Re: Twin Labs Yeast Fighters

[Guest guest]

Yes, this is die off! The TL Yeast Fighters are a strong combination.

You're right to lower the dose. Build it up gradually!

Ali

At 09:51 a.m. 12/12/2002 -0800, you wrote:

>Two days ago I took my first dose of Town Labs Yeast Fighters. Since

>things seem to affect me harshly, I started with 3 capsules in stead of

>the recommended 5. After several hours and after I didn't have a reaction

>I took the remain 2 capsules. Again, I didn't feel anything.

[Guest guest]

Thank you Ali!! )

in CA

Re: Twin Labs Yeast Fighters

Yes, this is die off! The TL Yeast Fighters are a strong combination.

You're right to lower the dose. Build it up gradually!

Ali

At 09:51 a.m. 12/12/2002 -0800, you wrote:

>Two days ago I took my first dose of Town Labs Yeast Fighters. Since

>things seem to affect me harshly, I started with 3 capsules in stead of

>the recommended 5. After several hours and after I didn't have a reaction

>I took the remain 2 capsules. Again, I didn't feel anything.

[Guest guest]

, also make sure you're drinking LOTS of water along with taking the

Yeast Fighters! I was thinking a green tea supplement may also help, as it

is very cleansing to the blood. My personal choice is the Nature's Way

green tea extract, as it also combines red clover, an additional blood

cleanser.

Ali

At 10:26 a.m. 12/12/2002 -0800, you wrote:

>, the die-off can indeed be very intense,

>especially if you've harbored lots of candida.

[Guest guest]

Yes , I was in bed for two days, unable to move much. I felt intensely

dizzy and my muscles were like spaghetti. All my candida symptoms multiplied by

10 ! Blechh ! Luckily I felt MUCh better the next morning and could work !

Crappy way to spend a weekend in mid summer tho

Fiona

[Guest guest]

Thank you Ali!!

I don't think I'm drinking enough water any more. And I will get some green tea

when I go to the health food store next. Thanks again!

in CA

[Guest guest]

<< I was in bed for two days, unable to move much. I felt intensely dizzy and my

muscles were like spaghetti. >>

Oh, okay, so you did feel better?? That's good! I took 3 1/2 today and didn't

feel anything so I think tomorrow I will try 4. It'll be a while before I take

5 again! ) I have to be careful because something like will spark a panic

attack... )

in CA

[Guest guest]

I took 8 today!!! It gave me a little bit of die off. I think my candida

has finally reached the 'mild' stage...

Ali

At 05:51 p.m. 13/12/2002 -0800, you wrote:

><< I was in bed for two days, unable to move much. I felt intensely dizzy

>and my muscles were like spaghetti. >>

>

>Oh, okay, so you did feel better?? That's good! I took 3 1/2 today and

>didn't feel anything so I think tomorrow I will try 4. It'll be a while

>before I take 5 again! ) I have to be careful because something like

>will spark a panic attack... )

[Guest guest]

Forgot to mention, I'm supposed to take these for another couple of months

yet, so I hope they don't lose their effectiveness over that time period.

I'm also supposed to take chlorella for a few months, because sometimes the

tongue coating can just be a sign of toxicity that needs to be cleared

(toxins being produced by die-off, and being released from other body

organs as I go through 'detoxification')... Apparently a tongue coating can

appear while you are fasting, and then it disappears again (when it

disappears, it's time to stop the fast). Anyway, the chlorella is supposed

to get me through the detox period.

Is anyone else trying chlorella as an adjunct to their treatment?

Ali

[Guest guest]

Ali,

Yes I finished a large bottle about a month ago, but didn't realise that it

was more beneficial to be on it for a few months. Thanks, I will purchase

more. I am still detoxing & still have the coated tongue however my symptoms

have improved alot.

Leah

>From: Alison <ali-may@...>

>Reply-candidiasis

>candidiasis

>Subject: Re: Twin Labs Yeast Fighters

>Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 15:26:17 +1300

>

>Forgot to mention, I'm supposed to take these for another couple of months

>yet, so I hope they don't lose their effectiveness over that time period.

>

>I'm also supposed to take chlorella for a few months, because sometimes the

>tongue coating can just be a sign of toxicity that needs to be cleared

>(toxins being produced by die-off, and being released from other body

>organs as I go through 'detoxification')... Apparently a tongue coating can

>appear while you are fasting, and then it disappears again (when it

>disappears, it's time to stop the fast). Anyway, the chlorella is supposed

>to get me through the detox period.

>

>Is anyone else trying chlorella as an adjunct to their treatment?

>

>Ali

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's important to remember that herbs and vitamins can take up to 3 months

before they take their full effect through building up in the system. It's

recommended that you experiment with supplements for a few months each!

This surprised me, but I can see the sense in it. Unless of course, you

don't experience any initial die-off - then I would say try something else

until you find something that gives you die-off, then at least you know

it's working!

Ali

At 01:03 p.m. 14/12/2002 +1000, you wrote:

>Ali,

>

>Yes I finished a large bottle about a month ago, but didn't realise that it

>was more beneficial to be on it for a few months. Thanks, I will purchase

>more. I am still detoxing & still have the coated tongue however my symptoms

>have improved alot.

[Guest guest]

Yes, sometimes I forget to be patient. I didn't realise though that they can

take up to 3 months. Thankyou that gives me a better understanding.

Leah

>From: Alison <ali-may@...>

>Reply-candidiasis

>candidiasis

>Subject: Re: Twin Labs Yeast Fighters

>Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 16:07:48 +1300

>

>It's important to remember that herbs and vitamins can take up to 3 months

>before they take their full effect through building up in the system. It's

>recommended that you experiment with supplements for a few months each!

>This surprised me, but I can see the sense in it. Unless of course, you

>don't experience any initial die-off - then I would say try something else

>until you find something that gives you die-off, then at least you know

>it's working!

>

>Ali

>

>At 01:03 p.m. 14/12/2002 +1000, you wrote:

> >Ali,

> >

> >Yes I finished a large bottle about a month ago, but didn't realise that

>it

> >was more beneficial to be on it for a few months. Thanks, I will purchase

> >more. I am still detoxing & still have the coated tongue however my

>symptoms

> >have improved alot.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Good on you Ali, it's good to hear that you are progressing well.

Leah

>From: Alison <ali-may@...>

>Reply-candidiasis

>candidiasis

>Subject: Re: Twin Labs Yeast Fighters

>Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 15:21:41 +1300

>

>I took 8 today!!! It gave me a little bit of die off. I think my candida

>has finally reached the 'mild' stage...

>

>Ali

>

>

>At 05:51 p.m. 13/12/2002 -0800, you wrote:

> ><< I was in bed for two days, unable to move much. I felt intensely dizzy

> >and my muscles were like spaghetti. >>

> >

> >Oh, okay, so you did feel better?? That's good! I took 3 1/2 today and

> >didn't feel anything so I think tomorrow I will try 4. It'll be a while

> >before I take 5 again! ) I have to be careful because something like

> >will spark a panic attack... )

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

<< I took 8 today!!! It gave me a little bit of die off. I think my candida has

finally reached the 'mild' stage...

Ali >>

HOLEY MOLEY!!!!!!!!!! OMG! You took eight???? Wow, I thought I was going to

die when I took the recommended five!! So does that mean that I still have a

Candida over growth if I took 5 and it knocked me off my feet??? (

My chronic fatigue and brain fog have been so much better since doing that M'

Lis 30-day program, but I still feel that I should have more energy and at least

a little more brain power. I'm just so thankful that I've gotten as well as I

have. It was so bad that I was really disabled, couldn't talk very much let

alone work! (

in CA

[Guest guest]

<< I would say try something else

until you find something that gives you die-off, then at least you know

it's working!

Ali >>

So that intense sick feeling was the dieing off and is a good thing? (

in CA

[Guest guest]

Well, I'd already been doing anti-candida stuff for a few months before I

started the Yeast Fighters - so my symptoms were already reduced. I'm still

not 100% energetic and I still have a tongue coating, so I asked the woman

at the health shop what I could do about it - she's a registered nurse and

has also suffered with candida herself, and she recommended the Yeast

Fighters to me.

Because my symptoms were already drastically reduced, she told me to start

off taking 8, to really knock the remaining candida on the head. However, I

thought it was safer to start with the recommended 5, or maybe 6 and work

my way up. I think I started with 6, and got some uncomfortable (but

bearable) die-off. I've been working my way up, and I'm getting zero to

mild die-off at 8 capsules.

It all depends on the individual, and I know that I had already conquered

most of the yeast. The die-off you're getting is at least letting you know

that the capsules are working! You're moving ahead, and that can only be a

good thing.

Ali

>HOLEY MOLEY!!!!!!!!!! OMG! You took eight???? Wow, I thought I was

>going to die when I took the recommended five!! So does that mean that I

>still have a Candida over growth if I took 5 and it knocked me off my

>feet??? (

[Guest guest]

Absolutely, ! These capsules are very strong. Have you tried

reducing the dose, and gradually working your way up to the recommended 5?

If I got such a strong reaction as you, I would start off with 2, then take

three the next day. Take three for a few days, then work up to 4 and then

5. That way you minimise the discomfort of the die-off.

Ali

>So that intense sick feeling was the dieing off and is a good thing? (

[Guest guest]

Hi Ali, I don't use chlorella but I do have liquid chorophyll that

I can drink in water, add to my shakes or whatever. It is very

cleansing and helps to alkalize. I think if it as our beef and such

used to be good for us when they were grass-fed. Then, the owners

got greedy, started feeding them grains and giving them hormones to

promote faster and larger growth, thereby multipying their profits.

Beef and all other species like that were healthy and good for us

until our science and greed got in the way of how to let them live.

> Forgot to mention, I'm supposed to take these for another couple

of months

> yet, so I hope they don't lose their effectiveness over that time

period.

>

> I'm also supposed to take chlorella for a few months, because

sometimes the

> tongue coating can just be a sign of toxicity that needs to be

cleared

> (toxins being produced by die-off, and being released from other

body

> organs as I go through 'detoxification')... Apparently a tongue

coating can

> appear while you are fasting, and then it disappears again (when

it

> disappears, it's time to stop the fast). Anyway, the chlorella is

supposed

> to get me through the detox period.

>

> Is anyone else trying chlorella as an adjunct to their treatment?

>

> Ali

[Guest guest]

Ali,

That's very interesting! So the more the Candida dies off the more Yeast

Fighters that I will have to take? How do I know when it's finally ALL GONE?

I've never felt good or had energy, my entire life so maybe I don't know what

NOT having Candida feels like... (

in CA

[Guest guest]

<< If I got such a strong reaction as you, I would start off with 2, then take

three the next day. Take three for a few days, then work up to 4 and then 5. >>

Well I'm up to 3 3/4 and I get an all over " crappy " feeling all day. Maybe by

the end of next week I'll be up to 5 a day...hehehe Like you said, at least I

know they're working! )

in CA

[Guest guest]

Well, I just take extra because I like to feel the die off and know that

it's working. Plus the lady who told me to take 8 said so, so that I can

kick my remaining candida in the A** !!!

I think we know it's all gone when:

1. There is no die-off, AND switching to another antifungal does not

produce a new wave of die-off.

2. Your tongue is clear

3. Gastrointestinal problems/irregularities have gone away

4. You feel GREAT!!!

Ali

At 08:36 a.m. 15/12/2002 -0800, you wrote:

>Ali,

>That's very interesting! So the more the Candida dies off the more Yeast

>Fighters that I will have to take? How do I know when it's finally ALL

>GONE? I've never felt good or had energy, my entire life so maybe I don't

>know what NOT having Candida feels like... (

> in CA

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ali,

I'm going to be going on yeast fighters very soon. What sort of

specific food do you eat. I mean, I know about avoiding sugars and

such but the little details bog me down. It would be REALLY helpful

to me if you shared your shopping list. It sounds like that

product is working really good for you!

> >Ali,

> >That's very interesting! So the more the Candida dies off the

more Yeast

> >Fighters that I will have to take? How do I know when it's

finally ALL

> >GONE? I've never felt good or had energy, my entire life so maybe

I don't

> >know what NOT having Candida feels like... (

> > in CA

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I have been taking my Yeast Fighters on a full stomach, (since I'm a baby am

afraid of up set stomach if I take on empty stomach) and the bottle doesn't

indicate when to take the capsules, so is it a full or empty stomach do you

think?

in CA

[Guest guest]

Can someone tell me whats in yeast fighters? Are there

several AFs?

--- Alison <ali-may@...> wrote:

> Well, I just take extra because I like to feel the

> die off and know that

> it's working. Plus the lady who told me to take 8

> said so, so that I can

> kick my remaining candida in the A** !!!

>

> I think we know it's all gone when:

> 1. There is no die-off, AND switching to another

> antifungal does not

> produce a new wave of die-off.

> 2. Your tongue is clear

> 3. Gastrointestinal problems/irregularities have

> gone away

> 4. You feel GREAT!!!

>

> Ali

>

> At 08:36 a.m. 15/12/2002 -0800, you wrote:

> >Ali,

> >That's very interesting! So the more the Candida

> dies off the more Yeast

> >Fighters that I will have to take? How do I know

> when it's finally ALL

> >GONE? I've never felt good or had energy, my

> entire life so maybe I don't

> >know what NOT having Candida feels like... (

> > in CA

> >

> >

> >[Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Basically I eat most vegetables, but not brown-skinned potatoes, and I

don't eat beans very often. I eat bananas and apples, but haven't added any

other fruits yet.

Also, plain unsweetened acidophilus yoghurt to which I add sliced almonds,

sesame seeds, and you could also add carob chips to this. I just haven't

gotten around to buying any carob chips yet.

I sweeten with Stevia, and I eat the Stevia Afghans which you can buy from

http://www.eatrightfoods.co.nz They have dates in them (not many though),

so be aware of this if you're not ready for dried fruits.

I bake muffins with flour that isn't white flour - just surf the net for

recipes that sound ok to you! Search " candida recipes " and you should get

some results. I use oat flour, rice flour, and spelt when I'm baking.

Rice cakes with butter are nice, if you have a liking for bland foods

(which I sometimes do).

I also eat chicken and fish.

Also brown rice and wholemeal pasta.

During the early stages of my diet, and at other times, I have resorted to

the " well-heated and eaten hot " rule. That is, melted cheese on toast,

melted cheese on oven-baked red-skinned chips, cheese, onion and tomato

toasties, you get the picture!!! I learned afterwards that you're not

really supposed to do this, but it didn't seem to hinder my progress so I

still do it every now and then. Toasting is supposed to kill the yeast in

the bread, and I'm not sure of the reason why melted hot cheese is

considered ok by some. I read about someone who was totally cured and they

had eaten a LOT of toasted cheese sandwiches during their recovery. So

maybe it's something that works ok for some, but not for everyone.

That's all I can think of right now! I hope this helps!

Ali

At 07:44 p.m. 15/12/2002 +0000, you wrote:

>Ali,

>

>I'm going to be going on yeast fighters very soon. What sort of

>specific food do you eat. I mean, I know about avoiding sugars and

>such but the little details bog me down. It would be REALLY helpful

>to me if you shared your shopping list. It sounds like that

>product is working really good for you!

>

>

[Guest guest]

I take mine on an empty stomach, because I know this way it will REALLY get

to the candida in my colon. If you take it with food, it should enter your

bloodstream and get to the candida that may be there (and hiding in your

other organs).

I think that the usual thing is to take antifungals on an empty stomach for

a while, and then start to take them with food when the colon candida has

been dealt with. I'm not completely sure of the time period for this though

- anyone got some further input?

Ali

At 11:49 a.m. 15/12/2002 -0800, you wrote:

> I have been taking my Yeast Fighters on a full stomach, (since I'm a

> baby am afraid of up set stomach if I take on empty stomach) and the

> bottle doesn't indicate when to take the capsules, so is it a full or

> empty stomach do you think?

> in CA

>

>

>