Hi

[Guest guest]

I have had luck with it promoting a BM when I couldn't

and eventually cleaning out mucus, plaque and things

I never seen before. Look at our Homozon file.

Liz D

> [Original Message]

> From: Charlie Woodcock <charliewoodcock@...>

> <bowel cleanse >

> Date: 12/12/01 4:44:31 PM

> Subject: Re: Re: Hi

>

> Does anyone know what the product 'Homozon' is and has

> anyone had any luck with it?

>

> Anywhere on the web where there is information on it?

> Thanks, Charlie

[Guest guest]

Hi Lyn,

The Solar Plexus is the area right under your sternum. If you put your hand

right in the center of your chest and run it down, the first point where

you feel tenderness is the solar plexus.

I hope this helps.

God bless,

KJ

Re: Hi

> Whats a solar plexus?

[Guest guest]

-----Original Message-----

Does anyone know what the product 'Homozon' is and has

anyone had any luck with it?

Anywhere on the web where there is information on it?

Thanks, Charlie

-----------------

Hi Charlie, I noticed that several people sent in links for more info, so I

will be brief. Basically it is magnesium oxide with ozone bound to it which is

released when mixed with an acid catalyst and ingested. Acid, being lemon or

other citrus juice, pineapple juice, etc. It has a bowel cleansing effect,

which is actually considered a side benefit by the manufacturer. The real

purpose is to get the ozone/oxygen into the system, where it can do all the good

things that ozone/oxygen do. Kill cooties, like small parasite, candida and

bacteria and cleans the blood and increases energy, etc. Some have used homozon

exclusively to mend from serious illnesses.

Hope this helps,

You can contact me off list for more info.

Donna

ruthful@...

[Guest guest]

HI KATHY,

POSTING LASTE FOR YOUR RESPONSE....(SORRY)

THEY DID A LOT OF BLOOD WORK AGAIN A FEW DAYS AGO, CHECKING FOR HE PANCREAS ENYZEMES WAS ONE OF THEM----NORMAL....

SO I AM STILL "A GUINEA PIG UNDER CONSTRUCTION"

STILL IN SO MUCH PAIN.

I STARTED MY 2 NEW MEDS. THIS PAST SAT. I FELT A SMALL AMOUNT OF RELIEF FROM THE IBS MED, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, NOT WORKING WELL, EXCEPT MAKING MY SLEEPY!!

I MANAGED TO MAKE IT TO THE IN-LAWS ON SUNDAY, I WAS TAKING ALL MY NEW DRUGS....AND THEY MAKE ME VERY DROWSEY, SO I GOT THROUGH IT,

THOUGH.....THE NEXT MORNING I WAS IN MISERY....AND TODAY WAS EVEN WORSE. I HURT SO BAD, AND ITS NOT GETTING BETTER....I CAN'T STAND SITTING AT MY COMPUTER, BUT I REFUSE TO SIGN OFF!! AND I DON'T WANT TO LET MY E-MAILS GET TO THE HUNDREDS..., SO HERE I AM!!! PLUS I WANT VERY MUCH TO STAY IN TOUCH WITH YOU ALL!! YOU ALL ARE MY LIFE-LINE RIGHT NOW!!!

MY MEDICATIONS:

SYNTHROID 125MCG AND ACIPHEX 20MG-(FIRST IN THE MORNING)

(HAS TO BE ON EMPTY STOMACH).

THEN, 2 HOURS LATER, 20MG OF PREDNISONE AND 2 IBS PILLS-(CLIDINIUM/CDP)(ON FULL STOMACH)......this script says to take 1 or 2

capsuls, four times a day, but the doc said to start with (4)

2 morn/...2/ nite.(DOESN'T SHOW THE STRENTGH; WEIRD)

THEN I TAKE, AMITRIPTYLINE HCL 25MG 1 OR 2 TABS AT BED TIME(SO I CAN SLEEP I GUESS! HA!) I AM ONLY STARTING WITH 1, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE AN ALLERGIC REACTION EPIDSODE.....I AM SO AFRAID OF TO

TAKING THIS MANY MEDS. I AM SO PRONE TO HAVING A REACTION TO

NEW MEDS.

..

I KNOW MANY OF YOU TAKE MORE THAN THAT, BUT IT SOMEWHAT DEPRESSES ME TO HAVE TO REMEMBER ALL THESE, AND TO TAKE AT THE SAME TIME TOO.....

GOSH! I JUST HAVE SO MUCH TO DO EVERYDAY, I JUST DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS GARBAGE!!!! (I feel better now!

ITS CHALLENGING TO REMEMBER ALL THESE MEDS. LET'S SEE, AS OF RIGHT NOW, I AM TAKING, 9 PILLS A DAY. IF THE PREDNISONE ELEVATES MY SUGAR, THEN THATS ANOTHER 2 A DAY!

WELL, THATS MY UPDATE, AND VENT FOR TODAY!!

I WOULD HAVE TO VENT ON CHRISTMAS HUH??? (sorry)

HOPE YOU ALL ARE HAVING A GREAT DAY!!

THINKING OF YOU ALL!!!

**HAPPY**HOLIDAYS**

**AND WARM HUGS**

Bert.

Dear Bert:

Let me know how it goes with your doctor appointment today. I hope that he'll do some comprehensive blood work for you. Tell him that you know of a woman that has AIH that never had positive ANA or smooth muscle tests. Also, ask him if he can include a test for the pancreas in your blood work. It's called Amalayse (sp) and will show if you are having problems there. Pancreatitis can cause all the symptoms you're having, too. Good luck!

Seattle Kathy

[Guest guest]

BERT. SORRY YOU ARE STILL FEELING BAD. HOPEFULLY YOUR NEW MEDICINE WILL KICK IN AND YOU WILL START FEELING BETTER. I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO TAKE ALL THOSE MEDS, BUT WE GOT TO DO WHAT WE GOT TO DO. I HAVE TO TAKE 13, AND THERE ARE SOME DAYS THAT I JUST WANT TO WIPE MY COUNTER CLEAN OF ALL OF THEM. BUT OF COURSE I DON'T. IT ALWAYS SEEMS LIKE A TRIAL AND ERROR WHEN THEY GIVE YOU NEW MEDS TO TAKE. HOPEFULLY THEY FIND THE RIGHT ONES THE FIRST TIME AND YOUR UP AND ABOUT. I REALLY ENJOY SEEING YOUR POSTS SO DONT PLAN ON GOING ANYWHERE OR WE'LL HAVE TO TRACK YOU DOWN. LOL. ANN [ ] Fwd: hi HI KATHY,POSTING LASTE FOR YOUR RESPONSE....(SORRY)THEY DID A LOT OF BLOOD WORK AGAIN A FEW DAYS AGO, CHECKING FOR HE PANCREAS ENYZEMES WAS ONE OF THEM----NORMAL....SO I AM STILL "A GUINEA PIG UNDER CONSTRUCTION"STILL IN SO MUCH PAIN. I STARTED MY 2 NEW MEDS. THIS PAST SAT. I FELT A SMALL AMOUNT OF RELIEF FROM THE IBS MED, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, NOT WORKING WELL, EXCEPT MAKING MY SLEEPY!!I MANAGED TO MAKE IT TO THE IN-LAWS ON SUNDAY, I WAS TAKING ALL MY NEW DRUGS....AND THEY MAKE ME VERY DROWSEY, SO I GOT THROUGH IT, THOUGH.....THE NEXT MORNING I WAS IN MISERY....AND TODAY WAS EVEN WORSE. I HURT SO BAD, AND ITS NOT GETTING BETTER....I CAN'T STAND SITTING AT MY COMPUTER, BUT I REFUSE TO SIGN OFF!! AND I DON'T WANT TO LET MY E-MAILS GET TO THE HUNDREDS..., SO HERE I AM!!! PLUS I WANT VERY MUCH TO STAY IN TOUCH WITH YOU ALL!! YOU ALL ARE MY LIFE-LINE RIGHT NOW!!!MY MEDICATIONS:SYNTHROID 125MCG AND ACIPHEX 20MG-(FIRST IN THE MORNING)(HAS TO BE ON EMPTY STOMACH). THEN, 2 HOURS LATER, 20MG OF PREDNISONE AND 2 IBS PILLS-(CLIDINIUM/CDP)(ON FULL STOMACH)......this script says to take 1 or 2capsuls, four times a day, but the doc said to start with (4)2 morn/...2/ nite.(DOESN'T SHOW THE STRENTGH; WEIRD)THEN I TAKE, AMITRIPTYLINE HCL 25MG 1 OR 2 TABS AT BED TIME(SO I CAN SLEEP I GUESS! HA!) I AM ONLY STARTING WITH 1, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE AN ALLERGIC REACTION EPIDSODE.....I AM SO AFRAID OF TO TAKING THIS MANY MEDS. I AM SO PRONE TO HAVING A REACTION TONEW MEDS. .I KNOW MANY OF YOU TAKE MORE THAN THAT, BUT IT SOMEWHAT DEPRESSES ME TO HAVE TO REMEMBER ALL THESE, AND TO TAKE AT THE SAME TIME TOO.....GOSH! I JUST HAVE SO MUCH TO DO EVERYDAY, I JUST DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS GARBAGE!!!! (I feel better now! :)ITS CHALLENGING TO REMEMBER ALL THESE MEDS. LET'S SEE, AS OF RIGHT NOW, I AM TAKING, 9 PILLS A DAY. IF THE PREDNISONE ELEVATES MY SUGAR, THEN THATS ANOTHER 2 A DAY!WELL, THATS MY UPDATE, AND VENT FOR TODAY!!I WOULD HAVE TO VENT ON CHRISTMAS HUH??? (sorry)HOPE YOU ALL ARE HAVING A GREAT DAY!!THINKING OF YOU ALL!!! **HAPPY**HOLIDAYS** **AND WARM HUGS** Bert.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/25/01 8:14:09 PM Mountain Standard Time, sunshinedotson@... writes:

Bert,

THEN I TAKE, AMITRIPTYLINE HCL 25MG 1 OR 2 TABS AT BED TIME(SO I CAN SLEEP I GUESS! HA!) I AM ONLY STARTING WITH 1, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE AN ALLERGIC REACTION EPIDSODE.....I AM SO AFRAID OF TO

TAKING THIS MANY MEDS. I AM SO PRONE TO HAVING A REACTION TO

The Amtriptalyne is an anti depressant, a pain killer for the Fibro, and a sleeping pill. Don't be afraid the medicines. I have bad reactions to some of my meds but you get around them eventually. I take Nortriptalyne at 75mgs now and think I will up them to 100. I feel somewhat of my pain getting better but these types of drugs take time to build up and work. I take 30 pills a day and yes it can be stressful used to embarrass me not anymore. In order for me to live I don't care how it looks and my friends and family now understand this part. All the meds you are on take time so don't give up.

gayle/trans 6-99

galye@... q~q

^

[Guest guest]

Hi,

First of all I got Dr. Hulda 's book, " The Cure

For All Diseases " . If you look on the internet, you

can get it used... mine did not even look used and

cost only abut $8.00...

Then I did the Parasite cleanse ( page 338)

Then I did the kidney cleanse, page 549...

Soon I am going to have a " dental clean-up " (what I

am not happy about, but understand the necessity if I

want to get really healthy)

Finally, I plan to do the liver cleanse (page 552).

The passing of stones does not hurt at all.

As a matter of fact, I felt better and better. I had

serious health problems (typhoid fever, dysentery,

anemia, arthritis, chronic constipation, chronic

middle ear infections, hypothyroidism, etc)...

Ingrid

--- mnsdurham <MNSDurham@...> wrote:

> Hi I am new to all this. I have fibromyalgia,

> depression,

> hypothyroidism.

>

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

MNSDurham@... writes:

> I have been leaning toward fasting and cleansing but have never done

> it. I have started a product called " Parastroy " . I would love to hear

> advice on what to do first and what to do period!! Does it hurt to

> pass the stones?

>

Hi and welcome to the group! Should we call you " S. " ??

What kind of fast are you considering? How long have you been on Parastroy

and what kind of results (if any) are you seeing at this point?

As for passing gallstones - no it doesn't hurt at all.

There's a lot of great advice, information, shared experience etc... in the

archives and the testimonials. You might want to take some time to at least

scan through them (It would take a month to read them all, I think!) and get

some ideas of what other people have done.

What prompted you to start thinking about cleansing?

in health,

[Guest guest]

Roy, welcome to the list:-) Can I suggest you contact Jane ? She

comes from Ireland, and does marvellous work for people with SED and their

parents. She is actually famous around the world, and is the heart-throb of

one family in New Zealand! She is also the Irish Anchor woman for R.G.A;

organises and runs Irish conferences for which she is justifiably proud!

Try contacting her at littlejas19@... However, she is at university

at present, so give her a few days to reply.

Good luck

Fred

From: " Roy Cargill " <saxovtr41@...>

> Hi everybody, this is my first message to the group

> and would just like to introduce myself. My name is

> Roy and i am an 18 year old male from Scotland UK, I

> am 4'10 " with SEDc. If anyone would like to chat then

> please email me back at saxovtr41@... or

> saxovtr41@...

> Roy.

[Guest guest]

When will you hear back from the dr??

--- bludress <bludress@...> wrote:

> JUST FOUND OUT I HAVE HYPOTHYROIDISM....NEED SOME

> HELP

> HERE.....THOUGHT I WAS HAVING A HEART ATTACK...WENT

> THROUGH A BUNCH

> OF TEST....STRESS....NUCLEOR

> STRESS...SONOGRAM....AND NOW AWAITING

> RESULTS...BUT HAVE FOUND OUT ABOUT THE HYPO...SO

> PLEASE WRITE ME AT

> BLUDRESS@...

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Dear Bludress,

I am new to the group, just found out that I have hypothyroidism too. I

am only curious about when you thought you were having a heart attack

because I had something similar happen to me about two years ago but it

has not been linked to this new diagnosis of hypothyroidism. Is this

another symptom of HYPO, just curious what your doc said? By the way

everyone I have been really enjoying reading and learning with this group.

T.

=====

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

dear bludress,

I had similar episodes to what you are describing three times when I lived

in SC for the first time far away from my family, hubby wasn' thome much,

working a new job and raising my kids, I just attributed it all to stress

but I think I read that if your thyroid is low your corisol gets raised

and your adrenals all get out of whack. Well thanks for sharing! Good

luck, I have just started a real low dose of armour thyroid I am just in

the beginning too!

-

=====

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

thats the med ...i will be taking also

--- and <ekjns@...> wrote:

> dear bludress,

> I had similar episodes to what you are describing

> three times when I lived

> in SC for the first time far away from my family,

> hubby wasn' thome much,

> working a new job and raising my kids, I just

> attributed it all to stress

> but I think I read that if your thyroid is low your

> corisol gets raised

> and your adrenals all get out of whack. Well thanks

> for sharing! Good

> luck, I have just started a real low dose of armour

> thyroid I am just in

> the beginning too!

> -

>

> =====

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

My doc will raise my does from 30mg to 60mg in two weeks, I already feel

more energetic, but hope its not a placebo effect. Keep in touch!

=====

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I need advice.

, I too seemed to have developed something wrong about 1 1/2 years ago. This was just after moving out of Texas. I know I was extremely depressed. My doctor wanted me to take Paxi. After taking it a couple of days, I decided it wasn't for me. It made me feel really robotic. I couldn't really think very well. (and I certainly don't need my thinking any worse than normal) I told the doctor. He insisted that I needed that, or I could visit a Psychiatrist. So, I opted for the Psychiatrist. Now, my Psychiatrist has decided that I've got Hypo-Thyroid, even though my tests are normal. (my T3 is on the low end of normal) My problem is that my insurance only covers 8 visits. So, I have to find a regular doctor. I went to a new doctor yesterday. She asked how I'm feeling. So, I told her....my thinking seems to have improved, but not much else. She said that if I had Hypo-Thyroid & was on medication, I would see an almost immediate effect & start improving drastically. She has in mind giving me Paxil. Also, she doesn't like Armour Thyroid. If she thought I need thyroid meds, it would by Synthroid. My Psyciatrist said that I should only use Armour, since my T4 is well in the normal range. He also told me to be careful about taking Paxil or Prozac or anything like that. He said that Prozac tends to make a person mean. But, it's easier to get off of than Paxil. He told me that Paxil is extremely hard to get off of once your on it & can cause you to gain lots of weight. He said that if I ever decide to get off Armour, there aren't any side effects. The new doctor said that since I've lost weight instead on gaining, she would tend to doubt it's Hypo-Thyroid. I know I'm rambling, but I need help. I'm not sure at all which way to proceed. Did you see immediate improvement after going on medications? (I've been on medication about 4-5 months) I know I'm depressed, but I also know that can be a symptom of Hypo-Thyroid. I'm really wondering if it's possibly 's Syndrome. I asked my new doctor if she'd heard of 's Syndrome. She said no. She said that she's a mainstream doctor. And it sound like it's not really main stream, or she would have heard of it.

Any response?? Thanks for being there.

and <ekjns@...> wrote: dear bludress,I had similar episodes to what you are describing three times when I livedin SC for the first time far away from my family, hubby wasn' thome much,working a new job and raising my kids, I just attributed it all to stressbut I think I read that if your thyroid is low your corisol gets raisedand your adrenals all get out of whack. Well thanks for sharing! Goodluck, I have just started a real low dose of armour thyroid I am just inthe beginning too!-=====__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

, before going on antidepressants, I would try low doses of T3, such as

Cytomel. There is a link between low T3 and depression. And yes, some

people with hypothyroidism lose weight even though it's more rare. Good

luck

- Boston

----Original Message Follows----

From: McVay <wendy_mcvay@...>

Reply-hypothyroidism

hypothyroidism

Subject: Re: HI

Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 18:23:06 -0800 (PST)

I need advice.

,

I too seemed to have developed something wrong about 1 1/2 years ago. This

was just after moving out of Texas. I know I was extremely depressed. My

doctor wanted me to take Paxi. After taking it a couple of days, I decided

it wasn't for me. It made me feel really robotic. I couldn't really think

very well. (and I certainly don't need my thinking any worse than normal)

I told the doctor. He insisted that I needed that, or I could visit a

Psychiatrist. So, I opted for the Psychiatrist. Now, my Psychiatrist has

decided that I've got Hypo-Thyroid, even though my tests are normal. (my T3

is on the low end of normal) My problem is that my insurance only covers 8

visits. So, I have to find a regular doctor. I went to a new doctor

yesterday. She asked how I'm feeling. So, I told her....my thinking seems

to have improved, but not much else. She said that if I had Hypo-Thyroid &

was on medication, I would see an almost immediate effect & start improving

drastically. She has in mind giving me Paxil. Also, she doesn't like

Armour Thyroid. If she thought I need thyroid meds, it would by Synthroid.

My Psyciatrist said that I should only use Armour, since my T4 is well in

the normal range. He also told me to be careful about taking Paxil or

Prozac or anything like that. He said that Prozac tends to make a person

mean. But, it's easier to get off of than Paxil. He told me that Paxil is

extremely hard to get off of once your on it & can cause you to gain lots of

weight. He said that if I ever decide to get off Armour, there aren't any

side effects. The new doctor said that since I've lost weight instead on

gaining, she would tend to doubt it's Hypo-Thyroid. I know I'm rambling,

but I need help. I'm not sure at all which way to proceed.

Did you see immediate improvement after going on medications? (I've been on

medication about 4-5 months) I know I'm depressed, but I also know that can

be a symptom of Hypo-Thyroid. I'm really wondering if it's possibly

's Syndrome. I asked my new doctor if she'd heard of 's

Syndrome. She said no. She said that she's a mainstream doctor. And it

sound like it's not really main stream, or she would have heard of it.

Any response?? Thanks for being there.

_________________________________________________________________

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[Guest guest]

I had similar symptoms. I went onto Armour and no kidding I felt better within an hour. I have never looked back. I started at 1 grain and now take between 2 and 3 grains a day. For the first time in 12 years I feel great. I also take GH.

-----Original Message-----From: McVay [mailto:wendy_mcvay@...]Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:23 PMhypothyroidism Subject: Re: HI

I need advice. , I too seemed to have developed something wrong about 1 1/2 years ago. This was just after moving out of Texas. I know I was extremely depressed. My doctor wanted me to take Paxi. After taking it a couple of days, I decided it wasn't for me. It made me feel really robotic. I couldn't really think very well. (and I certainly don't need my thinking any worse than normal) I told the doctor. He insisted that I needed that, or I could visit a Psychiatrist. So, I opted for the Psychiatrist. Now, my Psychiatrist has decided that I've got Hypo-Thyroid, even though my tests are normal. (my T3 is on the low end of normal) My problem is that my insurance only covers 8 visits. So, I have to find a regular doctor. I went to a new doctor yesterday. She asked how I'm feeling. So, I told her....my thinking seems to have improved, but not much else. She said that if I had Hypo-Thyroid & was on medication, I would see an almost immediate effect & start improving drastically. She has in mind giving me Paxil. Also, she doesn't like Armour Thyroid. If she thought I need thyroid meds, it would by Synthroid. My Psyciatrist said that I should only use Armour, since my T4 is well in the normal range. He also told me to be careful about taking Paxil or Prozac or anything like that. He said that Prozac tends to make a person mean. But, it's easier to get off of than Paxil. He told me that Paxil is extremely hard to get off of once your on it & can cause you to gain lots of weight. He said that if I ever decide to get off Armour, there aren't any side effects. The new doctor said that since I've lost weight instead on gaining, she would tend to doubt it's Hypo-Thyroid. I know I'm rambling, but I need help. I'm not sure at all which way to proceed. Did you see immediate improvement after going on medications? (I've been on medication about 4-5 months) I know I'm depressed, but I also know that can be a symptom of Hypo-Thyroid. I'm really wondering if it's possibly 's Syndrome. I asked my new doctor if she'd heard of 's Syndrome. She said no. She said that she's a mainstream doctor. And it sound like it's not really main stream, or she would have heard of it. Any response?? Thanks for being there. and <ekjns@...> wrote: dear bludress,I had similar episodes to what you are describing three times when I livedin SC for the first time far away from my family, hubby wasn' thome much,working a new job and raising my kids, I just attributed it all to stressbut I think I read that if your thyroid is low your corisol gets raisedand your adrenals all get out of whack. Well thanks for sharing! Goodluck, I have just started a real low dose of armour thyroid I am just inthe beginning too!-=====__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

The first thing I would do is find an alternative therapy doctor, if you

go to Shomon's site at about.com she has a top doc site and most of

those doctors will look past the standardized tests and look at the

symptoms. I drove five hours to find a doctor who would listen to me. I

feel much better on the Armour but as I said I am on the lowest dose so

far I feel great because I have more energy than I have had in years. My

doc told me to expect slow weight loss on the Armour so I am not sure if

you were losing weight on the Armour but supposedly from what I have heard

you should expect that even if you are Hypothyroid. My hypothyroidism did

not show up on a lab test my doc says most of her patients don't, but I do

know that I have been cold for years, tired for years, dry skin, coarse

hair, hoarse voice (I have been popping cough drops for 7 years) my temp

in the morning before I wake up averages 97.2 to 97.3, heavy LONG

menstrual cycles, brain fog, premature gray, overweight, mysterious aches

and pains, joint pain, etc.. you name it I have had it and my doc says

that most mainstream doctors are afraid to veer from the text book.

Anyway when I recently found out I was hypo all these years I at first was

angry because I used to wonder what was wrong with me. Why could my

neighbor have her house clean by 10am and me I was just getting started.

But as my husband says thats the past but where I used to poop out by 3pm

on the Armour (lowest dose) I am pooping out around 8pm thats a

significant change for me and I am enjoying being able to keep running

later in the day. I don't know if I have answered any of your questions I

am new at this too and I can only draw on my personal experience.

Thanks to web sites like Shomon's we are all getting an education

that I can't even find at my local library!

- PS - Also my sex drive has been improving and thats not

such a bad thing!

=====

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[Guest guest]

Human Growth Hormone.

-----Original Message-----From: and [mailto:ekjns@...]Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:52 AMhypothyroidism Subject: RE: HII don't mean to sound stupid but what is GH?- T.=====__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I took paxil for 3 months-it made me MORE lethargic

but I was able to tolorate my depression better.

--- Manoj Sood <manoj@...> wrote:

> I had similar symptoms. I went onto Armour and no

> kidding I felt better

> within an hour. I have never looked back. I

> started at 1 grain and now

> take between 2 and 3 grains a day. For the first

> time in 12 years I feel

> great. I also take GH.

> Re: HI

>

>

> I need advice.

>

> ,

>

> I too seemed to have developed something wrong

> about 1 1/2 years ago.

> This was just after moving out of Texas. I know I

> was extremely depressed.

> My doctor wanted me to take Paxi. After taking it a

> couple of days, I

> decided it wasn't for me. It made me feel really

> robotic. I couldn't

> really think very well. (and I certainly don't need

> my thinking any worse

> than normal) I told the doctor. He insisted that I

> needed that, or I could

> visit a Psychiatrist. So, I opted for the

> Psychiatrist. Now, my

> Psychiatrist has decided that I've got Hypo-Thyroid,

> even though my tests

> are normal. (my T3 is on the low end of normal) My

> problem is that my

> insurance only covers 8 visits. So, I have to find

> a regular doctor. I

> went to a new doctor yesterday. She asked how I'm

> feeling. So, I told

> her....my thinking seems to have improved, but not

> much else. She said that

> if I had Hypo-Thyroid & was on medication, I would

> see an almost immediate

> effect & start improving drastically. She has in

> mind giving me Paxil.

> Also, she doesn't like Armour Thyroid. If she

> thought I need thyroid meds,

> it would by Synthroid. My Psyciatrist said that I

> should only use Armour,

> since my T4 is well in the normal range. He also

> told me to be careful

> about taking Paxil or Prozac or anything like that.

> He said that Prozac

> tends to make a person mean. But, it's easier to

> get off of than Paxil. He

> told me that Paxil is extremely hard to get off of

> once your on it & can

> cause you to gain lots of weight. He said that if I

> ever decide to get off

> Armour, there aren't any side effects. The new

> doctor said that since I've

> lost weight instead on gaining, she would tend to

> doubt it's Hypo-Thyroid.

> I know I'm rambling, but I need help. I'm not sure

> at all which way to

> proceed.

>

> Did you see immediate improvement after going on

> medications? (I've been

> on medication about 4-5 months) I know I'm

> depressed, but I also know that

> can be a symptom of Hypo-Thyroid. I'm really

> wondering if it's possibly

> 's Syndrome. I asked my new doctor if she'd

> heard of 's

> Syndrome. She said no. She said that she's a

> mainstream doctor. And it

> sound like it's not really main stream, or she would

> have heard of it.

>

> Any response?? Thanks for being there.

>

> and <ekjns@...> wrote:

>

> dear bludress,

> I had similar episodes to what you are

> describing three times when I

> lived

> in SC for the first time far away from my

> family, hubby wasn' thome

> much,

> working a new job and raising my kids, I just

> attributed it all to

> stress

> but I think I read that if your thyroid is low

> your corisol gets raised

> and your adrenals all get out of whack. Well

> thanks for sharing! Good

> luck, I have just started a real low dose of

> armour thyroid I am just in

> the beginning too!

> -

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I don't mean to sound stupid but what is GH?

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Manoj,

Exactly what kind of GH do you take? I know that HGH (either real or

synthetic) is VERY expensive and not something that most people could

afford. Are you taking a GH secretatgogue? If so, which one?

Celeste

Manoj Sood wrote:

> I also take GH.

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I have a pituitary disorder and I am prescribed synthetic GH by my doctor. The brand I take is Saizen. Many people are taking it now and in many cases it is covered by insurance.

-----Original Message-----From: a1thighmaster [mailto:teroger@...]Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 2:16 PMhypothyroidism Subject: Re: HIManoj,Exactly what kind of GH do you take? I know that HGH (either real or synthetic) is VERY expensive and not something that most people could afford. Are you taking a GH secretatgogue? If so, which one?CelesteManoj Sood wrote:> I also take GH.

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Ok I have to ask and look like a dummy but what is Armour Thyroid?

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RE: HI

I had similar symptoms. I went onto Armour and no kidding I felt better within an hour. I have never looked back. I started at 1 grain and now take between 2 and 3 grains a day. For the first time in 12 years I feel great. I also take GH.

-----Original Message-----From: McVay [mailto:wendy_mcvay@...]Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:23 PMhypothyroidism Subject: Re: HI

I need advice. , I too seemed to have developed something wrong about 1 1/2 years ago. This was just after moving out of Texas. I know I was extremely depressed. My doctor wanted me to take Paxi. After taking it a couple of days, I decided it wasn't for me. It made me feel really robotic. I couldn't really think very well. (and I certainly don't need my thinking any worse than normal) I told the doctor. He insisted that I needed that, or I could visit a Psychiatrist. So, I opted for the Psychiatrist. Now, my Psychiatrist has decided that I've got Hypo-Thyroid, even though my tests are normal. (my T3 is on the low end of normal) My problem is that my insurance only covers 8 visits. So, I have to find a regular doctor. I went to a new doctor yesterday. She asked how I'm feeling. So, I told her....my thinking seems to have improved, but not much else. She said that if I had Hypo-Thyroid & was on medication, I would see an almost immediate effect & start improving drastically. She has in mind giving me Paxil. Also, she doesn't like Armour Thyroid. If she thought I need thyroid meds, it would by Synthroid. My Psyciatrist said that I should only use Armour, since my T4 is well in the normal range. He also told me to be careful about taking Paxil or Prozac or anything like that. He said that Prozac tends to make a person mean. But, it's easier to get off of than Paxil. He told me that Paxil is extremely hard to get off of once your on it & can cause you to gain lots of weight. He said that if I ever decide to get off Armour, there aren't any side effects. The new doctor said that since I've lost weight instead on gaining, she would tend to doubt it's Hypo-Thyroid. I know I'm rambling, but I need help. I'm not sure at all which way to proceed. Did you see immediate improvement after going on medications? (I've been on medication about 4-5 months) I know I'm depressed, but I also know that can be a symptom of Hypo-Thyroid. I'm really wondering if it's possibly 's Syndrome. I asked my new doctor if she'd heard of 's Syndrome. She said no. She said that she's a mainstream doctor. And it sound like it's not really main stream, or she would have heard of it. Any response?? Thanks for being there. and <ekjns@...> wrote: dear bludress,I had similar episodes to what you are describing three times when I livedin SC for the first time far away from my family, hubby wasn' thome much,working a new job and raising my kids, I just attributed it all to stressbut I think I read that if your thyroid is low your corisol gets raisedand your adrenals all get out of whack. Well thanks for sharing! Goodluck, I have just started a real low dose of armour thyroid I am just inthe beginning too!-=====__________________________________________________

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my doc says it is a pig hormone that replaces what I am missing in my

body, if I am not explaining this right anyone please correct me. I am

new to all of this myself.

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