capricin

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I only use " caprol " which is part of my candida purge and in this way

'caprylic acid' is in the oil - and this does not have the funny effects

people have with the pill.

wendy

Re: Capricin

On 28 Feb 2001, at 8:14, Patty wrote:

> Has anyone had experience using the product called Capricin?

I've used caprylic acid off and on,. with OK-ish results, but never at

these doses. I think mine are 350mg tablets, and I was taking 4 a

day. You'd need ten a day for the max dose here, but I'd be very,

very worried about what that drastric a die-off would do to a

weakened system.

Interesting figures, though. Maybe I'll up my dose once this current

die-off passes and I can face another one!

Ann

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Capricin

Has anyone had experience using the product called Capricin?

In the Alternative Medicine Guide called " Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia and

Environmental Illness, it says this:

" In one study, 16 patients were given 1800 mg daily of caprylic acid (the

commercial brand Capricin) for 16 days, three patients were given 2700 mg

daily, and 6 received 3600 mg per day. The results were a 30% to 90%

reduction in Candida levels among those with the 1800 mg dosage; a 70% to

100% reduction in the three patients taking 2700 mg; and complete

elimination of Candida in two weeks in all of those taking 3600 mg. "

Patty

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Ann - would the shipping be gigantic if you ordered the caprol from the

U.S.???? (that is... if you really wanted it?)

wendy

Re: Capricin

On 28 Feb 2001, at 9:32, D & WMcPhail wrote:

> I only use " caprol " which is part of my candida purge and in this way

> 'caprylic acid' is in the oil

I'd mcuh rather take it like that, but you simply cannot get this kind

of stuff in the UK! The tablets are like hens' teeth, even though

Solgar do them, because 99% of health shops don't stock them.

I've never seen the oil anywhere over here, in shops or on line,

although if anyone wants to enlighten me I'd be delighted to be

proved wrong!

Ann

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On 28 Feb 2001, at 8:14, Patty wrote:

> Has anyone had experience using the product called Capricin?

I've used caprylic acid off and on,. with OK-ish results, but never at

these doses. I think mine are 350mg tablets, and I was taking 4 a

day. You'd need ten a day for the max dose here, but I'd be very,

very worried about what that drastric a die-off would do to a

weakened system.

Interesting figures, though. Maybe I'll up my dose once this current

die-off passes and I can face another one!

Ann

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On 28 Feb 2001, at 9:32, D & WMcPhail wrote:

> I only use " caprol " which is part of my candida purge and in this way

> 'caprylic acid' is in the oil

I'd mcuh rather take it like that, but you simply cannot get this kind

of stuff in the UK! The tablets are like hens' teeth, even though

Solgar do them, because 99% of health shops don't stock them.

I've never seen the oil anywhere over here, in shops or on line,

although if anyone wants to enlighten me I'd be delighted to be

proved wrong!

Ann

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> I've used caprylic acid off and on,. with OK-ish results, but never

at these doses. I think mine are 350mg tablets, and I was taking 4 a

I was on Mycopryl 680gr - from Biocare 3 x per day. I was on it for

5 weeks.

I must say that I wasn't particularly pleased with the results, I

think that there are better anti-fungals available. I get to find

out on Friday what my new treatment will be. I'm hoping for GSE or

even undecinoic (sp?) acid.

Debs

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Subject: Re: Capricin

On 28 Feb 2001, at 9:32, D & WMcPhail wrote:

> I only use " caprol " which is part of my candida purge and in this

way

> 'caprylic acid' is in the oil

I'd mcuh rather take it like that, but you simply cannot get this kind

of stuff in the UK! The tablets are like hens' teeth, even though

Solgar do them, because 99% of health shops don't stock them.

I've never seen the oil anywhere over here, in shops or on line,

although if anyone wants to enlighten me I'd be delighted to be

proved wrong!

Ann

I take the Attogram products. One of the components is Caprol. Here

is where you can get them on the web and the information that is

posted.

http://www.wholeapproach.com/shop/

Caprol - containing liquid caprylic acid (extracted from coconut oil)

and oleic acids (in olive oil), is the fungicidal component of the

Attogram products. Caprylic acid, a fatty acid, is a broad-spectrum

anti-fungal agent effective against Candida albicans and other fungi,

but harmless to friendly intestinal flora. It is effective not only

against the yeast form of Candida, but also the invasive mycelial form

because it is absorbed by the intestinal mucosal cells. Oleic acid

hinders conversion of the yeast form of Candida to the more injurious

mycelial form. The olive oil in Caprol is high quality " extra virgin " .

The Caprylic acid in Caprol, being a liquid has a coating action on

the intestinal wall which tablets and capsules cannot match.

Liquid Caprol, being dispersed in the Psyllium gel, releases its

caprylic acid throughout the entire length of the intestinal tract at

a predictable rate controlled by the gel.

Liquid Caprol, being dispersed in the Psyllium gel, has its caprylic

acid forcibly rubbed into the intestinal wall (where Candida live) by

the bulking action of the gel.

Only liquid caprylic acid will work properly with this program.

Powdered caprylic acid in tablets and capsules will not cooperate

nearly as well with the Psyllium gel, even when crushed first.

Bentonite, a volcanic ash found in the Black Hills of South Dakota, is

an inert mineral silicate. When processed into a very fine powder and

suspended in distilled water, Bentonite adsorbs (acts like a magnet

pulling toxins to it) intestinal waste products without being absorbed

into the system. Because Bentonite itself is not absorbed into the

body, whatever it adsorbs is removed in the feces. Bentonite provides

an excellent vehicle for removing miscellaneous intestinal poisons and

toxins generated by Candida albicans.

Bentonite must be in a liquid form in order to exert optimal effect.

If taken in powder or tablet form, the digestive system must then

convert it to liquid form. This task is not likely, however, because

Bentonite does not mix easily with water.

The adsorbent action of Bentonite helps eliminate the Candida breeding

ground by attracting and removing toxic material.

The adsorbent action of Bentonite reduces toxic overload ( " die-off "

reaction) by removing toxins released by dying Candida.

Psyllium is a key element in obtaining the needed gelled consistency,

which slowly moves caprylic acid through the intestinal tract. Most

Psyllium products are husks only and sold solely for their laxative

effect. This husks-only Psyllium possesses minimal intestinal

cleansing action. The seeds, even when crushed into a powder, still

retain tiny granules, which scrape away the accumulated fecal build-up

on the colon wall. The husks absorb water and form the gel, retarding

the passage of the fungicidal caprylic acid. This Psyllium product

uses the dual benefits of both Psyllium seeds AND husks.

Psyllium forms the gel, which gradually, gently scrapes away the

Candida breeding ground (plaquing of fecal matter), from the

intestinal wall.

Psyllium forms the gel which reduces toxic overload ( " die-off "

reaction) by absorbing toxins released by dying Candida.

Psyllium forms the gel which binds Caprol into a timed-release form.

(taking Caprol alone will result in very little anti-Candida activity

since most of the caprylic acid will leave the intestinal tract very

quickly.

DDS Plus Acidophilus

Reimplanting beneficial bacteria is the fourth part of the

colon-cleansing program. The balance in the intestinal tract is lost

as the fungi proliferate. Beneficial bacteria need to be reimplanted

to help provide equilibrium in the intestinal tract. DDS Plus

Acidophilus from UAS Laboratories contains 5 billion viable DDS-strain

Lactobacillus acidophilus, Bifidus and FOS (100mg) in a rice starch

base. DDS Plus does not contain MSG, soy, wheat or dairy (it is

hypoallergenic). The beneficial effects of acidophilus have been

recognized since 1908 by the Russian Scientist Metchnikoff. Reviews of

further studies show acidophilus:

Produces b vitamins

Produced lactase enzymes and helps digest lactose

Helps digest food and correct digestive disorders

Prevents bad breath

Produces lactic acid, hydrogen peroxide and natural antibiotics

Possesses anti cholesteremic factors to reduce cholesterol

Inhibits and reduces candidiasis

The presence of food in the stomach activates stomach acids, which

kill the beneficial bacteria. The colon-cleansing program must be

ingested on an empty stomach to preserve the beneficial bacteria.

Hope that helps.

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On 28 Feb 2001, at 10:41, D & WMcPhail wrote:

> Ann - would the shipping be gigantic if you ordered the caprol from

> the U.S.????

I suspec tit probalby would be - surface mail wold be affordable but

take 6 weeks, and airmail woudl be megabucks. I've been too ill to

work for over a year, apart from a tiny part-time job I do from home

which doesn't even cover my half of the rent, so getting stuff

imported really isn't an option. Ho hum.

Thanks for the thought, though!

Ann

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so where do you get capricin at the 3600 mg levels?

>From: "Patty"

>Reply-candidiasis >

>Subject: Capricin >Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:14:30 -0800 > >Has anyone had experience using the product called Capricin? > >In the Alternative Medicine Guide called "Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia and >Environmental Illness, it says this: > >"In one study, 16 patients were given 1800 mg daily of caprylic acid (the >commercial brand Capricin) for 16 days, three patients were given 2700 mg >daily, and 6 received 3600 mg per day. The results were a 30% to 90% >reduction in Candida levels among those with the 1800 mg dosage; a 70% to >100% reduction in the three patients taking 2700 mg; and complete >elimination of Candida in two weeks in all of those taking 3600 mg." > >Patty > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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I'm using Capryl by Solaray. It has 360 mg per pill, and I am taking 10 pills per day.

I am on my 3rd day.

Patty

Capricin >Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:14:30 -0800 > >Has anyone had experience using the product called Capricin? > >In the Alternative Medicine Guide called "Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia and >Environmental Illness, it says this: > >"In one study, 16 patients were given 1800 mg daily of caprylic acid (the >commercial brand Capricin) for 16 days, three patients were given 2700 mg >daily, and 6 received 3600 mg per day. The results were a 30% to 90% >reduction in Candida levels among those with the 1800 mg dosage; a 70% to >100% reduction in the three patients taking 2700 mg; and complete >elimination of Candida in two weeks in all of those taking 3600 mg." > >Patty > >

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What do you think of prescription drugs such as nystatin or diflucan? I was just diagnosed and I'm not sure what path to take. What about the non-prescription tanalbit? What about using the prescriptions in conjunction with the capyriclic acid?

Thanks

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Thank you.. I can tolerate herbs. I just went off anti-depressents because I found out there is yeast in my pills. I am going to a doctor on Tuesday who is a MD and a naturalpath. I read that diflucan is really hard on your body--that it has negative effects on your liver, and also, expensive. How much is it? What medicines are you rotating. I will discuss everything with my doctor on Tuesday. Thanks,

Carol

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> I'm using Capryl by Solaray. It has 360 mg per pill, and I am

taking 10 pills per day.

> I am on my 3rd day.

> Patty

Hi,

I read somewhere on one of these lists that Caprylic Acid in

pill or other dry forms isn't very effective, while liquid Caprylic

Acid is Very effective, indeed. Has anyone else seen this info?

Neil

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Oh wow! That's a lot of pills to swallow. But we're used to that. I'll be really interested to see how you're doing. Is it OK, if I check with you to see how you're doing?

>From: "Patty"

>Reply-candidiasis >

>Subject: Re: Capricin >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:06:57 -0800 > >I'm using Capryl by Solaray. It has 360 mg per pill, and I am taking 10 pills per day. >I am on my 3rd day. >Patty > Capricin > >Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:14:30 -0800 > > > >Has anyone had experience using the product called Capricin? > > > >In the Alternative Medicine Guide called "Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia and > >Environmental Illness, it says this: > > > >"In one study, 16 patients were given 1800 mg daily of caprylic acid (the > >commercial brand Capricin) for 16 days, three patients were given 2700 mg > >daily, and 6 received 3600 mg per day. The results were a 30% to 90% > >reduction in Candida levels among those with the 1800 mg dosage; a 70% to > >100% reduction in the three patients taking 2700 mg; and complete > >elimination of Candida in two weeks in all of those taking 3600 mg." > > > >Patty > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > >

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You said that you were just diagnosed, was this from a doctor?

What treatment did your doctor recommend? Many people

with a mild problem can treat their overgrowth with herbs.

There are different kinds of yeast and what kills one variety

may not kill another. That's why moving to a prescription

makes sense. But there are other individual problems that

exist. Like, can you tolerate the herb or medication. Do

you have any other health problems or medications that could

put you at a disadvantage?

My doctor did not mention to rotate antifungals. Maybe that's

why it stopped working for me after 2 years use. Discuss this

whit your doctor also, I believe information is out there that it

is important to rotate the antifungas. My problem is wanting

to get on the Dulfican, they don't want to use it. I guess I would

be taking up so much of their generous time and I am not worth

the time to "practice medicine" on. Just a peeve of mine. But

there is too much ignorance on this subject. Good LUCK.

LIZ

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Your right about Dulfican, you need to get blood liver enzyme levels.

It can cause liver damage. The two books I read suggested that

Nystatin is the best first drug. If that doesn't clear up the whole

problem then to move on to the risky drugs-Dulfican for starters.

I am not on anything now. I should be. The herbs arent getting

where I need it so I have nothing to rotate.

Pay attention to MERRY's post on enzymes. That's where I am

heading for and to get my digestion right. Since you are seeing

a naturalpath he should help you in all respects. But bear in

mind some doctors don't. If the doctors keep their research up

to date, you should get all around help. Sorry to say all of the

doctors I've seen failed in all respects.

One very frustrating thing I found out is being on an Antidepressant

for Anxiety disorder and depression, is that you get steriotyped.

My psychiatrist tells me over and over that it sounds as if I have

fybromyalgia and it is very hard for doctors to conclude. So many

patients problems have been ignored because their physicians believe

it's just their nerves or anxiety. I found that to be true with each doctor

I see, no matter how they address my problems with interest, their

conclusion is always "Somatic". I know there are good doctors out

there, I hope you got yourself one of them. I will keep looking.

As for rotation, Go to the main page of this group and do a search

on rotation. You should get information we just discussed not too

long ago on rotating herbs, as well as a rotation diet for those who

have food sensitivities.

BYE, LIZ

Thank you.. I can tolerate herbs. I just went off anti-depressents because I found out there is yeast in my pills. I am going to a doctor on Tuesday who is a MD and a naturalpath. I read that diflucan is really hard on your body--that it has negative effects on your liver, and also, expensive. How much is it? What medicines are you rotating. I will discuss everything with my doctor on Tuesday. Thanks, Carol Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE !

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If you don't hit the breeding grounds of the candida - then you're going to still have the problem - this is the beauty of the candida purge. I do it 2x a year (just as a regular yearly program) and its the BEST i've ever found and I've tried itall....

wendy

Re: Capricin

Your right about Dulfican, you need to get blood liver enzyme levels.

It can cause liver damage. The two books I read suggested that

Nystatin is the best first drug. If that doesn't clear up the whole

problem then to move on to the risky drugs-Dulfican for starters.

I am not on anything now. I should be. The herbs arent getting

where I need it so I have nothing to rotate.

Pay attention to MERRY's post on enzymes. That's where I am

heading for and to get my digestion right. Since you are seeing

a naturalpath he should help you in all respects. But bear in

mind some doctors don't. If the doctors keep their research up

to date, you should get all around help. Sorry to say all of the

doctors I've seen failed in all respects.

One very frustrating thing I found out is being on an Antidepressant

for Anxiety disorder and depression, is that you get steriotyped.

My psychiatrist tells me over and over that it sounds as if I have

fybromyalgia and it is very hard for doctors to conclude. So many

patients problems have been ignored because their physicians believe

it's just their nerves or anxiety. I found that to be true with each doctor

I see, no matter how they address my problems with interest, their

conclusion is always " Somatic " . I know there are good doctors out

there, I hope you got yourself one of them. I will keep looking.

As for rotation, Go to the main page of this group and do a search

on rotation. You should get information we just discussed not too

long ago on rotating herbs, as well as a rotation diet for those who

have food sensitivities.

BYE, LIZ

Thank you.. I can tolerate herbs. I just went off anti-depressents because I found out there is yeast in my pills. I am going to a doctor on Tuesday who is a MD and a naturalpath. I read that diflucan is really hard on your body--that it has negative effects on your liver, and also, expensive. How much is it? What medicines are you rotating. I will discuss everything with my doctor on Tuesday. Thanks, Carol Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE !

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Thanks liz

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What is the candida purge?

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I seem to be doing great on the Capryl. I have not experienced much in the way of die-off yet, so I am not sure what to say about it, although my brain fog seems to be better. I am not sure if it is from the Capryl or from the extra molybdenum I am taking, but at least the brain fog is not so bad!

Patty

Capricin > >Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:14:30 -0800 > > > >Has anyone had experience using the product called Capricin? > > > >In the Alternative Medicine Guide called "Chronic Fatigue, Fibromyalgia and > >Environmental Illness, it says this: > > > >"In one study, 16 patients were given 1800 mg daily of caprylic acid (the > >commercial brand Capricin) for 16 days, three patients were given 2700 mg > >daily, and 6 received 3600 mg per day. The results were a 30% to 90% > >reduction in Candida levels among those with the 1800 mg dosage; a 70% to > >100% reduction in the three patients taking 2700 mg; and complete > >elimination of Candida in two weeks in all of those taking 3600 mg." > > > >Patty > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > >

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Has anyone had any experience with this product in the past. It is

no longer on the market,and I am looking for a comparable substitute.