be starting on

> meds next week. Would like to hear some sucess stories on people who

> have had these problems I have that have been helped with meds. Thank

> you

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Hi Sheri,

I have done the whole route started my son on Depakote he was on it for

several months and it wasn't our child anymore, grades went straight downhill

and it wasn't our child it made him very slow. I knew there was more there I

could do, I have healed myself of MS but to get someone else to follow I found I

had to gently move in and do changes as we go and even a child will know that

they feel better too.

The things that I make sure is moving is his colon, you need to poop 2 to 3

times a day and he takes Kid-d-lax (herbal tincture by Dr ), drink

plenty of water, Superfood too.

It has been a 1 1/2 years now since this all started I it was narrowed down

to a headache every 3 weeks and I did a parasite cleanse on him and since 2

months ago has not had a headache since. Dr Hulda e says parasites are

linked to epilepsy and now I truly believe that I have seen it for my own eyes.

pslorenz <ps.lorenz@...> wrote:

Hi, My name is Sheri. We have 3 boys: Ben 7, 5, and

3. Last week I went to the ped. neurologist thinking that he was

going to tell me, that ticks are heriditary and go on with your life.

Instead, he sent us for an eeg and told us that Ben has Absence

Epilepsy. He put Ben on Depakote. We know nothing about epilepsy and

the treatments of it. I'm desperately looking for help and others

experiences. We have started him on a nutritional supplement that is

supposed to enhance cell to cell communication. We are totally in the

dark. We also were informed that Ben has some Asperger like symtoms.

What a day!!! We do buy organic produce and eggs, but obviously, I'm

interested in diet changes. What have ya'll experienced? Thank you

so much for any input you may have. Sheri

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SHERI YOU HAVE TO WATCH OUT WITH DEPAKOTE,IT CAN CAUSE LIVER DAMMAGE!!!! I TOOK

IT MORE THAN 25 YEARS AGO AND THE DOCTOR WAS BLAMING EVERYTHING BUT THE

MEDICINE.HE TOLD ME I WAS DRINKING TOO MUCH,I TOLD HIM,I DON'T DRINK,THEN HE

SAYS YOU'RE EATING TOO MANY EGGS,I TOLD HIM I DIDN'T EAT EGGS,HE COULDN'T FIND

ANYTHING ELSE TO BLAME IT ON.SO KEEP A CLOSE LOOK WITH THE DEPAKOTE IF I DIDN'T

GET OFF OF DEPAKOTE I WOULD NOT BE SENDING THIS TO YOU.MAY GOD HEAL YOUR

CHILD,MARK HOGUE

pslorenz <ps.lorenz@...> wrote: Hi, My name is Sheri. We have 3 boys:

Ben 7, 5, and

3. Last week I went to the ped. neurologist thinking that he was

going to tell me, that ticks are heriditary and go on with your life.

Instead, he sent us for an eeg and told us that Ben has Absence

Epilepsy. He put Ben on Depakote. We know nothing about epilepsy and

the treatments of it. I'm desperately looking for help and others

experiences. We have started him on a nutritional supplement that is

supposed to enhance cell to cell communication. We are totally in the

dark. We also were informed that Ben has some Asperger like symtoms.

What a day!!! We do buy organic produce and eggs, but obviously, I'm

interested in diet changes. What have ya'll experienced? Thank you

so much for any input you may have. Sheri

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Hi laura,

thanks. I would really welcome the possibility to know more on scope

of coconut based business. Rite now we basically sell the nuts to the

distributors, the main disadvantage is tat the price in the market is

not that great and it is also fluctuating. Because the profit margin

is not high, we are not able to expand or improve the trees

productivity. Therefore im more intrested in knowin what other kinds

of business can be done. Hope you or any of our friends in the group

would be able to help me..cheers

krishna

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> Welcome ,Krishna. we have growers , manufacturers , distributors and

consumers.

> IN NC

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> Hi

> My name is Brittney S. and I am new to this group.

==>Hi Brittney! Welcome to our group.

>I just wanted to introduce myself and ask a question. My question is,

what can you do to cure acne? Is there anything you can do for pits

(from acne) in the face? I was interested in this group and maybe it

will give me a new way to help my acne, because dermatologists are not

really helping. So at this point I am willing to try something new.

==>Candida can be the " cause " of acne, and many people who have acne

found that this program cured their acne along with other health

problems caused by candida. When you give your body what it needs it

will do a great job of healing, but natural healing take time, patience

and persistence. The sun is a great healer as well, and if you can't

get enough do take cod liver oil - see the cod liver oil files for

different brands and what you must take in addition.

==>If you get enough sun and take only fish oils (for Omega-3) you need

to also take a vitamin A supplement. Omega-3 and the oil soluble

vitamins (vitamins A, D, & E) are extremely important for healing the

skin, but others also help, as well as the diet. Do ensure you are

taking all of the Essential Supplements listed in my article along with

the diet - the diet and supplements work together.

The best in health,

Bee

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Hi all,

> My name is Brittney S. and I am new to this group.I just wanted to introduce

myself and ask a question. My question is, what can you do to cure acne? Is

there anything you can do for pits (from acne) in the face? I was interested

in this group and maybe it will give me a new way to help my acne, because

dermatologists are not really helping. So at this point I am willing to try

something new.

>

Well, I'm trying to come out of lurker mode, after tending to my sick family

this last month ++. I also wanted to try and thoroughly read Bee's article on

solving candida, which I am close to having done now (wanting to be on the 'same

page' and all ;>).

Hi Brittney S.! Just wanted to note here fwiw, that I've had acne/rash issues on

my back for 15 years... tried all kinds of things, including GSE straight.

Nothing helped. Two weeks into my candida diet and it cleared. Amazing. Next I

will work on the scarring. There are many products out there that I personally

won't use as I prefer natural methods. I will be creating a salve that will

include things like Lavender EO and gotu kola, carrot seed extract, maybe even

german ( " blue " ) chamomile EO (all aide in regeneration of healthy skin, and/or

healing scars), amongst other things.

I mention these so that if you like, you can look into finding a salve or balm

at your local Health Food Store.

Be Well,

kimb'

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--- Bee Wilder <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

> >I just wanted to introduce myself and ask a

> question. My question is,

> what can you do to cure acne?

> ==>Candida can be the " cause " of acne, and many

> people who have acne

> found that this program cured their acne along with

> other health

> problems caused by candida. The sun is a great

healer as well,

I want to second Bee's information here, as I've seen

the results first hand. My acne is 95% improved on

this diet.

I know it would be even better if I weren't releasing

so many toxins from all the weight I have to lose/have

been losing.

I have MAJOR skin problems including psoriasis,

body/face acne, skin that is VERY slow to heal, skin

tags, etc.

I have the kind of body that instead of showing

problems on the inside I show them on the outside. I

also see great improvement when I get sunshine in all

my skin problems.

I found out recently that Mederma, which is an over

the counter scar lightener is mostly just onion bulb

extract.. isn't that interesting?

I think they mix onion bulb extract with some

thickening agent and fragrance so it doesn't smell

like onions if I understand the ingredient list, but

basically it's just onion.

Which tells you a lot about the healing powers of

foods! So maybe the Mederma would help your scars.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

Today is the most important day.

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Hi Brittney!

Unfortunately, there's no " cure " for acne. I get the pitting acne

too. I hate it. I have found that the diet and supplements as Bee

suggests have helped. I get fewer of the sebaceous cysts and fewer

pits. However, when I do have one that's really big, I have found that

putting a little coconut oil on it at night before I go to bed helps it

heal faster which makes it pit less.

I also don't know if Bee would approve of this, but I have found

Proactiv helpful in my case. I use the face wash and the toner.

However, I use the coconut oil and some oil of oregano instead of their

repair lotion.

I have also found that taking wild oregano capsules have helped along

with the other supplements Bee suggests.

I got no help from dermatologists. One tried to push accutane on me

and got mad when I wouldn't agree to that treatment. She gave me a

lecture that she couldn't help me if I didn't want to help myself. It

has terrible side effects. I tried different topicals, clindamycin,

retin A, finacea, and others, but have found the changes in my diet to

be much more effective along with the coconut oil and supplements.

Plus, the different creams/gels dried out my skin so bad and made it

red and peely.

Hope that helps!

>

what can you do to

> cure acne? Is there anything you can do for pits (from acne) in the

> face?

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I tried Mederma and didn't have any luck. Time, more than anything,

has helped to lighten my acne scars.

So maybe the Mederma would help your scars.

>

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, try to get enough of a different med---reallly look for a different

doc. I am really sorry you are struggling but you don't have to.

http://www.geocities.com/thyroide for links to better docs.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

Gracia

> My name is I am 69 years old and have had hypothyroidism for

> 57 years,My md cut my Levoxyl from 300 mcg to 100 and I cry when

> I have to brush my hair,do laundry. Fix something to eat exc. This

> is not living. My husband of 30 years passed away and I am recovering

> from a stroke so all I do all day is lay around. This is not me I want

> to feel better and get out and live.What do you all suggest I do? I

> feel I need stronger med.So I can be human again.I would like to get

> off Levoxyl and all meds.I was told Black Walnut would help.

> Thank you for listing

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, why did the doc drop your dose so low? Hope he wasn't going by

the TSH. The Ft4 and Ft3 show the circulating thyroid hormones.

Betty

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> My name is I am 69 years old and have had hypothyroidism for

> 57 years,My md cut my Levoxyl from 300 mcg to 100 and I cry when

> I have to brush my hair,do laundry. Fix something to eat exc. This

> is not living. My husband of 30 years passed away and I am

recovering

> from a stroke so all I do all day is lay around. This is not me I

want

> to feel better and get out and live.What do you all suggest I do? I

> feel I need stronger med.So I can be human again.I would like to get

> off Levoxyl and all meds.I was told Black Walnut would help.

> Thank you for listing

>

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Thank you Gracia one of the Dr they reckmend is mine and he will not change me

from Levoxyl to Armour so I will just go on line to buy Armour.No one should

have to live like this(this is living) I do feel better now that I have company

sorry for each and every one of you and hope all find the right answers.

Thanks again

Re: Hi

, try to get enough of a different med---reallly look for a different

doc. I am really sorry you are struggling but you don't have to.

http://www.geocities.com/thyroide for links to better docs.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

Gracia

> My name is I am 69 years old and have had hypothyroidism for

> 57 years,My md cut my Levoxyl from 300 mcg to 100 and I cry when

> I have to brush my hair,do laundry. Fix something to eat exc. This

> is not living. My husband of 30 years passed away and I am recovering

> from a stroke so all I do all day is lay around. This is not me I want

> to feel better and get out and live.What do you all suggest I do? I

> feel I need stronger med.So I can be human again.I would like to get

> off Levoxyl and all meds.I was told Black Walnut would help.

> Thank you for listing

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well then absolutely change docs, there is no reason to suffer! Read

Hormone Solutions by Thierry Hertoghe MD. Do you have the addys to order

Armour yourself?

Gracia

Thank you Gracia one of the Dr they reckmend is mine and he will not change

me from Levoxyl to Armour so I will just go on line to buy Armour.No one

should have to live like this(this is living) I do feel better now that I

have company sorry for each and every one of you and hope all find the right

answers.

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No I do not know how to go about getting Armour Do you?

Thanks again

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well then absolutely change docs, there is no reason to suffer! Read

Hormone Solutions by Thierry Hertoghe MD. Do you have the addys to order

Armour yourself?

Gracia

Thank you Gracia one of the Dr they reckmend is mine and he will not change

me from Levoxyl to Armour so I will just go on line to buy Armour.No one

should have to live like this(this is living) I do feel better now that I

have company sorry for each and every one of you and hope all find the right

answers.

Thanks again

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