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In a message dated 02/18/02 2:02:03 PM Central Standard Time,

trudie_b@... writes:

> Has anyone had any experience with

> this drug, or any similar antifungals? Any advice? We really would

> appreciate your thoughts.

>

>

I haven't used that antifungal, but I've been on Sporanox for almost 3 months

now (sporanox is considered to be one of the " big guns " ). My dr. told me to

take NAC with it (for my liver) and said I could take milk thistle if I

wanted to. I think one of the problems is that antifungals (prescription

antifungals being the worst) kill off so much toxic matter that the liver is

bombarded with the task of having to eliminate huge amounts at one time. So,

if you take things to assist the liver, the trauma shouldn't be as severe.

Just my thoughts.

annette

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I've tried taking Nizoral (ketoconazole) before but it upset

my stomach too bad.

http://www.hivdent.org/drugs/KETOCONAZOLE.htm

I just came off two months of oral Lamisil and came across

this web site. Interesting info for those taking Lamisil or

Sporanox.

http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/advisory/sporanox-lamisil/advisory.htm

> Has anyone had any experience with

> this drug, or any similar antifungals? Any advice? We

> really would

> appreciate your thoughts.

>

> Trudie & Tony

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The drug In question sounds just that. I think and this is just an opinion

and a gut feeling but anything that causes adverse side effects is better

left alone. Check out this website

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/4966/program.htm. The ladies name is

Tripp and she has a very successful storie with tons of advice recipes

and perhaps the wonder pill. I was able to find a doctor within ten miles

from my house who carries the pill. I live in florida and lives in

canada. I found it amazing that within 10 minutes of reading her story I was

able to link up with a dr who will be able to help me Best Luck to you and

anyone else fighting yeast

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In a message dated 2/20/2002 7:07:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,

sunmyzer@... writes:

> Check out this website

> http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/4966/program.htm. The ladies name is

> Tripp and she has a very successful storie with tons of advice

> recipes

> and perhaps the wonder pill.

I have read this page also. What do you guys think about the diet she says

to follow? Eating cheese only when its cooked, and bread when its toasted?

Has anyone else tried this?

I got inspired when I read this website and bought the " pill " . But I haven't

been taking it alone and have been rotating other antifungals with it.

I haven't tried eating certain of those no, no's...... does anyone have

another opinion?

Roni

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In a message dated 2/20/2002 4:03:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ndth16@... writes:

> What other anti-fungals are you using?

> -Nikki

>

Hi Nikki!!

I have been using SF 722 for one month. I haven't been rotating it because

on her website she said she took it continuously. I'm taking 2 three times a

day. But I am rotating grapefruit seed extract, garlic caps, capryllic acid

(rotating every 7 days). I'm also taking Primal Defense. I just got RM-10

in the mail. Oh and I'm using a liquid vitamin. And someone suggested

taking MSM for my hair loss. And of course, following the diet for 7 weeks.

Also starting putting some fresh garlic on my food.

Anyways, I do feel alot better. I don't know actually what is contributing

to it but something is working!!!

What did your Doc say about rotating SF 722?

Thanks!

Roni

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Hi Roni! I started my quest to rid myself of candida

at Tripp's web site. I purchased Thorne's SF722

from Modern Herbalist.com which I have been on for 40

days now. I asked Dr. Schlesinger at MH about cheese

and bread and he explained that by cooking cheese and

toasting bread you are killing the fungal/yeast

properties in them making them " safe " to eat. I've

been sticking fairly closely to his recommended diet,

which is similar to 's (she got hers from a ND in

Idaho who my mom used) but have stayed away from

cheese and bread anyway, preferring to be safe than

sorry.

Dr. Schlesinger recommends rotating anti-fungals

because the yeast is great at adapting in your system,

so I am going to start rotating in ParaMicrocidin

(grapefruit seed extract) and Candimyacin (goldenseal

root & others), using each for 4 days. I'm hoping to

go for 60 days total and then see what symptoms

remain.

What other anti-fungals are you using?

-Nikki

--- roniron4@... wrote:

> I have read this page also. What do you guys think

> about the diet she says

> to follow? Eating cheese only when its cooked, and

> bread when its toasted? Has anyone else tried this?

> I got inspired when I read this website and bought

> the " pill " . But I haven't

> been taking it alone and have been rotating other

> antifungals with it.

> I haven't tried eating certain of those no,

> no's...... does anyone have another opinion?

> Roni

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Kate,

There is a person who goes by Helping You on the Dr.

Stoll message board who is without question one of the

deepest sources of information about how to

effectively treat Candidiasis. His approach is to

obviously to stick to the diet, take up to 12-15

Primal Defense tablets each day and rotate (4 days

each) the following anti-fungals:

Candibactin

DC3

Mycopryl

*and*

Biocidin

I do not have a source for how to get these agents,

but he mentioned that a Google search under these

names and the word " Candida " would likely point to

places to get them. The rotation is obviously key.

I am tracking these items down now. If I find them, I

will provide you with URL's.

Good luck!

--- Kate Bannon <katebannon@...> wrote:

> Hi Ruth,

>

> Can you tell me the natural anti-fungals that worked

> for you, or are working for you? Thanks.

> Re: anti-fungal questoin

>

>

>

> Hi, Last year the doctor [allergy] wanted to put

> me on Lamisil and I wouldn't take it . thank God for

> that " still small voice " within . Go natural eat no

> sugar and remove most carbs for at least 18 months

> do only natural ant- funguls. Ruth

> Lilly <lillybythebay@...> wrote: I've

> tried taking Nizoral (ketoconazole) before but it

> upset

> my stomach too bad.

> http://www.hivdent.org/drugs/KETOCONAZOLE.htm

>

> I just came off two months of oral Lamisil and

> came across

> this web site. Interesting info for those taking

> Lamisil or

> Sporanox.

>

>

http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/advisory/sporanox-lamisil/advisory.htm

>

> > Has anyone had any experience with

> > this drug, or any similar antifungals? Any

> advice? We

> > really would

> > appreciate your thoughts.

> >

> > Trudie & Tony

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

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I had no ill effects from taking the Lamisil. I just had my

liver enzymes taken last week (along with many other blood

work) and all is normal and good. Though I am far from

being cured though I am glad I took the Lamisil because it

has cut the time it takes to heal. I am closer now to being

cured than I was two months ago. And am very happy with

the results of my having taken prescription Lamisil. If the

drugs are prescribed by a competent physician and followed

up with regularly (by checking your liver enzymes at least

monthly), you should do fine. Also, I found taking liver

cleansing herbs and lots of vitamin C very beneficial while

taking Lamisil. If you can tolerate the long and natural

way to healing - more power to you. But if you are going

crazy scratching your skin off and unable to wear clothes

(like I was) and just totally miserable......then go see a

doctor and get a prescription. :-)

Lilly

Ruth Reul wrote:

>

> Hi, Last year the doctor [allergy] wanted to put me on

> Lamisil and I wouldn't take it . thank God for that " still

> small voice " within . Go natural eat no sugar and remove

> most carbs for at least 18 months do only natural ant-

> funguls. Ruth

> Lilly <lillybythebay@...> wrote: I've tried

> taking Nizoral (ketoconazole) before but it upset

> my stomach too bad.

> http://www.hivdent.org/drugs/KETOCONAZOLE.htm

>

> I just came off two months of oral Lamisil and came across

>

> this web site. Interesting info for those taking Lamisil

> or

> Sporanox.

>

> ttp://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/advisory/sporanox-lamisil/advisory.htm

>

>

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