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Hi Mic,

That was me. Just put how ever many drops it tells you to use in a cup with a

tiny bit of water. That's it. I love the stuff. The best herb I was ever

introduced to.

Also, don't eat or drink anything 10 min before and after.

Lynne

>Someone here mentioned the use of cramp bark for a gurgly stomach. My

>cousin bought cramp bark and is unsure how to take it. She's says it's

>strong like liquor. How should it be diluted? What is the recommended

>dose? I'll check online for her to see what I can find....

>

>Thanks so much!

>Mic

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Thanks!

Mic

>Hi Mic,

>

>That was me. Just put how ever many drops it tells you to use in a cup

>with a tiny bit of water. That's it. I love the stuff. The best herb I

>was ever introduced to.

>Also, don't eat or drink anything 10 min before and after.

>

>Lynne

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> Is Cramp Bark or black haw better to use for menstrual pain than

White Willow?

Why don't you look them up and compare the differences and let us know

what you find out.

Bee

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Cramp bark contains antispasmodic compounds that help to relieve

menstrual cramps, muscle spasms or stiffness. If it fails to relieve

symptoms, the discomfort is probably due to inflammation or irritation

rather than cramping. Black haw is closely related to Cramp bark and

thus has similar properties.

However, I wouldn't recommend either. If the issue is cramping, not

enough magnesium or an imbalance of magnesium to calcium, is more

likely the culprit. So I would think first making sure you are taking

appropriate doses of those minerals would be more beneficial.

Additionally, because antispasmodics may lower blood pressure by

relaxing vessel walls, I would not recommend it for any one with low

blood pressure or adrenal issues.

And as cramp bark wouldn't work for inflammation or irritation, its

use for menstrual pain is limited.

White willow bark, on the other hand, is not only an anti inflammatory

agent, it also has some antifungal properties as well.

However, for cramps, I have found primrose oil to be helpful as well.

An imbalance or inability to synthesize certain Prostaglandins can

lead to an increased inflammatory response. Primrose oil helped me to

mitigate this problem. See

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/tripping.html

for more info on that.

Jecca

--- " renee_crichlow " <renee_crichlow@...> wrote:

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> Is Cramp Bark or black haw better to use for menstrual pain than

White Willow?

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I thought that Evening Primrose was high in Omega 6 and since the diet is

already rich in Omega 6, I thought any supplement that has it should not be

taken.

Bee had also recommended using the White Willow bark in a previous post.

I had also asked about the mag/cal imbalance too. Anyway I do have low blood

pressure so I guess I will work on getting the mag/cal balance correct.

I must note that I still had slight cramping before my period started (this is

usual now) and the usual bad cramping on the start of my period was not bad like

last time.

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> I thought that Evening Primrose was high in Omega 6 and since the

diet is already rich in Omega 6, I thought any supplement that has it

should not be taken.

==>Evening Primrose oil contains a special fatty acid called Gamma-

linolenic acid (GLA) which is very good and helps the body absorb

fats on the Omega-6 side of the fats/oils pathways. In fact I've

been doing some research on it, and I'll be adding it to the program.

>

> Bee had also recommended using the White Willow bark in a previous

post.

==>Yes, is there a question?

>

> I had also asked about the mag/cal imbalance too. Anyway I do have

low blood pressure so I guess I will work on getting the mag/cal

balance correct.

==>You need to ensure you get plenty of ocean sea salt to increase

your blood pressure - at least 1 1/2 teaspoons per day. It also

contains over 84 minerals which are very necessary for electrolytes

(minerals) and mineral and water balancing, proper blood pressure,

etc. - see the article on Salt at my website:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com

> I must note that I still had slight cramping before my period

started (this is usual now) and the usual bad cramping on the start

of my period was not bad like last time.

==>That's great ! You are making some progress.

Bee

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,

I take it, then, that you didn't read the reference I included? Or

maybe the reference wasn't clear? To summarize, the enzyme D6D is

used to convert both linoleic acid (omega 6) and alpha linoleic acids

(omega 3) oils into forms the body uses. The problem with too much

linoleic acid is that if a person consumes a lot of oils that have

high amounts of it, there is little D6D left to convert alpha linoleic

acid which can lead to imbalances. Primrose oil, on the other hand is

high in GAMMA linoleic acid, NOT linoleic acid, so it does not need

D6D to convert it, thus it is less problematic.

Gamma linoleic acid is then converted to dihomo gama linoleic acid

which is used to form some of the prostaglandin that are needed to

regulate inflammation.

That said, if you follow Bee's advice, and eat liver and other organ

meats one won't need primrose since these foods contain dihomo gama

linoleic acid, which requires no conversion for the body to use. For

me though, not having had liver on hand, primrose was helpful to get

me through. That said, I have stocked up on liver, heart, and

gizzards, and plan to eat them to avoid future issues.

You also mentioned that you had asked about mag/cal imbalances? I

guess I missed that question. Bee, however, mentioned a great site in

a previous post

http://www.krispin.com/magnes.html

I found it very helpful in regards to getting a better feel of how to

adjust magnesium if the current ratio a person uses seems to be off.

Jecca

--- Crichlow <renee_crichlow@...> wrote:

I thought that Evening Primrose was high in Omega 6 and since the diet

is already rich in Omega 6, I thought any supplement that has it

should not be taken.

I had also asked about the mag/cal imbalance too. Anyway I do have low

blood pressure so I guess I will work on getting the mag/cal balance

correct...

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