Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 yes I will send it to you. Gracia > No I do not know how to go about getting Armour Do you? > Thanks again > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.3/350 - Release Date: 5/28/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 HI - I feel for you....if you can't get a doc to help you can buy Armour or even Levoxyl on line without an RX - many of us have had to do it until we have been able to find a good doc. Don't give your later years to bad doctors. Kerry Hi My name is I am 69 years old and have had hypothyroidism for 57 years,My md cut my Levoxyl from 300 mcg to 100 and I cry when I have to brush my hair,do laundry. Fix something to eat exc. This is not living. My husband of 30 years passed away and I am recovering from a stroke so all I do all day is lay around. This is not me I want to feel better and get out and live.What do you all suggest I do? I feel I need stronger med.So I can be human again.I would like to get off Levoxyl and all meds.I was told Black Walnut would help. Thank you for listing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Thank you Kerry I have looked all day on line for Armour without a RX and can't find one here in USA do you know of any? Thanks again Hi My name is I am 69 years old and have had hypothyroidism for 57 years,My md cut my Levoxyl from 300 mcg to 100 and I cry when I have to brush my hair,do laundry. Fix something to eat exc. This is not living. My husband of 30 years passed away and I am recovering from a stroke so all I do all day is lay around. This is not me I want to feel better and get out and live.What do you all suggest I do? I feel I need stronger med.So I can be human again.I would like to get off Levoxyl and all meds.I was told Black Walnut would help. Thank you for listing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 , You wrote: > Thank you Kerry I have looked all day on line for Armour without a RX > and can't find one here in USA do you know of any? You won't find a single one in the US, because it is against the law to sell a prescription-class FDA-approved medication without a prescription inside the US. You can get an overseas pharmacy to ship a three month supply under the restrictions I posted earlier. To do this, you might need to represent to the overseas supplier or to the shipping agent that you actually meet the restrictions, in which case the responsibility for breaking the law falls on you, rather than the pharmacy. One of the restrictions is that you are only supposed to do this once. In the past, these restrictions have not been strictly enforced or even diligently investigated, but the penalties warrant a well thought out decision on your part. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Thank you Chuck then that is not a good thing.I guess I will just try to find a Dr. Thanks again Re: Hi , You wrote: > Thank you Kerry I have looked all day on line for Armour without a RX > and can't find one here in USA do you know of any? You won't find a single one in the US, because it is against the law to sell a prescription-class FDA-approved medication without a prescription inside the US. You can get an overseas pharmacy to ship a three month supply under the restrictions I posted earlier. To do this, you might need to represent to the overseas supplier or to the shipping agent that you actually meet the restrictions, in which case the responsibility for breaking the law falls on you, rather than the pharmacy. One of the restrictions is that you are only supposed to do this once. In the past, these restrictions have not been strictly enforced or even diligently investigated, but the penalties warrant a well thought out decision on your part. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Try Drugstore.com or http://www.internationalpharmacy.com - I have used IAS as well in the UK and they are reliable though a bit more expensive. - http://www.antiaging-systems.com/ I don't know about the risks - I have had my hormones opened every time (about 10 shipments) and the only one that was confiscated was for DHEA - go figure? Anyway I'm not in the US so I don't know how it is for you - but to me the risks are only relative to what you have to gain. Kerry Re: Hi Thank you Kerry I have looked all day on line for Armour without a RX and can't find one here in USA do you know of any? Thanks again Hi My name is I am 69 years old and have had hypothyroidism for 57 years,My md cut my Levoxyl from 300 mcg to 100 and I cry when I have to brush my hair,do laundry. Fix something to eat exc. This is not living. My husband of 30 years passed away and I am recovering from a stroke so all I do all day is lay around. This is not me I want to feel better and get out and live.What do you all suggest I do? I feel I need stronger med.So I can be human again.I would like to get off Levoxyl and all meds.I was told Black Walnut would help. Thank you for listing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 , many thousands of people order over the internet, and the gestapo doesn't show up at their door. I order from England all the time. I guess you have to figure out if your need to be well outweighs the poor treatment we get from most doctors. Gracia Thank you Chuck then that is not a good thing.I guess I will just try to find a Dr. Thanks again -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.3/350 - Release Date: 5/28/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Where do you order from?I just can't go on like this Thanks Re: Hi , many thousands of people order over the internet, and the gestapo doesn't show up at their door. I order from England all the time. I guess you have to figure out if your need to be well outweighs the poor treatment we get from most doctors. Gracia Thank you Chuck then that is not a good thing.I guess I will just try to find a Dr. Thanks again -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.3/350 - Release Date: 5/28/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 I sent it to you, did you get it? gracia > Where do you order from?I just can't go on like this > Thanks -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.3/350 - Release Date: 5/28/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 Yes Gracia it's ordered and I feel better already.I may comb my hair today LOL Thank you and God bless you Re: Hi I sent it to you, did you get it? gracia > Where do you order from?I just can't go on like this > Thanks -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.3/350 - Release Date: 5/28/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 good luck LOL I can relate to combing hair! you may need a little help with right dosage so don't hesitate to ask. Gracia Yes Gracia it's ordered and I feel better already.I may comb my hair today LOL Thank you and God bless you -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.4/351 - Release Date: 5/29/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Hi Betty I have no idea whyI just know I was really feeling good lost a lot of weight and looked forward to each day.I hope I did right I ordered 3grains of Armour. Thank you Re: Hi , why did the doc drop your dose so low? Hope he wasn't going by the TSH. The Ft4 and Ft3 show the circulating thyroid hormones. Betty -- In hypothyroidism , " clowndol " <meadams@...> wrote: > > My name is I am 69 years old and have had hypothyroidism for > 57 years,My md cut my Levoxyl from 300 mcg to 100 and I cry when > I have to brush my hair,do laundry. Fix something to eat exc. This > is not living. My husband of 30 years passed away and I am recovering > from a stroke so all I do all day is lay around. This is not me I want > to feel better and get out and live.What do you all suggest I do? I > feel I need stronger med.So I can be human again.I would like to get > off Levoxyl and all meds.I was told Black Walnut would help. > Thank you for listing > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Hello! I am 38 and have been taking Synthroid for over 14 years. I have no other health problems just this hypothyroidism, I am overweight too. All of my labs for lipids, diabetes etc are normal. Just recently my Endocrinologist has been testing me every 10 weeks trying to get my thyroid level steady. Usually it is only once a year. Each time I go in he is increasing my medication. My current prescription is 300mcg. I am having no luck losing any weight. I have noticed that my concentration level is not what it used to be. I do have forgetfulness more than usual.I used to blame this on having " blonde moments " but must admit that this is happening more often than before. My diet is reasonable but exercise is too draining. I get tired just thinking about it! My body requires at least 8 hours of sleep every night which I have no problem getting. My ability to fall asleep quickly is pretty amazing. My friends and family cannot believe how quickly I am out! Reading the posts on the board has been helpful for me. I had no idea that I was not supposed to take vitamin supplements within 4 hours of taking Synthroid, that I was not supposed to be eating broccoli, soy or other foods that I have enjoyed until recently. My doctor never offers any additional information just the same thing every time and off to the lab for more blood work. I would appreciate hearing from others what has worked for you in regards to diet, vitamin supplements and moderate exercise. This recent dosage increase seems really high. My mother now takes Synthroid but her dosage is only .25. Wouldn't you think I should see some sort of improvement by now? Is it out of the ordinary for a relatively young person to be taking such a high dosage of Sythroid (300mcg)? Any feedback/advice is appreciated. - _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of betty_flager Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 10:12 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hi , why did the doc drop your dose so low? Hope he wasn't going by the TSH. The Ft4 and Ft3 show the circulating thyroid hormones. Betty -- In hypothyroidism , " clowndol " <meadams@...> wrote: > > My name is I am 69 years old and have had hypothyroidism for > 57 years,My md cut my Levoxyl from 300 mcg to 100 and I cry when > I have to brush my hair,do laundry. Fix something to eat exc. This > is not living. My husband of 30 years passed away and I am recovering > from a stroke so all I do all day is lay around. This is not me I want > to feel better and get out and live.What do you all suggest I do? I > feel I need stronger med.So I can be human again.I would like to get > off Levoxyl and all meds.I was told Black Walnut would help. > Thank you for listing > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Goodness , shouldnt' you call and ask and tell him of what's happening to you? REgards mary adams <meadams@...> wrote: Hi Betty I have no idea whyI just know I was really feeling good lost a lot of weight and looked forward to each day.I hope I did right I ordered 3grains of Armour. Thank you Re: Hi , why did the doc drop your dose so low? Hope he wasn't going by the TSH. The Ft4 and Ft3 show the circulating thyroid hormones. Betty -- In hypothyroidism , " clowndol " <meadams@...> wrote: > > My name is I am 69 years old and have had hypothyroidism for > 57 years,My md cut my Levoxyl from 300 mcg to 100 and I cry when > I have to brush my hair,do laundry. Fix something to eat exc. This > is not living. My husband of 30 years passed away and I am recovering > from a stroke so all I do all day is lay around. This is not me I want > to feel better and get out and live.What do you all suggest I do? I > feel I need stronger med.So I can be human again.I would like to get > off Levoxyl and all meds.I was told Black Walnut would help. > Thank you for listing > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 I am a diabetic,So I see my Dr.every month,same ol thing at my age things happen.I am now trying to find a new Dr I live in the country and I hate going into San but to feel better I would walk. Take care Re: Hi , why did the doc drop your dose so low? Hope he wasn't going by the TSH. The Ft4 and Ft3 show the circulating thyroid hormones. Betty -- In hypothyroidism , " clowndol " <meadams@...> wrote: > > My name is I am 69 years old and have had hypothyroidism for > 57 years,My md cut my Levoxyl from 300 mcg to 100 and I cry when > I have to brush my hair,do laundry. Fix something to eat exc. This > is not living. My husband of 30 years passed away and I am recovering > from a stroke so all I do all day is lay around. This is not me I want > to feel better and get out and live.What do you all suggest I do? I > feel I need stronger med.So I can be human again.I would like to get > off Levoxyl and all meds.I was told Black Walnut would help. > Thank you for listing > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 Actualy these things are not supposed to happen at your age. Have you ever read the book " reverse the aging process " by Null, or " Natural Cures They Don't Want You To Know About " by Treudeau, I highly recommend that one. Good luck with everything. mary adams <meadams@...> wrote: I am a diabetic,So I see my Dr.every month,same ol thing at my age things happen.I am now trying to find a new Dr I live in the country and I hate going into San but to feel better I would walk. Take care Re: Hi , why did the doc drop your dose so low? Hope he wasn't going by the TSH. The Ft4 and Ft3 show the circulating thyroid hormones. Betty -- In hypothyroidism , " clowndol " <meadams@...> wrote: > > My name is I am 69 years old and have had hypothyroidism for > 57 years,My md cut my Levoxyl from 300 mcg to 100 and I cry when > I have to brush my hair,do laundry. Fix something to eat exc. This > is not living. My husband of 30 years passed away and I am recovering > from a stroke so all I do all day is lay around. This is not me I want > to feel better and get out and live.What do you all suggest I do? I > feel I need stronger med.So I can be human again.I would like to get > off Levoxyl and all meds.I was told Black Walnut would help. > Thank you for listing > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 there are some good docs in TX . Look at http://www.geocities.com/thyroide gracia I am a diabetic,So I see my Dr.every month,same ol thing at my age things happen.I am now trying to find a new Dr I live in the country and I hate going into San but to feel better I would walk. Take care -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.0/353 - Release Date: 5/31/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Hi everyone just wanted to share with you I had a wonderful day today I don't know why I feel so good. I havn't done anything different.I hope all of you have a day tomorrow like I had today. Take care Re: Re: Hi there are some good docs in TX . Look at http://www.geocities.com/thyroide gracia I am a diabetic,So I see my Dr.every month,same ol thing at my age things happen.I am now trying to find a new Dr I live in the country and I hate going into San but to feel better I would walk. Take care -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.0/353 - Release Date: 5/31/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 I hope so too. Congrats on your day. mary adams <meadams@...> wrote: Hi everyone just wanted to share with you I had a wonderful day today I don't know why I feel so good. I havn't done anything different.I hope all of you have a day tomorrow like I had today. Take care Re: Re: Hi there are some good docs in TX . Look at http://www.geocities.com/thyroide gracia I am a diabetic,So I see my Dr.every month,same ol thing at my age things happen.I am now trying to find a new Dr I live in the country and I hate going into San but to feel better I would walk. Take care -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.0/353 - Release Date: 5/31/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 Hi , it is not abnormal to take so much but probably can be changed. You wrote " my diet is reasonable " . Maybe that is something you should consider changing to " my diet is great " . It's hard to have a great diet and it's also hard to know what a great diet is. So many experts say so many different things and I think a great diet is different for everyone. My personal " great diet " includes staying away from dairy, flour, sugar. Once in a while I will allow myself to do what I want. I also do not eat meat but if you do it wouldn't hurt to make it organic. I believe diet is everything so maybe you should start with researching what diet works for you. Good luck and welcome. -jessica <lisa@...> wrote: Hello! I am 38 and have been taking Synthroid for over 14 years. I have no other health problems just this hypothyroidism, I am overweight too. All of my labs for lipids, diabetes etc are normal. Just recently my Endocrinologist has been testing me every 10 weeks trying to get my thyroid level steady. Usually it is only once a year. Each time I go in he is increasing my medication. My current prescription is 300mcg. I am having no luck losing any weight. I have noticed that my concentration level is not what it used to be. I do have forgetfulness more than usual.I used to blame this on having " blonde moments " but must admit that this is happening more often than before. My diet is reasonable but exercise is too draining. I get tired just thinking about it! My body requires at least 8 hours of sleep every night which I have no problem getting. My ability to fall asleep quickly is pretty amazing. My friends and family cannot believe how quickly I am out! Reading the posts on the board has been helpful for me. I had no idea that I was not supposed to take vitamin supplements within 4 hours of taking Synthroid, that I was not supposed to be eating broccoli, soy or other foods that I have enjoyed until recently. My doctor never offers any additional information just the same thing every time and off to the lab for more blood work. I would appreciate hearing from others what has worked for you in regards to diet, vitamin supplements and moderate exercise. This recent dosage increase seems really high. My mother now takes Synthroid but her dosage is only .25. Wouldn't you think I should see some sort of improvement by now? Is it out of the ordinary for a relatively young person to be taking such a high dosage of Sythroid (300mcg)? Any feedback/advice is appreciated. - _____ From: hypothyroidism [mailto:hypothyroidism ] On Behalf Of betty_flager Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 10:12 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Hi , why did the doc drop your dose so low? Hope he wasn't going by the TSH. The Ft4 and Ft3 show the circulating thyroid hormones. Betty -- In hypothyroidism , " clowndol " <meadams@...> wrote: > > My name is I am 69 years old and have had hypothyroidism for > 57 years,My md cut my Levoxyl from 300 mcg to 100 and I cry when > I have to brush my hair,do laundry. Fix something to eat exc. This > is not living. My husband of 30 years passed away and I am recovering > from a stroke so all I do all day is lay around. This is not me I want > to feel better and get out and live.What do you all suggest I do? I > feel I need stronger med.So I can be human again.I would like to get > off Levoxyl and all meds.I was told Black Walnut would help. > Thank you for listing > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 , Your message just came through today. I suspect it was the magic of -land at work. Anyway, you wrote: > > ... My current prescription is 300mcg. ... My mother now takes Synthroid but her dosage is > only .25. ... That is pretty close, 250 versus 300 mcg. The nominal full replacement dose in women is 200 mcg (100 in men), but that is adjusted by weight. Also, some people need extra due to difficulties converting. From your description, you are at risk for sleep apnea. This causes or contributes to weight gain, but it will damage your heart if left untreated. Talk to your doctor. Get a sleep test. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 In a message dated 6/8/2006 8:01:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, weegrace@... writes: She wants me hypo she says to give me block and replace. I did try and talk her out of that and asked if it was ok to reduce Carbimazole slightly but she said no and am thinking of reducing dosage slightly myself (see previous thread). Dear Grace, Most people on this list did not do well w/the block and replace. Weaning off the ATDs seems to work much better. I hope you stick to your guns, and try to reduce your dosage if you determine you are hypo. When I felt I was getting hypo, as I wrote earlier, I insisted the endo confirm this with a blood test, then insisted on reducing the dose, which he did agree to. It worked out very well for me--I hope you have the same outcome. Best, AntJoan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Hi just saw your message. I have been on Carbimazole for four weeks now and they have taken me from hyper through to feeling quite normal for a few days and now I think I am going hypo so they do work. Saw Dr today and she has taken bloods, will let you know what effect the Carbimazole has had. The Carbimazole has certainly slowed my heart down and made me feel so much calmer tho I sincerely wish the Dr would not insist that I have to go hypo. She wants me hypo she says to give me block and replace. I did try and talk her out of that and asked if it was ok to reduce Carbimazole slightly but she said no and am thinking of reducing dosage slightly myself (see previous thread). Take care Grace ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband from 14.99 with free setup! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Hi thanks for reply. Interesting people seem not to do well on block and replace - more detemined to try cutting back meds now then. Will hold off til I get blood test results and take it from there tho I feel as tho I have gone hypo, just never realised it happened so fast! Will keep in touch Grace ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband from 14.99 with free setup! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2006 Report Share Posted June 9, 2006 I have met people that do good on block and replace (B & R). And swear by it. One problem for them is they are unable to completely wean off the ATDs without rebounding to hypER. But with the ATD alone they go hypO. (Even at very low doses.) B & R allows them to get to where they need to be in the thyroid ranges and be stable until their bodies can recover enough to handle things on its own. Another problem is high antibody titers. ATDs are immunosuppresants and as such can aid in the lowering of antibodies. They take the ATD to lower the antibodies and take the replacement T4/T3 to counteract the ATDs effect on the thyroid hormone production. You might ask the dr " why " she wants to go for B & R therapy versus straight ATD use. If you are mainly trying to lower thyroid hormone levels, the general rule of thumb is to cut back ATDs as levels drop. Cutting back would prevent the " need " for replacement T4/T3. And eventually most people can slowly work their way to where their body regains control of regulating thyroid hormones. Without the need for ATDs or replacement meds. This is referred to as " remission " . Hope that helps some Kim Re: Hi Hi thanks for reply. Interesting people seem not to do well on block and replace - more detemined to try cutting back meds now then. Will hold off til I get blood test results and take it from there tho I feel as tho I have gone hypo, just never realised it happened so fast! Will keep in touch Grace __________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband from 14.99 with free setup! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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