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I had sciatic nerve pain and went to the chiropractor and was very happy

with the treatment and it hasn't come back. It did take a couple of

appointments and I had to do exercises but I was very happy with it. I

have two co-workers who've had the same problem and they've gone to the

doctor and taken Rxs and it always comes back.

gin

PS - If you are looking for a LLMD try going to www.mdjunction.com and

sign up and join the Lyme group. They have a place you can ask for LLMD

in your area and someone will message you. Because of the

controversialness of Lyme they don't allow drs names on the forum to

protect them. I am currently on the Cowden Condensed Protocol and am

feeling much better!

PSS - That they stopped making the vaccine infuriates me.

On 4/27/2011 8:21 AM, turner146 wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have been having sciatic nerve pain so I finally went to my new

> doctor (non LLMD). The ortho doc said I really think you should see a

> rheumatologist after I told him that I am still dealing with Lyme. I

> about jumped off the exam table and yelled at him for being ignorant.

> (I would never do it but...) I even told him that I had seen a

> rheumatologist starting when I was 3yrs old and stopped as an adult.

> AND never tested positive on any arthritis blood test. Told him it

> turned out to be Lyme this whole time 45 years later. They even had a

> sign on the exam wall that said doctors don't give out antibiotics

> when it's not needed. whatever... I wish some day the medical world

> would realize that there are people who have late Stage Chronic Lyme.

> I hate going to the doctors and wait until something is really bad.

> The Lyme controversy is unreal and not easy to unravel. What is the

> benefit for them not to recognize Lyme? There are more cases of Lyme

> than AIDS. It's actually an epide mic but no one wants to finally do

> something. One town the other night on the news thought it would be a

> good idea to shoot the excess deer to lessen the Lyme exposure. How

> about creating something that will kill off the ticks instead. hmmm

>

> sorry for ranting... I'm at my wits end.. 45 years of Lyme has done me

> in.. The daily pain and other stuff is too much

>

>

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I feel your pain but now have to ask you " What are you doing to help

yourself? "

Have you heard of the salt/c protocol?

It has helped many people get their health back. It's cheap, easy and has

an excellent track record of success.

There are also many other self treatments people are doing that are working

and they aren't taking antibiotics to do it!

Be proactive! If the doctors are listening then help yourself! Many have!

For free information on what people have done and are doing see my website.

www.lyme-resource.com

You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! -

> [ ] latest doctor appt

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have been having sciatic nerve pain so I finally went to my

> new doctor (non LLMD). The ortho doc said I really think you

> should see a rheumatologist after I told him that I am still

> dealing with Lyme. I about jumped off the exam table and

> yelled at him for being ignorant. (I would never do it

> but...) I even told him that I had seen a rheumatologist

> starting when I was 3yrs old and stopped as an adult. AND

> never tested positive on any arthritis blood test. Told him

> it turned out to be Lyme this whole time 45 years later. They

> even had a sign on the exam wall that said doctors don't give

> out antibiotics when it's not needed. whatever... I wish some

> day the medical world would realize that there are people who

> have late Stage Chronic Lyme. I hate going to the doctors and

> wait until something is really bad. The Lyme controversy is

> unreal and not easy to unravel. What is the benefit for them

> not to recognize Lyme? There are more cases of Lyme than

> AIDS. It's actually an epidemic but no one wants to finally

> do something. One town the other night on the news thought it

> would be a good idea to shoot the excess deer to lessen the

> Lyme exposure. How about creating something that will kill

> off the ticks instead. hmmm

>

> sorry for ranting... I'm at my wits end.. 45 years of Lyme

> has done me in.. The daily pain and other stuff is too much

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> Lyme Disease News continually updated from thousands of

> sources around the

> net: http://www.topix.net/health/lyme-disease

>

> MedWorm: The latest items on: Lyme Disease

> http://tinyurl.com/23dgy8

>

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I am so sorry - your story sounds like mine a bit.......I always wonder if they

want to keep it undercover because someone is working on a cure.....so they want

to patient the cure and then it will all come out.......comes down to

greed......doesn't matter who or how many people are suffering........and the

pain.....yes, the pain sucks..........especially in my children.....breaks my

heart to the core!!

Prayers for you and hope your pain goes away soon........just feel so bad for

all of us........none of this is fair!!

Diane

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From: turner146 <turner146@...>

Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 11:21:30 AM

Subject: [ ] latest doctor appt

 

Hi everyone,

I have been having sciatic nerve pain so I finally went to my new doctor (non

LLMD). The ortho doc said I really think you should see a rheumatologist after I

told him that I am still dealing with Lyme. I about jumped off the exam table

and yelled at him for being ignorant. (I would never do it but...) I even told

him that I had seen a rheumatologist starting when I was 3yrs old and stopped as

an adult. AND never tested positive on any arthritis blood test. Told him it

turned out to be Lyme this whole time 45 years later. They even had a sign on

the exam wall that said doctors don't give out antibiotics when it's not needed.

whatever... I wish some day the medical world would realize that there are

people who have late Stage Chronic Lyme. I hate going to the doctors and wait

until something is really bad. The Lyme controversy is unreal and not easy to

unravel. What is the benefit for them not to recognize Lyme? There are more

cases of Lyme than AIDS. It's actually an epidemic but no one wants to finally

do something. One town the other night on the news thought it would be a good

idea to shoot the excess deer to lessen the Lyme exposure. How about creating

something that will kill off the ticks instead. hmmm

sorry for ranting... I'm at my wits end.. 45 years of Lyme has done me in.. The

daily pain and other stuff is too much

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Really really important small detail here.

Please don't tell anybody you have " late stage chronic Lyme. " They are two

different things.

" Late stage (or late-stage disseminated) Lyme " is Lyme that goes undiagnosed and

untreated for years. " Chronic Lyme " is Lyme that persists even after it's been

" treated " according to the standard IDSA guidelines.

This distinction is important when dealing with non-LLMDs. Your average

conventional doc is far more inclined to be sympathetic if your Lyme has not

been treated. Once you've been treated and it's failed, only then do you fall

into the controversial " chronic " category, and that's when they start thinking

you're a nutcase.

The upshot is that nobody should use the word " chronic " in talking to outside

doctors if they can possibly avoid it. It's a trigger word for them, and you

reduce the odds of getting sympathetic care. In actual doctor-speak, at the very

least, don't use it unless you have actually been treated with antibiotics for a

month or two per the IDSA protocol, and that treatment has failed. If that's not

you, there's no sense in putting yourself into a controversial category you

don't even belong in.

Sara

On Apr 27, 2011, at 9:21 30AM, turner146 wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> I have been having sciatic nerve pain so I finally went to my new doctor (non

LLMD). The ortho doc said I really think you should see a rheumatologist after

I told him that I am still dealing with Lyme. I about jumped off the exam table

and yelled at him for being ignorant. (I would never do it but...) I even told

him that I had seen a rheumatologist starting when I was 3yrs old and stopped as

an adult. AND never tested positive on any arthritis blood test. Told him it

turned out to be Lyme this whole time 45 years later. They even had a sign on

the exam wall that said doctors don't give out antibiotics when it's not needed.

whatever... I wish some day the medical world would realize that there are

people who have late Stage Chronic Lyme. I hate going to the doctors and wait

until something is really bad. The Lyme controversy is unreal and not easy to

unravel. What is the benefit for them not to recognize Lyme? There are more

cases of Lyme than AIDS. It's actually an epidemic but no one wants to finally

do something. One town the other night on the news thought it would be a good

idea to shoot the excess deer to lessen the Lyme exposure. How about creating

something that will kill off the ticks instead. hmmm

>

> sorry for ranting... I'm at my wits end.. 45 years of Lyme has done me in..

The daily pain and other stuff is too much

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> Lyme Disease News continually updated from thousands of sources around the

> net: http://www.topix.net/health/lyme-disease

>

> MedWorm: The latest items on: Lyme Disease

> http://tinyurl.com/23dgy8

>

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Hi -

Very interesting. I think you should find a LLMD (Lyme Literate Medical

Doctor.) Go to ILADS (International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society) or LDA

(Lyme Disease Association) for help finding a doctor. You have every right to

feel aggravated. Lyme sucks and the medical staff are so untrained and they act

idiotic. The medical doctor that I went to was so untrained when my symptoms

were right in his face along with the bite. Now this doctor has trained for Lyme

Disease and never stops ranting and raging over it! Maybe you will get this non

LLMD on board by startling him.

I don't believe they should kill deer either. Did you know that some people

claim if you eat deer meat (venison) you won't get Lyme D? Deer are immune to

Lyme Disease. Very interesting. Researchers should find out why. So many small

wild animals are getting Lyme Disease. Do you ever see many adult wild rabbits

around?

Rabbits are loaded with tiny ticks. Those poor things. They get Lyme Disease.

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From: turner146 <turner146@...>

Sent: Wed, April 27, 2011 12:21:30 PM

Subject: [ ] latest doctor appt

Hi everyone,

I have been having sciatic nerve pain so I finally went to my new doctor (non

LLMD). The ortho doc said I really think you should see a rheumatologist after

I told him that I am still dealing with Lyme. I about jumped off the exam table

and yelled at him for being ignorant. (I would never do it but...) I even told

him that I had seen a rheumatologist starting when I was 3yrs old and stopped as

an adult. AND never tested positive on any arthritis blood test. Told him it

turned out to be Lyme this whole time 45 years later. They even had a sign on

the exam wall that said doctors don't give out antibiotics when it's not needed.

whatever... I wish some day the medical world would realize that there are

people who have late Stage Chronic Lyme. I hate going to the doctors and wait

until something is really bad. The Lyme controversy is unreal and not easy to

unravel. What is the benefit for them not to recognize Lyme? There are more

cases of Lyme than AIDS. It's actually an epidemic but no one wants to finally

do something. One town the other night on the news thought it would be a good

idea to shoot the excess deer to lessen the Lyme exposure. How about creating

something that will kill off the ticks instead. hmmm

sorry for ranting... I'm at my wits end.. 45 years of Lyme has done me in.. The

daily pain and other stuff is too much

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Thanks Sara for the information...

I was infected with Lyme at the age of 3, was not diagnosed until I was 45 years

old. Went through treatment for 2 1/2 years with no success. I actually had to

stop the treatment. I couldn't handle it any more. I had no choice, I had to

keep working full time.

So what would you categorize this as?

I've been through the mill with doctors before I knew it was Lyme like the rest

of us. Telling a non LLMD that you even have Lyme is like telling them you

believe in aliens and have several of them living at your house. seriously, they

look at you like you are insane. I just look back at them as though they are

extremely ignorate and should turn in their medical liscence.

>

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I have been having sciatic nerve pain so I finally went to my new doctor

(non LLMD). The ortho doc said I really think you should see a rheumatologist

after I told him that I am still dealing with Lyme. I about jumped off the exam

table and yelled at him for being ignorant. (I would never do it but...) I even

told him that I had seen a rheumatologist starting when I was 3yrs old and

stopped as an adult. AND never tested positive on any arthritis blood test. Told

him it turned out to be Lyme this whole time 45 years later. They even had a

sign on the exam wall that said doctors don't give out antibiotics when it's not

needed. whatever... I wish some day the medical world would realize that there

are people who have late Stage Chronic Lyme. I hate going to the doctors and

wait until something is really bad. The Lyme controversy is unreal and not easy

to unravel. What is the benefit for them not to recognize Lyme? There are more

cases of Lyme than AIDS. It's actually an epidemic but no one wants to finally

do something. One town the other night on the news thought it would be a good

idea to shoot the excess deer to lessen the Lyme exposure. How about creating

something that will kill off the ticks instead. hmmm

> >

> > sorry for ranting... I'm at my wits end.. 45 years of Lyme has done me in..

The daily pain and other stuff is too much

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > Lyme Disease News continually updated from thousands of sources around the

> > net: http://www.topix.net/health/lyme-disease

> >

> > MedWorm: The latest items on: Lyme Disease

> > http://tinyurl.com/23dgy8

> >

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good point. Think only going to a LLMD is the way. My old LLMD was right on the

money every time. Next time I need to go to a non LLMD, I won't mention Lyme.

Too ridiculous sealing with bozos... :-)

>

> What is the correct way to connect your symptoms to Lyme when you visit a

> doctor, or need to tell someone?

>

>

>

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I have seen extremely inconsistent info on this doctor that you are talking

about in Alabama. Some people rave about him and a few hate him. So what the

heck do I do?

> >

> > What is the correct way to connect your symptoms to Lyme when you visit a

> > doctor, or need to tell someone?

> >

> >

> >

> >

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