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Sorry...I was not clear....I live in Wisconsin.....I too am paying 550

dollars for 4 shots......I am wondering about the things in Canada

Again I'm sorry

----- Original Message -----

From: " a " <aA@...>

< egroups>

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 5:46 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Thanks a.......

> ,

>

> You're welcome . I don't think coming to USA is going to save you

any

> money. I believe Enbrel is $1100.00-$1200.00 here. I'm lucky that I have

a

> good prescription plan and don't pay for it. I think prescriptions are

> cheaper in Canada. We do have a few from Canada on the list. Maybe they

> know the comparison. Are there any agencies in Canada that can help with

> the costs of medicine?

>

> a

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <dmillerman@...>

> < egroups>

> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 5:45 PM

> Subject: [ ] Thanks a.......

>

>

> > a I will wait to see what she says......is there anyone on the list

> who

> > lives in Canada...I'm only 6 hours from the Canadian Border....it may be

> > worth a drive if I can save enough money on the Embrel....my insurance

> > reinburses 80% boy it's still over 200 dollars per month plus the other

> > medications....

> >

> > Thank you a for all your help and advise.

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: " a " <aA@...>

> > < egroups>

> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 1:56 PM

> > Subject: Re: [ ] What is the name of the diet

> >

> >

> > > ,

> > > Delaine is on the diet. I think the book is called Prescription for

> > > Nutritional Healing, but maybe you'd better wait for Delaine to verify

> it.

> > > I tried diet and it did me no good. I've developed osteoporosis and

the

> > > fact that I cut out so many dairy products may have contributed. I

> guess

> > > I'll never know. I am back to eating cheese and drinking milk and I

> > haven't

> > > had an increase in pain or swelling. Since foods cause such a variety

> of

> > > reactions in everyone, we just have to try things and see what works

> best

> > > for us.

> > >

> > > I'm on Enbrel too and will be starting Celebrex as soon as it comes

in.

> > > Enbrel has helped me a lot. I also take Vicodan for pain on my bad

> days.

> > > I'm sorry you are in so much pain. If it is really bad, your doctor

> > should

> > > be able to prescribe something. You are on a very good combination

for

> > the

> > > RA, but I don't see anything specific for pain relief.

> > > Good luck with the diet. I hope it helps you.

> > >

> > > a

> > >

> > >

> > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > From: <dmillerman@...>

> > > < egroups>

> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 10:34 AM

> > > Subject: [ ] What is the name of the diet

> > >

> > >

> > > > a

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for your response....i'm on

> > > > Embrel...Methotraxate...prednisone....celebrex..folic acid.....

> > > >

> > > > Could you please give me the name of the R A diet book so i may

order

> > > > it......thank you very much

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > From: " a " <aA@...>

> > > > < egroups>

> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 10:04 PM

> > > > Subject: RE: [ ] Changing my diet has made my pain go away.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > ,

> > > > > Probably the cheapest and easiest is

> > > > > http:www.amazon.com

> > > > > It's an online book store that has great prices

> > > > > and you don't have to leave home. What meds are

> > > > > you currently taking? Have you tried different

> > > > > drug combos to get relief? Sorry you are in so

> > > > > much pain. I hope you feel better.

> > > > >

> > > > > a

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -----Original Message-----

> > > > > From:

> > > > > [mailto:dmillerman@...]

> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 6:02 PM

> > > > > egroups

> > > > > Subject: Re: [ ] Changing my diet has

> > > > > made my pain go away.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Could I please find out how to get a copy of the

> > > > > diet...I will do anything

> > > > > for pain relief.....

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you for your assistance

> > > > >

> > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > > From: " a " <aA@...>

> > > > > < egroups>

> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 3:42 PM

> > > > > Subject: Re: [ ] Changing my diet has

> > > > > made my pain go away.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Delaine,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm glad that the diet is helping you. I've

> > > > > read a lot about that book

> > > > > and

> > > > > > have heard many people have great success with

> > > > > it. I am glad that you

> > > > > > realize that it is not a cure. So many people

> > > > > stop their medication after

> > > > > > feeling better, and then get into trouble. Let

> > > > > us know how you are doing.

> > > > > > You may have company with your new diet! If

> > > > > nothing else maybe I could

> > > > > drop

> > > > > > ten pounds or so :)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > a

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----

> > > > > > From: Jim & Delaine Lowry <keywest@...>

> > > > > > onelist

> > > > > < egroups>; <keywest@...>

> > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 8:32 PM

> > > > > > Subject: [ ] Changing my diet has made

> > > > > my pain go away.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have had rheumatoid arthritis for 2 years.

> > > > > I have been on prednisone

> > > > > > > and

> > > > > > > finally got off of it and will not ever take

> > > > > it again. I've taken arava

> > > > > > > for 1.5

> > > > > > > years and methotrexate for 2 years. Even with

> > > > > taking the prednisone and

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > arava, I have been in tremendous pain in my

> > > > > ankles, knees, wrists, and

> > > > > > > elbows and even in my fingers.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > About a month ago, my hairdresser told me how

> > > > > a change in diet had

> > > > > > > almost

> > > > > > > cured her RA. She told me that she didn't eat

> > > > > anything white (white

> > > > > > > rice, white

> > > > > > > bread, white potatoes, white crackers, white

> > > > > sugar, etc.), no shellfish,

> > > > > > > no dairy

> > > > > > > products, no pork, beef only occasionally, no

> > > > > alcohol, and only one cup

> > > > > > > of

> > > > > > > coffee per day..

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Since I was hurting so badly, I thought that I

> > > > > would try it and see if

> > > > > > > it would help

> > > > > > > me. I also found my Prescription for

> > > > > Nutritional Healing (you can find

> > > > > > > these in

> > > > > > > Walgreens, Sam's Wholesale Club, many

> > > > > nutrition stores. I looked up

> > > > > > > Lupus

> > > > > > > because I figured that it was similar to RA.

> > > > > It's recommendations were

> > > > > > > similar.

> > > > > > > The Nutritional Healing book said to eat

> > > > > asparagus, eggs, garlic and

> > > > > > > onions.

> > > > > > > Eat brown rice, fish, green leafy vegetables,

> > > > > nonacidic fresh fruits,

> > > > > > > oatmeal,

> > > > > > > and whole grains. It also said to avoid

> > > > > tobacco, paprika, everything

> > > > > > > that

> > > > > > > contains sugar, no nighshad vegetables - white

> > > > > potatoes, tomatoes,

> > > > > > > eggplant,

> > > > > > > peppers. Avoid eating alfalfa sprouts.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Eat fresh pineapple frequently as it is

> > > > > excellent for reducing

> > > > > > > inflamation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Also, avoid strong sunlight and avoid using

> > > > > birth control pills.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I had been taking birth control pills almost

> > > > > the entire time...because

> > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > doctor suggested them. I stopped taking them,

> > > > > and I felt a little

> > > > > > > better.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Then, I tried to stay on the above diet. It

> > > > > worked very well.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'm still taking arava and methotrexate;

> > > > > however, I'm in NO PAIN at all

> > > > > > > when

> > > > > > > I follow the diet. However, if I eat anything

> > > > > beside this diet, my RA

> > > > > > > flares up.

> > > > > > > However, the fresh pineapple seems to really

> > > > > help the inflamation.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'm not taking ANYthing for pain anymore...no

> > > > > more celebrex, advils,

> > > > > > > etc.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If anyone is hurting really badly, they might

> > > > > want to try this diet.

> > > > > > > The book

> > > > > > > also gives a list of vitamins to take.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My husband used to bring me a cup of coffee

> > > > > and a chocolate chip bagel

> > > > > > > with

> > > > > > > cream cheese to me in bed each morning for

> > > > > breakfast. So, I was

> > > > > > > starting my

> > > > > > > day with all the wrong stuff.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > If anyone is interested in the remaining of

> > > > > this article about lupus and

> > > > > > > can't find

> > > > > > > the book, e-mail me and I'll try to make a

> > > > > picture of the pages and mail

> > > > > > > them

> > > > > > > to you.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The diet doesn't cost anything and if it helps

> > > > > any of you as much as it

> > > > > > > helped

> > > > > > > me, you'll be glad that you tried it.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > My RA is NOT cured..I'm still taking my

> > > > > medication; however, the diet

> > > > > > > has kept me

> > > > > > > almost pain free for a few weeks now. I'm

> > > > > getting my energy back and my

> > > > > > > outlook

> > > > > > > on life is MUCH better than before.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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