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>

> Hi! My name is Angel and I am glad to find this group. I have been

> suffering for years with candida and have just begun to take steps

to fix this problem. I have not had sugar or caffeine since Dec. 10th

which is HUGE for me and I am now ready to move into a more aggressive

attack against this awful thing that makes me feel SO bad.

>

> Is there a list of recommended foods anywhere?

==>Hi Angel. Welcome to our group. Good for you on cutting out

sugar and caffeine! That's a start.

==>It is best to do the " required reading " emailed to you when you

joined, which are not only our Group's Rules, but also my main

article " How to Successfully Overcome Candida " at:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php

==>That way we are all on the same page, and myself and my moderators

do not have to spend so much time answering questions in that article.

==>Also there are many handy lists of foods and supplements:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu2.php

==>I suggest you also read this article on Curing Candida, How to Get

Started:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

>

> Does anyone have a guess as to how long it might take to feel

better? I am thinking it might take a while as my symptoms are vast

and they have been happening for some time.

==>Most people nowadays have had candida since they were conceived in

the womb. But if you read my article (noted above) you will learn

about Hering's Law of Cures which states how long it takes to get

well.

> I also lived in a home for 2 years that we found out was saturated

with toxic mold and we had to burn it to the ground. Yikes!

==>Wow, that's horrible. Did you know that people with strong immune

systems wouldn't be " as affected " by mold however?

>

> I have 4 kids and a dear husband. Is it likely that having lived in

> the mold house they have issues with candida as well? What kind of

> approach would be good with kids? I am already transitioning us all

> over to " Nourishing Traditions " and Weston Price ways of eating.

Will this be good enough for the kids?

==>If your kids have candida they will need to do more than just

follow the Weston A. Price principles. My diet does follow a lot of

their main principles but once you read about candida you'll

understand why only WAP doesn't help. I've known a few women who

have followed WAP yet they and their babies still had candida.

>

> Thanks for any thoughts ar advice you have! I am looking forward to

> knowing all of you.

==>We are looking forward to knowing you and your family too. Take

good care. Do read a lot my friend, and then get back to us for

support and to answer questions.

The best in health, Bee

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Vikki,

I'm still in awe at you putting your own shoulder back in place at the scene

of the accident!

I don't have any advice for you, cause I've not had any procedures done yet.

i just wanted to say hello.

You're in the right place, these guys have a lot of answers.

Dee

vikkilynn2006 <vikkilynn@...> wrote:

I guess ya'll are wondering who the heck I am. I joined this group a

few months ago. I have been lurking in the background all this time,

hoping for information to help myself. At the same time, looking

around other places for help.

12 years ago I had a cervical fusion, C5-6. After about 6-8 weeks of

recovery I was good to go. Nearly pain free and again totally

functional.

This past May I had a bike accident and went into the ditch. I had

dislocated my shoulder and and put it back myself at the accident. I

was then taken to the hospital and x-rayed, and put into a sling.

Upon follow up doctors appointments the shoulder healed, but wad not

feeling better. They did an MRI of the neck and found I again have

DDD, ruptured disc, bone spurs and a forminal narrowing of the spinal

column. The neurosurgeon wants to do another fusion of C6-7. Now this

is the same surgeon that did the 1st fusion. And he did a great job

the first time. But, I cannot afford to take the time off for the

recovery and pay for the insurance while I am off. So I have been

looking for alternatives to the surgery. I would also rather not lose

any more mobility in my neck.

I still work every day. I am a retail manager so it is doable. But I

am on restriction for raising my arms above the shoulder and heavy

lifting. My employer has been very understanding to this point and I

consider myself fortunate.

I have checked into laser surgery, but was turned down by my insurance

because of some deal of it being in Florida and Michigan will not

accept their insurance forms. I also found some bad press on the

place as well.

So here I am.... still looking for answers and forwarding what I find

to ya'll. I guess I should have introduced myself before I posted.

But I have been lurking for sometime and failed to do so.

I do not take any pain medications beyond ibuprofen. I am allergic to

opiates and would rather find another way.

Thanks for letting me ramble

Vikki Lynn

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Vikki,

I'm still in awe at you putting your own shoulder back in place at the scene

of the accident!

I don't have any advice for you, cause I've not had any procedures done yet.

i just wanted to say hello.

You're in the right place, these guys have a lot of answers.

Dee

vikkilynn2006 <vikkilynn@...> wrote:

I guess ya'll are wondering who the heck I am. I joined this group a

few months ago. I have been lurking in the background all this time,

hoping for information to help myself. At the same time, looking

around other places for help.

12 years ago I had a cervical fusion, C5-6. After about 6-8 weeks of

recovery I was good to go. Nearly pain free and again totally

functional.

This past May I had a bike accident and went into the ditch. I had

dislocated my shoulder and and put it back myself at the accident. I

was then taken to the hospital and x-rayed, and put into a sling.

Upon follow up doctors appointments the shoulder healed, but wad not

feeling better. They did an MRI of the neck and found I again have

DDD, ruptured disc, bone spurs and a forminal narrowing of the spinal

column. The neurosurgeon wants to do another fusion of C6-7. Now this

is the same surgeon that did the 1st fusion. And he did a great job

the first time. But, I cannot afford to take the time off for the

recovery and pay for the insurance while I am off. So I have been

looking for alternatives to the surgery. I would also rather not lose

any more mobility in my neck.

I still work every day. I am a retail manager so it is doable. But I

am on restriction for raising my arms above the shoulder and heavy

lifting. My employer has been very understanding to this point and I

consider myself fortunate.

I have checked into laser surgery, but was turned down by my insurance

because of some deal of it being in Florida and Michigan will not

accept their insurance forms. I also found some bad press on the

place as well.

So here I am.... still looking for answers and forwarding what I find

to ya'll. I guess I should have introduced myself before I posted.

But I have been lurking for sometime and failed to do so.

I do not take any pain medications beyond ibuprofen. I am allergic to

opiates and would rather find another way.

Thanks for letting me ramble

Vikki Lynn

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I think the only reason I was able to do that was because I was still in shock

and not really

aware of what I was doing. I realized it was way too far forward and just

pushed it back where

it belonged. I was feeling the pain but not like I did later when the

adrenaline faded.... lol

Vikki Lynn

Re: hi

Vikki,

I'm still in awe at you putting your own shoulder back in place at the scene

of the accident!

I don't have any advice for you, cause I've not had any procedures done yet. i

just wanted to say hello.

You're in the right place, these guys have a lot of answers.

Dee

vikkilynn2006 <vikkilynn@...> wrote:

I guess ya'll are wondering who the heck I am. I joined this group a

few months ago. I have been lurking in the background all this time,

hoping for information to help myself. At the same time, looking

around other places for help.

12 years ago I had a cervical fusion, C5-6. After about 6-8 weeks of

recovery I was good to go. Nearly pain free and again totally

functional.

This past May I had a bike accident and went into the ditch. I had

dislocated my shoulder and and put it back myself at the accident. I

was then taken to the hospital and x-rayed, and put into a sling.

Upon follow up doctors appointments the shoulder healed, but wad not

feeling better. They did an MRI of the neck and found I again have

DDD, ruptured disc, bone spurs and a forminal narrowing of the spinal

column. The neurosurgeon wants to do another fusion of C6-7. Now this

is the same surgeon that did the 1st fusion. And he did a great job

the first time. But, I cannot afford to take the time off for the

recovery and pay for the insurance while I am off. So I have been

looking for alternatives to the surgery. I would also rather not lose

any more mobility in my neck.

I still work every day. I am a retail manager so it is doable. But I

am on restriction for raising my arms above the shoulder and heavy

lifting. My employer has been very understanding to this point and I

consider myself fortunate.

I have checked into laser surgery, but was turned down by my insurance

because of some deal of it being in Florida and Michigan will not

accept their insurance forms. I also found some bad press on the

place as well.

So here I am.... still looking for answers and forwarding what I find

to ya'll. I guess I should have introduced myself before I posted.

But I have been lurking for sometime and failed to do so.

I do not take any pain medications beyond ibuprofen. I am allergic to

opiates and would rather find another way.

Thanks for letting me ramble

Vikki Lynn

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I think the only reason I was able to do that was because I was still in shock

and not really

aware of what I was doing. I realized it was way too far forward and just

pushed it back where

it belonged. I was feeling the pain but not like I did later when the

adrenaline faded.... lol

Vikki Lynn

Re: hi

Vikki,

I'm still in awe at you putting your own shoulder back in place at the scene

of the accident!

I don't have any advice for you, cause I've not had any procedures done yet. i

just wanted to say hello.

You're in the right place, these guys have a lot of answers.

Dee

vikkilynn2006 <vikkilynn@...> wrote:

I guess ya'll are wondering who the heck I am. I joined this group a

few months ago. I have been lurking in the background all this time,

hoping for information to help myself. At the same time, looking

around other places for help.

12 years ago I had a cervical fusion, C5-6. After about 6-8 weeks of

recovery I was good to go. Nearly pain free and again totally

functional.

This past May I had a bike accident and went into the ditch. I had

dislocated my shoulder and and put it back myself at the accident. I

was then taken to the hospital and x-rayed, and put into a sling.

Upon follow up doctors appointments the shoulder healed, but wad not

feeling better. They did an MRI of the neck and found I again have

DDD, ruptured disc, bone spurs and a forminal narrowing of the spinal

column. The neurosurgeon wants to do another fusion of C6-7. Now this

is the same surgeon that did the 1st fusion. And he did a great job

the first time. But, I cannot afford to take the time off for the

recovery and pay for the insurance while I am off. So I have been

looking for alternatives to the surgery. I would also rather not lose

any more mobility in my neck.

I still work every day. I am a retail manager so it is doable. But I

am on restriction for raising my arms above the shoulder and heavy

lifting. My employer has been very understanding to this point and I

consider myself fortunate.

I have checked into laser surgery, but was turned down by my insurance

because of some deal of it being in Florida and Michigan will not

accept their insurance forms. I also found some bad press on the

place as well.

So here I am.... still looking for answers and forwarding what I find

to ya'll. I guess I should have introduced myself before I posted.

But I have been lurking for sometime and failed to do so.

I do not take any pain medications beyond ibuprofen. I am allergic to

opiates and would rather find another way.

Thanks for letting me ramble

Vikki Lynn

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You could be a contestant on one of those survival shows! LOL

Good luck with the lingering problems.

Dee

Vikki <vikkilynn@...> wrote:

I think the only reason I was able to do that was because I was still

in shock and not really

aware of what I was doing. I realized it was way too far forward and just pushed

it back where

it belonged. I was feeling the pain but not like I did later when the adrenaline

faded.... lol

Vikki Lynn

Re: hi

Vikki,

I'm still in awe at you putting your own shoulder back in place at the scene of

the accident!

I don't have any advice for you, cause I've not had any procedures done yet. i

just wanted to say hello.

You're in the right place, these guys have a lot of answers.

Dee

vikkilynn2006 <vikkilynn@...> wrote:

I guess ya'll are wondering who the heck I am. I joined this group a

few months ago. I have been lurking in the background all this time,

hoping for information to help myself. At the same time, looking

around other places for help.

12 years ago I had a cervical fusion, C5-6. After about 6-8 weeks of

recovery I was good to go. Nearly pain free and again totally

functional.

This past May I had a bike accident and went into the ditch. I had

dislocated my shoulder and and put it back myself at the accident. I

was then taken to the hospital and x-rayed, and put into a sling.

Upon follow up doctors appointments the shoulder healed, but wad not

feeling better. They did an MRI of the neck and found I again have

DDD, ruptured disc, bone spurs and a forminal narrowing of the spinal

column. The neurosurgeon wants to do another fusion of C6-7. Now this

is the same surgeon that did the 1st fusion. And he did a great job

the first time. But, I cannot afford to take the time off for the

recovery and pay for the insurance while I am off. So I have been

looking for alternatives to the surgery. I would also rather not lose

any more mobility in my neck.

I still work every day. I am a retail manager so it is doable. But I

am on restriction for raising my arms above the shoulder and heavy

lifting. My employer has been very understanding to this point and I

consider myself fortunate.

I have checked into laser surgery, but was turned down by my insurance

because of some deal of it being in Florida and Michigan will not

accept their insurance forms. I also found some bad press on the

place as well.

So here I am.... still looking for answers and forwarding what I find

to ya'll. I guess I should have introduced myself before I posted.

But I have been lurking for sometime and failed to do so.

I do not take any pain medications beyond ibuprofen. I am allergic to

opiates and would rather find another way.

Thanks for letting me ramble

Vikki Lynn

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

You could be a contestant on one of those survival shows! LOL

Good luck with the lingering problems.

Dee

Vikki <vikkilynn@...> wrote:

I think the only reason I was able to do that was because I was still

in shock and not really

aware of what I was doing. I realized it was way too far forward and just pushed

it back where

it belonged. I was feeling the pain but not like I did later when the adrenaline

faded.... lol

Vikki Lynn

Re: hi

Vikki,

I'm still in awe at you putting your own shoulder back in place at the scene of

the accident!

I don't have any advice for you, cause I've not had any procedures done yet. i

just wanted to say hello.

You're in the right place, these guys have a lot of answers.

Dee

vikkilynn2006 <vikkilynn@...> wrote:

I guess ya'll are wondering who the heck I am. I joined this group a

few months ago. I have been lurking in the background all this time,

hoping for information to help myself. At the same time, looking

around other places for help.

12 years ago I had a cervical fusion, C5-6. After about 6-8 weeks of

recovery I was good to go. Nearly pain free and again totally

functional.

This past May I had a bike accident and went into the ditch. I had

dislocated my shoulder and and put it back myself at the accident. I

was then taken to the hospital and x-rayed, and put into a sling.

Upon follow up doctors appointments the shoulder healed, but wad not

feeling better. They did an MRI of the neck and found I again have

DDD, ruptured disc, bone spurs and a forminal narrowing of the spinal

column. The neurosurgeon wants to do another fusion of C6-7. Now this

is the same surgeon that did the 1st fusion. And he did a great job

the first time. But, I cannot afford to take the time off for the

recovery and pay for the insurance while I am off. So I have been

looking for alternatives to the surgery. I would also rather not lose

any more mobility in my neck.

I still work every day. I am a retail manager so it is doable. But I

am on restriction for raising my arms above the shoulder and heavy

lifting. My employer has been very understanding to this point and I

consider myself fortunate.

I have checked into laser surgery, but was turned down by my insurance

because of some deal of it being in Florida and Michigan will not

accept their insurance forms. I also found some bad press on the

place as well.

So here I am.... still looking for answers and forwarding what I find

to ya'll. I guess I should have introduced myself before I posted.

But I have been lurking for sometime and failed to do so.

I do not take any pain medications beyond ibuprofen. I am allergic to

opiates and would rather find another way.

Thanks for letting me ramble

Vikki Lynn

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This list has a huge archive of previous posts, as well as a link

section to interesting websites.

Alobar

On 2/13/07, ab pafecine <osellove@...> wrote:

> i really want to know much on this coconut forum, it is only just about the

oil you get from the coconut or if there are more to it than that and i will

like to know the processes of the extraction of oil from coconut. thanks ab

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group,

Barbara

I just joined the coconut oil open forum after ordering some vco last night from

Tropical Traditions. My ex-daughter-in-law, who is the head nurse of the local

home health agency told me last week that vco was good for treating

heartburn/indigestion which I had just been to the Dr. for even though I have

been taking Prevacid for several years. The Prevacid did a good job until

recently and now I am on Prevacid and Zantac, but still suffering with the

indigestion problem. I have just started reading the forum with message # 1, so

you know how far I have to go!!! Does anybody have a testimony about vco

helping with the heartburn/indigestion problem? My husband is VERY interested in

knowing if there is a chance that it might help with joint pain. We both have

arthritis and he has a big problem with both his big toes hurting like crazy.

Just recently, my right big toe has become painful. Mine is painful on the

bottom and his is on the top.

Sorry for the length of this introductory message. I am glad to have found the

group and look forward to the new things I will learn! If anyone has any links

about vco and the symptoms I mentioned above, please send them to me or post

them in the appropriate place on the board. Thank you very much and I look

forward to hearing from some of you.

in GA

My God I sit Beneath Thee

My Little Child Upon My Knee

My Little Child Looks Up To Me

And I Look Up To Thee

[Guest guest]

Oh, , it's sure a good thing you asked about acid reflux.

To my knowledge, VCO doesn't help with heartburn. I hadn't heard

that. I also haven't heard if it does anything for arthritis.

But I'm sure someone else on this board will know more and let you

know. I know there's a book called " The Coconut Miracle, " I think.

Check Amazon for it.

But I DO know what will help " cure " your acid reflux....

Apple Cider Vinegar

And you need to get the organic version of it. Bragg's makes the

best, I've heard. I recently found some at Whole Foods market, and

it takes a lot better than the cheaper, processed version I

originally bought.

But, right after Xmas, I was having a LOT of trouble with what the

doctor THOUGHT was acid reflux disease. He prescribed Prilosec, of

course. It didn't do ANYTHING for me--waste of my limited funds.

But when I did a search on the web, I found a website that has all

kinds of natural remedies, and it has postings from all kinds of

people who have been helped by Apple Cider Vinegar. But, darn it, I

can't remember the exact name of the site, and I couldn't find it in

my " favorites " folder. Sorry.

But a quick search on Google will pull it up. I think it has the

word " earth " in the name, like " Earth Clinic, " or something.

Basically, take about 8 ounces of water and add 2 tablespoons of

Apple Cider Vinegar, then add 1/4 teaspoon of Baking Soda. It will

fizz a bit. You want to stir it until the fizz stops. Then, drink

up!

The reason you add the baking soda, is to make the 5% acidic ACV a

little less acidic, closer to about 7%, which is more alkaline,

which is what you need to stop the excess acid production in your

stomach.

Drugs such as Prilosec and Prevacid--I've read from reliable sources-

-will actually reduce TOO MUCH ACID, and that's not good for your

stomach. Same thing with Zantac and others like it--Rolaids, Tums,

etc.

I hate the taste of ACV, so I add a packet of powdered Stevia, to

sweeten it, some. It still doesn't taste so great, but it's

better. Some people add it to other types of drinks (non-alcoholic,

of course), to help cover the taste.

When I tried it for the first time, my very painful heartburn went

away soon after, almost like magic.

And every time I've used it since, it works. I no longer use

Rolaids or anything. I just drink a glass of ACV and baking soda.

And the indigestion starts to go away with the first gulp. I tend

to gulp it down quick, because I don't like the taste.

But you know the old belief about " medicine, " " if it tastes bad, it

must be good for you. "

Think Nyquil. Yuck! My grandmother gave me some of that stuff,

once, when I was a kid, and it tasted A-W-F-U-L! Needless to say,

I've never used it since.

Check your grocer's healthfood department, or go to a health food

store, such as Trader Joe's or Whole Foods, and look for Bragg's

Apple Cider Vinegar. It's supposed to be the best.

So give it a try. If it works for you, like it has for me, and a

lot of other people, then I'm sure it will be a lot less expensive

of a " treatment " for you. And it will also have a lot less

potential side effects--like none--except for the not-so-great taste.

I wish I knew a good recommendation for your husband's joint pain,

but I don't.

I DO know that my mother's arthritic shoulder was " cured " by a lot

of vitamin C. She read it in a " natural remedy " book, years ago.

So she started taking 1000, 2000, 3000, then 4000, PER DAY, under

the pain in her shoulder started going away. Then she kept it

there, until her health went down from her diabetes, and other

problems going on. But her arthritis NEVER did come back.

So you could do a search for that on the web, and see if you can

find any information about that.

Are you sure your BIG toes hurting is caused by arthritis?

Do you have any trouble with your sciatic nerve?

Years ago, I badly pinched my sciatic nerve, which runs down the

spine to the big toe on the left leg, and my big toe would hurt.

I finally went to the ER when the pain in my hip and leg were the

worst. I couldn't sit, and I couldn't stand. Nothing helped. It

just felt like my hip and leg were on fire.

The ER doc was able to pinpoint the problem real quick. He asked if

my big toe hurt, and I, surprised by the question, said " yes! "

He said that even though the pinched nerve is in your back, the pain

will manifest in your left leg, down to the big toe.

So he told me to put an ice pack on my back for like a half hour at

a time, and take a high dose he prescribed of Motrin.

It worked wonderfully.

I don't know if that could be your problem. I've never heard of

arthritis in the big toe, but I'm not a doctor, and who knows what

all arthritis can affect.

Hope the ACV helps your indigestion, as it did mine.

Let us know.

Cryss

-- In Coconut Oil , " Cranford "

<psc1436@...> wrote:

>

> I just joined the coconut oil open forum after ordering some vco

last night from Tropical Traditions. My ex-daughter-in-law, who is

the head nurse of the local home health agency told me last week

that vco was good for treating heartburn/indigestion which I had

just been to the Dr. for even though I have been taking Prevacid for

several years. The Prevacid did a good job until recently and now I

am on Prevacid and Zantac, but still suffering with the indigestion

problem. I have just started reading the forum with message # 1, so

you know how far I have to go!!! Does anybody have a testimony

about vco helping with the heartburn/indigestion problem? My husband

is VERY interested in knowing if there is a chance that it might

help with joint pain. We both have arthritis and he has a big

problem with both his big toes hurting like crazy. Just recently, my

right big toe has become painful. Mine is painful on the bottom and

his is on the top.

>

> Sorry for the length of this introductory message. I am glad to

have found the group and look forward to the new things I will

learn! If anyone has any links about vco and the symptoms I

mentioned above, please send them to me or post them in the

appropriate place on the board. Thank you very much and I look

forward to hearing from some of you.

>

> in GA

>

> My God I sit Beneath Thee

> My Little Child Upon My Knee

> My Little Child Looks Up To Me

> And I Look Up To Thee

>

>

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I will second this motion. Organic Apple Cider Vinegar(OACV) is the worlds

best kept secret.

It not only works on acid reflux, It has cured my lifelong battle with chronic

sinus infections. Then I added a bit of cayenne pepper to it, and my arthritis

pain is gone as well as some serious hemorrhoid troubles !!! Between VCO,

OACV, Kefir and Kombucha, Im feeling pretty chipper again.

Huggs

zoe

Tuesday, February 27, 2007, 6:20:22 PM, you wrote:

> Oh, , it's sure a good thing you asked about acid reflux.

> To my knowledge, VCO doesn't help with heartburn. I hadn't heard

> that. I also haven't heard if it does anything for arthritis.

> But I'm sure someone else on this board will know more and let you

> know. I know there's a book called " The Coconut Miracle, " I think.

> Check Amazon for it.

> But I DO know what will help " cure " your acid reflux....

> Apple Cider Vinegar

> And you need to get the organic version of it. Bragg's makes the

> best, I've heard. I recently found some at Whole Foods market, and

> it takes a lot better than the cheaper, processed version I

> originally bought.

> But, right after Xmas, I was having a LOT of trouble with what the

> doctor THOUGHT was acid reflux disease. He prescribed Prilosec, of

> course. It didn't do ANYTHING for me--waste of my limited funds.

> But when I did a search on the web, I found a website that has all

> kinds of natural remedies, and it has postings from all kinds of

> people who have been helped by Apple Cider Vinegar. But, darn it, I

> can't remember the exact name of the site, and I couldn't find it in

> my " favorites " folder. Sorry.

> But a quick search on Google will pull it up. I think it has the

> word " earth " in the name, like " Earth Clinic, " or something.

> Basically, take about 8 ounces of water and add 2 tablespoons of

> Apple Cider Vinegar, then add 1/4 teaspoon of Baking Soda. It will

> fizz a bit. You want to stir it until the fizz stops. Then, drink

> up!

> The reason you add the baking soda, is to make the 5% acidic ACV a

> little less acidic, closer to about 7%, which is more alkaline,

> which is what you need to stop the excess acid production in your

> stomach.

> Drugs such as Prilosec and Prevacid--I've read from reliable sources-

> -will actually reduce TOO MUCH ACID, and that's not good for your

> stomach. Same thing with Zantac and others like it--Rolaids, Tums,

> etc.

> I hate the taste of ACV, so I add a packet of powdered Stevia, to

> sweeten it, some. It still doesn't taste so great, but it's

> better. Some people add it to other types of drinks (non-alcoholic,

> of course), to help cover the taste.

> When I tried it for the first time, my very painful heartburn went

> away soon after, almost like magic.

> And every time I've used it since, it works. I no longer use

> Rolaids or anything. I just drink a glass of ACV and baking soda.

> And the indigestion starts to go away with the first gulp. I tend

> to gulp it down quick, because I don't like the taste.

> But you know the old belief about " medicine, " " if it tastes bad, it

> must be good for you. "

> Think Nyquil. Yuck! My grandmother gave me some of that stuff,

> once, when I was a kid, and it tasted A-W-F-U-L! Needless to say,

> I've never used it since.

> Check your grocer's healthfood department, or go to a health food

> store, such as Trader Joe's or Whole Foods, and look for Bragg's

> Apple Cider Vinegar. It's supposed to be the best.

> So give it a try. If it works for you, like it has for me, and a

> lot of other people, then I'm sure it will be a lot less expensive

> of a " treatment " for you. And it will also have a lot less

> potential side effects--like none--except for the not-so-great taste.

> I wish I knew a good recommendation for your husband's joint pain,

> but I don't.

> I DO know that my mother's arthritic shoulder was " cured " by a lot

> of vitamin C. She read it in a " natural remedy " book, years ago.

> So she started taking 1000, 2000, 3000, then 4000, PER DAY, under

> the pain in her shoulder started going away. Then she kept it

> there, until her health went down from her diabetes, and other

> problems going on. But her arthritis NEVER did come back.

> So you could do a search for that on the web, and see if you can

> find any information about that.

> Are you sure your BIG toes hurting is caused by arthritis?

> Do you have any trouble with your sciatic nerve?

> Years ago, I badly pinched my sciatic nerve, which runs down the

> spine to the big toe on the left leg, and my big toe would hurt.

> I finally went to the ER when the pain in my hip and leg were the

> worst. I couldn't sit, and I couldn't stand. Nothing helped. It

> just felt like my hip and leg were on fire.

> The ER doc was able to pinpoint the problem real quick. He asked if

> my big toe hurt, and I, surprised by the question, said " yes! "

> He said that even though the pinched nerve is in your back, the pain

> will manifest in your left leg, down to the big toe.

> So he told me to put an ice pack on my back for like a half hour at

> a time, and take a high dose he prescribed of Motrin.

> It worked wonderfully.

> I don't know if that could be your problem. I've never heard of

> arthritis in the big toe, but I'm not a doctor, and who knows what

> all arthritis can affect.

> Hope the ACV helps your indigestion, as it did mine.

> Let us know.

> Cryss

> -- In Coconut Oil , " Cranford "

> <psc1436@...> wrote:

>> I just joined the coconut oil open forum after ordering some vco

> last night from Tropical Traditions. My ex-daughter-in-law, who is

> the head nurse of the local home health agency told me last week

> that vco was good for treating heartburn/indigestion which I had

> just been to the Dr. for even though I have been taking Prevacid for

> several years. The Prevacid did a good job until recently and now I

> am on Prevacid and Zantac, but still suffering with the indigestion

> problem. I have just started reading the forum with message # 1, so

> you know how far I have to go!!! Does anybody have a testimony

> about vco helping with the heartburn/indigestion problem? My husband

> is VERY interested in knowing if there is a chance that it might

> help with joint pain. We both have arthritis and he has a big

> problem with both his big toes hurting like crazy. Just recently, my

> right big toe has become painful. Mine is painful on the bottom and

> his is on the top.

>>

>> Sorry for the length of this introductory message. I am glad to

> have found the group and look forward to the new things I will

> learn! If anyone has any links about vco and the symptoms I

> mentioned above, please send them to me or post them in the

> appropriate place on the board. Thank you very much and I look

> forward to hearing from some of you.

>> in GA

>> My God I sit Beneath Thee

>> My Little Child Upon My Knee

>> My Little Child Looks Up To Me

>> And I Look Up To Thee

>>

[Guest guest]

There is a recipe on the side of the bottle.

Simply dilute 1-2 TBSP in 8 oz of water, add maple syrup or honey or stevia

to taste. I have this cocktail every morning when i first get up. Of course

now I add the cayenne pepper to the mixture. I also carry some to work with

me to sip on throughout the day about 2 oz at a time. Be sure to always

follow with an equal amount of plain water.

Arthritis pain was gone in 3 days.

Sinus was noticeably being affected immediately, took a month or so to

completely clear it out. Took longer for the rhoids, but did notice

improvement after one week.

There are many many other benefits from the vinegar, do a search and read

what others have to say about it. Im happy with the results I got.

And yes this is part of my regular health regimen now

The kefir you buy in the stores is not real kefir- I make my own with kefir

grains.

Essentially, its a fermentation of milk ( similar to yoghurt-but with many more

probiotics)

http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html

Kombucha is yet another probiotic drink that dates back many hundreds of years

in Eurasia.

It is a fermented tea/sugar base that tastes very much like apple cider and

will turn to vinegar if you leave it ferment too long. It also affords many

many health benefits.

Huggs

zoe

Tuesday, February 27, 2007, 7:32:58 PM, you wrote:

> Zoe, how much ACV did you (or still use?) use to " cure " your sinus

> infections and your arthritis pain? And hemorrhoids? That sounds

> like it has worked pretty well for you.

> It is the " world's best kept secret. "

> And can you tell me what kefir is and what it does? I don't

> remember what I read about it. But our store has 3 different yummy-

> sounding flavors I want to try.

> And what is Kombucha?

> Huggs to you, too!

> Cryss

>

>> >> I just joined the coconut oil open forum after ordering some

> vco

>> > last night from Tropical Traditions. My ex-daughter-in-law, who

> is

>> > the head nurse of the local home health agency told me last week

>> > that vco was good for treating heartburn/indigestion which I had

>> > just been to the Dr. for even though I have been taking Prevacid

> for

>> > several years. The Prevacid did a good job until recently and

> now I

>> > am on Prevacid and Zantac, but still suffering with the

> indigestion

>> > problem. I have just started reading the forum with message # 1,

> so

>> > you know how far I have to go!!! Does anybody have a testimony

>> > about vco helping with the heartburn/indigestion problem? My

> husband

>> > is VERY interested in knowing if there is a chance that it might

>> > help with joint pain. We both have arthritis and he has a big

>> > problem with both his big toes hurting like crazy. Just

> recently, my

>> > right big toe has become painful. Mine is painful on the bottom

> and

>> > his is on the top.

>> >>

>> >> Sorry for the length of this introductory message. I am glad to

>> > have found the group and look forward to the new things I will

>> > learn! If anyone has any links about vco and the symptoms I

>> > mentioned above, please send them to me or post them in the

>> > appropriate place on the board. Thank you very much and I look

>> > forward to hearing from some of you.

>> >> in GA

>> >> My God I sit Beneath Thee

>> >> My Little Child Upon My Knee

>> >> My Little Child Looks Up To Me

>> >> And I Look Up To Thee

>> >>

[Guest guest]

I'm not Zoe Cryss, but I can tell you about kefir and kombucha. Kefir is the

fermented milk that needs a starter of kefir grains to work on milk for 24

hours. The result is a sour, tangy drink and I make a smoothie out of it every

morning for breakfast. I make my kefir from raw Jersey milk and add raw egg and

stirr it hard then add 8 drops of stevia to make it a little sweeter. I like it

that way. It is great for your digestion just like any other fermented foods.

It adds a beneficial bacteria in your digestive system.

Kombucha is a tea that is fermented with a " mushroom " that is not a mushroom but

a bacteria cake. You leave it on the counter for 10 to 14 days and it also is

tangy. You drink it like that. I'm sure a little stevia would improve the

taste but I like it the way it is.

ACV also is very beneficial and like you said world's best kept secret. It

improves digestion and is good for many other things.

Barbara

Zoe, how much ACV did you (or still use?) use to " cure " your sinus

infections and your arthritis pain? And hemorrhoids? That sounds

like it has worked pretty well for you.

It is the " world's best kept secret. "

And can you tell me what kefir is and what it does? I don't

remember what I read about it. But our store has 3 different yummy-

sounding flavors I want to try.

And what is Kombucha?

Huggs to you, too!

Cryss

[Guest guest]

How did you clear your sinus problem? That would be a dream come

true.

Didi

>

> I will second this motion. Organic Apple Cider Vinegar(OACV) is

the worlds best kept secret.

> It not only works on acid reflux, It has cured my lifelong battle

with chronic sinus infections. Then I added a bit of cayenne pepper

to it, and my arthritis pain is gone as well as some serious

hemorrhoid troubles !!! Between VCO, OACV, Kefir and Kombucha,

Im feeling pretty chipper again.

> Huggs

> zoe

>

[Guest guest]

I use a mixture of plain old black tea and some green tea(Jasmine) am

planning on branching out to use some other types of teas, just not got around

to it yet.

Huggs, zoe

Wednesday, February 28, 2007, 6:13:05 AM, you wrote:

>

> Zoe,

> I was wondering what a SCOBY was. I keep hearing it mentioned on the

> Kefir site, and now i know.

> What sort of tea do you use?

> I use OACV too, only a dash though, i think i will increase it to 2

> tablespoons after what you said. I have sinus and aches and pains,

> don't know if it is arthritis or not.

> Might give the Kombucha a try some time.

>

[Guest guest]

oh, jeannie! how very frustrating! i am so sorry.

i hope the discomfort is very temporary and will heal itself for you.

carol

hi

hi all,

Have just come back from my spinal surgeon, due to my car accident, I have

some bulging through my C3-5, just above where my neck fusion was done in July.

I am so depressed, my neck had been healing so well, I was getting my strength

back in my arms and hands because he had removed the bone spurs and pinched

nerves, and along comes some Ethiopian chick who didn't want to follow US

driving rules, was new to the country and was supposed to have a licensed driver

with her-she only had a permit, plus, she tried to do a hit and run. Now I don't

know if there will be enough medical to pay for all this care that I need. I

need 2 months of PT, have had a cervical MRI, he wants me to have a spinal MRI,

plus that painful nerve conductivity test, plus maybe have an anaesthesialogist

put cortisone in my neck. I have to talk to my lawyer as to who pays what when

my medical runs out. i only had the minimum on my car, just thought I didn't

need it I guess, or didn't understand why I

needed more. i will be upping it when it comes for renewal, it wasn't

explained well to me, and I have a 10 year old car. I'll be asking a lot more

questions from now on. She did have a minimum amount of insurance at least, but

my neck was almost 100% healed until she did this. Now I'm back to drs, tests,

and more discomfort. I won't get hardly anything for my settlement, lawyer takes

33%. My car will be fixed in a week, at least I get to drive a new car for that

time, and that's a pleasure over driving a 10 year old car. If this chick had

only obeyed the laws of this country, this wouldn't have happened. I can't even

lift things i had regained the strength to lift before. I'm so mad I could

spit!! I take one step forward, then two steps back. I guess I have to get over

it. Thanks for letting me rant and rave, I am just so stressed, and tired---

Jeannie

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[Guest guest]

oh, jeannie! how very frustrating! i am so sorry.

i hope the discomfort is very temporary and will heal itself for you.

carol

hi

hi all,

Have just come back from my spinal surgeon, due to my car accident, I have

some bulging through my C3-5, just above where my neck fusion was done in July.

I am so depressed, my neck had been healing so well, I was getting my strength

back in my arms and hands because he had removed the bone spurs and pinched

nerves, and along comes some Ethiopian chick who didn't want to follow US

driving rules, was new to the country and was supposed to have a licensed driver

with her-she only had a permit, plus, she tried to do a hit and run. Now I don't

know if there will be enough medical to pay for all this care that I need. I

need 2 months of PT, have had a cervical MRI, he wants me to have a spinal MRI,

plus that painful nerve conductivity test, plus maybe have an anaesthesialogist

put cortisone in my neck. I have to talk to my lawyer as to who pays what when

my medical runs out. i only had the minimum on my car, just thought I didn't

need it I guess, or didn't understand why I

needed more. i will be upping it when it comes for renewal, it wasn't

explained well to me, and I have a 10 year old car. I'll be asking a lot more

questions from now on. She did have a minimum amount of insurance at least, but

my neck was almost 100% healed until she did this. Now I'm back to drs, tests,

and more discomfort. I won't get hardly anything for my settlement, lawyer takes

33%. My car will be fixed in a week, at least I get to drive a new car for that

time, and that's a pleasure over driving a 10 year old car. If this chick had

only obeyed the laws of this country, this wouldn't have happened. I can't even

lift things i had regained the strength to lift before. I'm so mad I could

spit!! I take one step forward, then two steps back. I guess I have to get over

it. Thanks for letting me rant and rave, I am just so stressed, and tired---

Jeannie

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[Guest guest]

-Ahhhhhh Jeannie I am so sorry to hear about all of this. I would

think SHE should be paying for all of your medical bills. Did she

have insurance? if so her insurance company should pick up ALL of

your bills. Thats what we had to do when my daughter hit someone and

she had some neck problems. I would think your insurance company

would push hers to get the bills off of themselves, they usually LOVE

to let someone else pay for things. And since it was not your fault

you should not have to hassle with all of this. Why does your dr want

to do a spinal MRI ?? does he think there are more problems lower ??

I am surprised they didn't want to do a CAT Scan with dye to see

exactly what is going on in there. Thats what I had done.Maybe just

maybe the bulging will go down, its possible and your neck may heal

itself with time. But I know you must be so frustrated now because

you were healing so well from your surgery before. Thats the bad

thing about having a bad neck and back anything can mess it up so

easily. Take care and I will keep you in my prayers. Sharon

-- In neck pain , Abbott

<jeannieboo1@...> wrote:

>

> hi all,

> Have just come back from my spinal surgeon, due to my car accident,

I have some bulging through my C3-5, just above where my neck fusion

was done in July. I am so depressed, my neck had been healing so

well, I was getting my strength back in my arms and hands because he

had removed the bone spurs and pinched nerves, and along comes some

Ethiopian chick who didn't want to follow US driving rules, was new

to the country and was supposed to have a licensed driver with her-

she only had a permit, plus, she tried to do a hit and run. Now I

don't know if there will be enough medical to pay for all this care

that I need. I need 2 months of PT, have had a cervical MRI, he wants

me to have a spinal MRI, plus that painful nerve conductivity test,

plus maybe have an anaesthesialogist put cortisone in my neck. I have

to talk to my lawyer as to who pays what when my medical runs out. i

only had the minimum on my car, just thought I didn't need it I

guess, or didn't understand why I

> needed more. i will be upping it when it comes for renewal, it

wasn't explained well to me, and I have a 10 year old car. I'll be

asking a lot more questions from now on. She did have a minimum

amount of insurance at least, but my neck was almost 100% healed

until she did this. Now I'm back to drs, tests, and more discomfort.

I won't get hardly anything for my settlement, lawyer takes 33%. My

car will be fixed in a week, at least I get to drive a new car for

that time, and that's a pleasure over driving a 10 year old car. If

this chick had only obeyed the laws of this country, this wouldn't

have happened. I can't even lift things i had regained the strength

to lift before. I'm so mad I could spit!! I take one step forward,

then two steps back. I guess I have to get over it. Thanks for

letting me rant and rave, I am just so stressed, and tired---

>

>

> Jeannie

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

-Ahhhhhh Jeannie I am so sorry to hear about all of this. I would

think SHE should be paying for all of your medical bills. Did she

have insurance? if so her insurance company should pick up ALL of

your bills. Thats what we had to do when my daughter hit someone and

she had some neck problems. I would think your insurance company

would push hers to get the bills off of themselves, they usually LOVE

to let someone else pay for things. And since it was not your fault

you should not have to hassle with all of this. Why does your dr want

to do a spinal MRI ?? does he think there are more problems lower ??

I am surprised they didn't want to do a CAT Scan with dye to see

exactly what is going on in there. Thats what I had done.Maybe just

maybe the bulging will go down, its possible and your neck may heal

itself with time. But I know you must be so frustrated now because

you were healing so well from your surgery before. Thats the bad

thing about having a bad neck and back anything can mess it up so

easily. Take care and I will keep you in my prayers. Sharon

-- In neck pain , Abbott

<jeannieboo1@...> wrote:

>

> hi all,

> Have just come back from my spinal surgeon, due to my car accident,

I have some bulging through my C3-5, just above where my neck fusion

was done in July. I am so depressed, my neck had been healing so

well, I was getting my strength back in my arms and hands because he

had removed the bone spurs and pinched nerves, and along comes some

Ethiopian chick who didn't want to follow US driving rules, was new

to the country and was supposed to have a licensed driver with her-

she only had a permit, plus, she tried to do a hit and run. Now I

don't know if there will be enough medical to pay for all this care

that I need. I need 2 months of PT, have had a cervical MRI, he wants

me to have a spinal MRI, plus that painful nerve conductivity test,

plus maybe have an anaesthesialogist put cortisone in my neck. I have

to talk to my lawyer as to who pays what when my medical runs out. i

only had the minimum on my car, just thought I didn't need it I

guess, or didn't understand why I

> needed more. i will be upping it when it comes for renewal, it

wasn't explained well to me, and I have a 10 year old car. I'll be

asking a lot more questions from now on. She did have a minimum

amount of insurance at least, but my neck was almost 100% healed

until she did this. Now I'm back to drs, tests, and more discomfort.

I won't get hardly anything for my settlement, lawyer takes 33%. My

car will be fixed in a week, at least I get to drive a new car for

that time, and that's a pleasure over driving a 10 year old car. If

this chick had only obeyed the laws of this country, this wouldn't

have happened. I can't even lift things i had regained the strength

to lift before. I'm so mad I could spit!! I take one step forward,

then two steps back. I guess I have to get over it. Thanks for

letting me rant and rave, I am just so stressed, and tired---

>

>

> Jeannie

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

So sorry you are having to go through all of this.. Jeannie

Hugs, Babs

[Guest guest]

So sorry you are having to go through all of this.. Jeannie

Hugs, Babs

[Guest guest]

Hi !

I'm not diabetic, so I can't address that but for me, using coconut oil

has reduced my appetite and given me more energy.

Have you read some of the coconut oil websites? there's a lot of good

info on them. Here are a few:

http://www.mercola.com/2001/mar/24/coconut_oil.htm

http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/

http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/what_is_virgin_coconut_oil.htm

http://www.coconutoil.com/

I got some coconut oil from Wilderness Family, but it was very expensive. I

also ordered some from iherb.com which was lower priced and free shipping on

orders over $60. There are other places to order from too. The price in the

health food store in our area was way higher & they didn't have big jars.

Good luck! Let us know how you make out.

B

God Bless America!

One Nation Under God.

Hi

>I just joined this group & open for any info I can get on Coconut Oil. I am

>a diabetic, on insulin and pills. I don't control it very well. I have read

>that this oil is good for diabetics but have also heard it can be

>dangerous. Where would I purchase the oil? Health food store? Any advice or

>onformation would be greatly appreciated.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, . Do you mix it in food?

Hi

>I just joined this group & open for any info I can get on Coconut Oil. I am

>a diabetic, on insulin and pills. I don't control it very well. I have read

>that this oil is good for diabetics but have also heard it can be

>dangerous. Where would I purchase the oil? Health food store? Any advice or

>onformation would be greatly appreciated.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

A friend of mine was diagnosed with type 2 diabeties, and the Nutritionist

told him that he was lucky that this is the one disease that can be controlled

by diet... The changes he made was adding a green salad with raw veggies,

exercise and his wife cooks with VCO, within 3 months he lost 30 lbs, his sugar

is pretty much under control... I keep telling him this is not a diet, it is a

life style change... once he got that mind set, it started working for him...

Also drinking pleanty of water with sea salt helps...

HippeeSandee

Rose <piggypo@...> wrote:

I just joined this group & open for any info I can get on Coconut Oil.

I am a diabetic, on insulin and pills. I don't control it very well. I have read

that this oil is good for diabetics but have also heard it can be dangerous.

Where would I purchase the oil? Health food store? Any advice or onformation

would be greatly appreciated.

[Guest guest]

Thank you. What is VCO?

Re: Hi

Hi

A friend of mine was diagnosed with type 2 diabeties, and the Nutritionist

told him that he was lucky that this is the one disease that can be controlled

by diet... The changes he made was adding a green salad with raw veggies,

exercise and his wife cooks with VCO, within 3 months he lost 30 lbs, his sugar

is pretty much under control... I keep telling him this is not a diet, it is a

life style change... once he got that mind set, it started working for him...

Also drinking pleanty of water with sea salt helps...

HippeeSandee

Rose <piggypo@...> wrote:

I just joined this group & open for any info I can get on Coconut Oil. I am a

diabetic, on insulin and pills. I don't control it very well. I have read that

this oil is good for diabetics but have also heard it can be dangerous. Where

would I purchase the oil? Health food store? Any advice or onformation would be

greatly appreciated.