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Hello everyone, I have been lurking on this list for quite some time, and

dont always pay attention to all the posts. I have a real problem and dont

know what to do or where to start. Last June I was diagnosed with

hypothyroidism. In October we got the dosage right to 75mg of Synthriod.

Before the hypothryroidism, I was a ver active person, cheerleader at school,

playing soccer, swimming, I was in very good physical shape. Then Last year

I started to pack on the pounds, for no reason, I was still excerising,

eating right, etc, and I kept gaining weight. So I was diagnosd, and

basically my dr told me that by taking the pills I would be back to normal

within a year. Well, I am getting progressivly worse, although my blood

tests say otherwise. And I dont know if all this stuff is realted, but I am

guessing it is because blood tests showed that the only thing wrong with me

is that I am hypothyriod. My skin is awful, its dry and ver sensitive, never

used to be that way. I am growing hair in places Ive never grown hair

before, which is rather embarrasing when I get intimate with my boyfriend.

My periods have pretty much stopped, but now Im on the pill to get my periods

( does this mean I'll never have kids??) All my joints hurt, I was on some

meds for that but it never helped. I had never had any of these problems

before. I am only 18.... and I am starting to go crazy. I feel like my

body belongs to someone else, and it is starting mto make me very depressed

to the point where I stopped going to work, I dont hang out with my friends

anymore... and my doctor says oh yea give it a year... but things arent

getting better they are getting worse! PLease if anyone has any suggestions

or adivece, or has experienced any of this, could you please contact me? I

am going out of my mind! TIA.

nne

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Hi nn,

Sorry to hear you're going through such a tough time. I'm 42 and have been

hypothyroid for almost 30 years now. Several months ago, after basically

going through similar symptoms which you're experiencing, I started doing

some research and found several articles and information on Shomon's,

Thyroid Guide website -- http://thyroid.about.com. The information which

caught my attention was regarding adding T3 to the T4 medication. I went

to my doctor and he prescribed Thyrolar (which has both T3 and T4 hormones)

whereas synthroid only has T4. Since then, I no longer feel brain fog,

depression, no more joint or body aches, and my hair and nails are no

longer brittle and dry.

There are other medication options (please refer to the website so that you

can read about the alternatives) but I would suggest you read up on it and

see if you think this would benefit you.

Good luck and my prayers are with you. Ann

At 04:22 PM 2/21/00 EST, you wrote:

>From: Maeday17@...

>

>Hello everyone, I have been lurking on this list for quite some time, and

>dont always pay attention to all the posts. I have a real problem and dont

>know what to do or where to start. Last June I was diagnosed with

>hypothyroidism. In October we got the dosage right to 75mg of Synthriod.

>Before the hypothryroidism, I was a ver active person, cheerleader at

school,

>playing soccer, swimming, I was in very good physical shape. Then Last year

>I started to pack on the pounds, for no reason, I was still excerising,

>eating right, etc, and I kept gaining weight. So I was diagnosd, and

>basically my dr told me that by taking the pills I would be back to normal

>within a year. Well, I am getting progressivly worse, although my blood

>tests say otherwise. And I dont know if all this stuff is realted, but I am

>guessing it is because blood tests showed that the only thing wrong with me

>is that I am hypothyriod. My skin is awful, its dry and ver sensitive,

never

>used to be that way. I am growing hair in places Ive never grown hair

>before, which is rather embarrasing when I get intimate with my boyfriend.

>My periods have pretty much stopped, but now Im on the pill to get my

periods

>( does this mean I'll never have kids??) All my joints hurt, I was on some

>meds for that but it never helped. I had never had any of these problems

>before. I am only 18.... and I am starting to go crazy. I feel like my

>body belongs to someone else, and it is starting mto make me very depressed

>to the point where I stopped going to work, I dont hang out with my friends

>anymore... and my doctor says oh yea give it a year... but things arent

>getting better they are getting worse! PLease if anyone has any suggestions

>or adivece, or has experienced any of this, could you please contact me? I

>am going out of my mind! TIA.

>

>nne

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Hi, Its , hang in ok, this seems to be a normal thing that a lot of us

sufferers feel , I didnt realise until I started a local group for us as I

felt like I was going mad, I think theres a lot of reasons but our bodys go

into a slow down and I think its takes a lot of fine tunning to get the

levels right,yes you will have Children, my friend is having her baby any

day and has been ill years now is fine, healthy baby and she is well, keep

to your Doctors advice, go back if your not happy, sometimes we need

slightly more or less and bllod tests are good but we must also go how we

feel, remember that you will be well , I have cried a million tears in the

past over this Thyroid, my friend wrote a book called tears behind closed

doors, its a best seller here in England and I asked her why she called it

that and she said she did all her crying at home in case people would think

her mad, today she is healthy and a picture of health, if you want E mail me

when you wish, im only a sufferer but we all can give each other hope.

best wishes

>Reply-hypothyroidismonelist

>hypothyroidismonelist

>Subject: can someone help me PLEASE????

>Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 16:22:08 EST

>

>Hello everyone, I have been lurking on this list for quite some time, and

>dont always pay attention to all the posts. I have a real problem and dont

>know what to do or where to start. Last June I was diagnosed with

>hypothyroidism. In October we got the dosage right to 75mg of Synthriod.

>Before the hypothryroidism, I was a ver active person, cheerleader at

>school,

>playing soccer, swimming, I was in very good physical shape. Then Last

>year

>I started to pack on the pounds, for no reason, I was still excerising,

>eating right, etc, and I kept gaining weight. So I was diagnosd, and

>basically my dr told me that by taking the pills I would be back to normal

>within a year. Well, I am getting progressivly worse, although my blood

>tests say otherwise. And I dont know if all this stuff is realted, but I am

>guessing it is because blood tests showed that the only thing wrong with me

>is that I am hypothyriod. My skin is awful, its dry and ver sensitive,

>never

>used to be that way. I am growing hair in places Ive never grown hair

>before, which is rather embarrasing when I get intimate with my boyfriend.

>My periods have pretty much stopped, but now Im on the pill to get my

>periods

>( does this mean I'll never have kids??) All my joints hurt, I was on some

>meds for that but it never helped. I had never had any of these problems

>before. I am only 18.... and I am starting to go crazy. I feel like my

>body belongs to someone else, and it is starting mto make me very depressed

>to the point where I stopped going to work, I dont hang out with my friends

>anymore... and my doctor says oh yea give it a year... but things arent

>getting better they are getting worse! PLease if anyone has any

>suggestions

>or adivece, or has experienced any of this, could you please contact me? I

>am going out of my mind! TIA.

>

>nne

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Hi nne,

Hormones can really throw your body out of whack. It is possible that the

thyroid is being undertreated, but not too likely. What about your other

hormones, specifically estrogen and progesterone? If you have too much

estrogen circulating in your body and not enough progesterone to

counterbalance it, the inbalance can create alot of the symptoms you are

having. Have you spoken to your doctor about how you are feeling? I would

strongly suggest you get your estrogen and progesterone checked out. The

excess estrogen can also have a slowing affect on the thyroid. The other

hormones that could be causing some problems is the adrenals, so that might

be an area to check out also.

I hope this is helpful, and I am so sorry you are experiencing these very

unpleasant symptoms.

Let me know how you do and please get those other hormones tested.

Sandy

>From: Maeday17@...

>

>Hello everyone, I have been lurking on this list for quite some time, and

>dont always pay attention to all the posts. I have a real problem and dont

>know what to do or where to start. Last June I was diagnosed with

>hypothyroidism. In October we got the dosage right to 75mg of Synthriod.

>Before the hypothryroidism, I was a ver active person, cheerleader at

school,

>playing soccer, swimming, I was in very good physical shape. Then Last

year

>I started to pack on the pounds, for no reason, I was still excerising,

>eating right, etc, and I kept gaining weight. So I was diagnosd, and

>basically my dr told me that by taking the pills I would be back to normal

>within a year. Well, I am getting progressivly worse, although my blood

>tests say otherwise. And I dont know if all this stuff is realted, but I am

>guessing it is because blood tests showed that the only thing wrong with me

>is that I am hypothyriod. My skin is awful, its dry and ver sensitive,

never

>used to be that way. I am growing hair in places Ive never grown hair

>before, which is rather embarrasing when I get intimate with my boyfriend.

>My periods have pretty much stopped, but now Im on the pill to get my

periods

>( does this mean I'll never have kids??) All my joints hurt, I was on some

>meds for that but it never helped. I had never had any of these problems

>before. I am only 18.... and I am starting to go crazy. I feel like my

>body belongs to someone else, and it is starting mto make me very depressed

>to the point where I stopped going to work, I dont hang out with my friends

>anymore... and my doctor says oh yea give it a year... but things arent

>getting better they are getting worse! PLease if anyone has any

suggestions

>or adivece, or has experienced any of this, could you please contact me? I

>am going out of my mind! TIA.

>

>nne

>

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Hi nne

Being hypothyroid sucks. It makes you feel awful and tired and sad.

People who haven't experienced it will never really understand how it feels

(lucky for them!). The thing that has helped me the most was to get as much

information about the disease as I could find, and to discuss what I

learned with my doctor, and talking to other thyroid patients.

What is your TSH level? It could be in the " normal " range and still be

high for you. For example if the normal range is .35 - 5.0, and your level

is 5.0, technically that is in the normal range, where maybe what is normal

for you is more around 2.0 or lower! So you could still be hypothyroid and

having symptoms even though the results say you have normal TSH levels.

Talk to your doctor about this.

If your doctor is only concerned with the results of your blood tests and

is not listening to you about your other symptoms, Find A New Doctor!! I

am on Doctor #3 right now and was just diagnosed in October. You will find

that doctors can be very different in what they think is important and how

they feel the disease is best managed. Learn everything you can about your

condition so you will be able to discuss things with the doctor and know

whether or not you agree with her style of treatment. Be persistant....if

the doctor doesn't take you seriously or doesn't listen to what you are

saying, then the doctor isn't a good doctor. Get copies of all your test

results and make sure you understand them.

The best book I have read is by Ridha Arem, MD, " The Thyroid Solution " . I

got it on Amazon. I suggest you read it. It explains a lot of things, and

focuses on the emotional aspects of the disease more than any other book,

it will help you to feel less crazy. The depression you say you are

feeling could be a side effect of the hypothyroidism. I have been taking

St. 's Wort and it has been helpful for that. He also talks about the

joint pain and explains it and some treatments. He explains the blood

tests your doctor does and how to understand their results so that you can

better understand what is happening in your body.

Also check out Shomon's site at http://about.thyroid.com which I

think someone else already mentioned. She has tons of info and also great

message boards to talk to others with thyroid problems.

So most of all, get educated and get assertive with your doctor, and change

doctors as much as you have to until you find one you like and who listens

to your symptoms, not just your blood tests. It's difficult, but worth it.

Hang in there, things will definitley get better!!

in peace,

Kristilee

>From: Maeday17@...

>

>Hello everyone, I have been lurking on this list for quite some time, and

>dont always pay attention to all the posts. I have a real problem and dont

>know what to do or where to start. Last June I was diagnosed with

>hypothyroidism. In October we got the dosage right to 75mg of Synthriod.

>Before the hypothryroidism, I was a ver active person, cheerleader at

school,

>playing soccer, swimming, I was in very good physical shape. Then Last

year

>I started to pack on the pounds, for no reason, I was still excerising,

>eating right, etc, and I kept gaining weight. So I was diagnosd, and

>basically my dr told me that by taking the pills I would be back to normal

>within a year. Well, I am getting progressivly worse, although my blood

>tests say otherwise. And I dont know if all this stuff is realted, but I am

>guessing it is because blood tests showed that the only thing wrong with me

>is that I am hypothyriod. My skin is awful, its dry and ver sensitive,

never

>used to be that way. I am growing hair in places Ive never grown hair

>before, which is rather embarrasing when I get intimate with my boyfriend.

>My periods have pretty much stopped, but now Im on the pill to get my

periods

>( does this mean I'll never have kids??) All my joints hurt, I was on some

>meds for that but it never helped. I had never had any of these problems

>before. I am only 18.... and I am starting to go crazy. I feel like my

>body belongs to someone else, and it is starting mto make me very depressed

>to the point where I stopped going to work, I dont hang out with my friends

>anymore... and my doctor says oh yea give it a year... but things arent

>getting better they are getting worse! PLease if anyone has any

suggestions

>or adivece, or has experienced any of this, could you please contact me? I

>am going out of my mind! TIA.

>

>nne

>

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I just wanted to comment that Dr. Arem's book is wonderful and i found out

he was in Houston last year. =) I have been seeing him as my Endo.

My TSH is now at 2.31 but he wants it to be around 1.0 We are working on my

Hashimoto's Disease and PCOS. He wanted to do a biopsy on nodules he was

feeling but they can't find them under ultrasound. This has me worried

right now.

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Dear Kristilee:

Good advice. However, what perhaps you could have said is that a person

needs to look for a doctor of natural healing, not one that is medicallly

trained. medically trained personnel tend to be highly influenced by

pharmaceutical company advertising which urges them to prescribe [sell]

synthetic drugs [$$$].

Hypothyroidism in its simple form is a deficiency of iodine, zinc, B6,

magnesium, selenium and trace elements. This does not require " replacement "

it requires the raw materials. Thyrodine supplies these raw materials and

thereby restores thyroid function.

If there is an auto-immune dysfunction or a thyroiditis, this generally

means that there is a viral or candida infection of the thyroid in which the

viral tissues are perceived as an antigen and anti-bodies are made to

destroy the infected thyroid tissue. In this case a natural antibiotic, like

ImmunoGuard, will eliminate the offending pathogen and then Thyrodine will

restore thyroid function.

If there is a hyperthyroid, thats generally a deficiency syndrome that

requires vitamins A-C-E + the Thyrodine.

RAI is almost never an intelligent option as once a thyroid is destroyed,

its gone forever, generally.

I've had so many people tell of the terrible symptoms they experience from

synthetic hormones, even Armour which is an extract of pig thyroid. Again,

these are " replacement " drugs are are almost never indicated.

Blood tests are notoriously inaccurate. But medically trained personnel

don't know of any other way to gain clues about thyroid function.

's syndrome is a case in point. Dr. found that he had a lot of

patients with overt symptoms of thyroid dysfunction but their blood tests

were all normal. So they probably got tranquilizers.

In my experience of 30 years of dealing with thryoid dysfunction I have seen

literally hundreds of people, mostly women, who have regained a normal life

with abundant energy and an absence of PMS, menopausal symptoms, etc.

On our web site we cover all the possible combinations that follow on from

thyroid dysfunction as a basic cause of ill health.

The web site is www.thyrodine.com

If people really want to regain their energy, their self esteem, their

vibrant health, they will have to learn that health does not come from drugs

and the SAD [standard American diet].

Check out this web site for nutritional data www.hacres.com

Use the data from both these sites and take responsibility for your own

health.

Remenber, medical " misadventures " are documented to cause up to 200,000

deaths a year with billions in hospital costs.

All drugs are harmful, including hormone replacements.

Enough said.

best wishes,

Earl

Re: Can someone help me PLEASE????

From: Kristilee Helmick <kristilee1@...>

Hi nne

Being hypothyroid sucks. It makes you feel awful and tired and sad.

People who haven't experienced it will never really understand how it feels

(lucky for them!). The thing that has helped me the most was to get as much

information about the disease as I could find, and to discuss what I

learned with my doctor, and talking to other thyroid patients.

What is your TSH level? It could be in the " normal " range and still be

high for you. For example if the normal range is .35 - 5.0, and your level

is 5.0, technically that is in the normal range, where maybe what is normal

for you is more around 2.0 or lower! So you could still be hypothyroid and

having symptoms even though the results say you have normal TSH levels.

Talk to your doctor about this.

If your doctor is only concerned with the results of your blood tests and

is not listening to you about your other symptoms, Find A New Doctor!! I

am on Doctor #3 right now and was just diagnosed in October. You will find

that doctors can be very different in what they think is important and how

they feel the disease is best managed. Learn everything you can about your

condition so you will be able to discuss things with the doctor and know

whether or not you agree with her style of treatment. Be persistant....if

the doctor doesn't take you seriously or doesn't listen to what you are

saying, then the doctor isn't a good doctor. Get copies of all your test

results and make sure you understand them.

The best book I have read is by Ridha Arem, MD, " The Thyroid Solution " . I

got it on Amazon. I suggest you read it. It explains a lot of things, and

focuses on the emotional aspects of the disease more than any other book,

it will help you to feel less crazy. The depression you say you are

feeling could be a side effect of the hypothyroidism. I have been taking

St. 's Wort and it has been helpful for that. He also talks about the

joint pain and explains it and some treatments. He explains the blood

tests your doctor does and how to understand their results so that you can

better understand what is happening in your body.

Also check out Shomon's site at http://about.thyroid.com which I

think someone else already mentioned. She has tons of info and also great

message boards to talk to others with thyroid problems.

So most of all, get educated and get assertive with your doctor, and change

doctors as much as you have to until you find one you like and who listens

to your symptoms, not just your blood tests. It's difficult, but worth it.

Hang in there, things will definitley get better!!

in peace,

Kristilee

>From: Maeday17@...

>

>Hello everyone, I have been lurking on this list for quite some time, and

>dont always pay attention to all the posts. I have a real problem and dont

>know what to do or where to start. Last June I was diagnosed with

>hypothyroidism. In October we got the dosage right to 75mg of Synthriod.

>Before the hypothryroidism, I was a ver active person, cheerleader at

school,

>playing soccer, swimming, I was in very good physical shape. Then Last

year

>I started to pack on the pounds, for no reason, I was still excerising,

>eating right, etc, and I kept gaining weight. So I was diagnosd, and

>basically my dr told me that by taking the pills I would be back to normal

>within a year. Well, I am getting progressivly worse, although my blood

>tests say otherwise. And I dont know if all this stuff is realted, but I am

>guessing it is because blood tests showed that the only thing wrong with me

>is that I am hypothyriod. My skin is awful, its dry and ver sensitive,

never

>used to be that way. I am growing hair in places Ive never grown hair

>before, which is rather embarrasing when I get intimate with my boyfriend.

>My periods have pretty much stopped, but now Im on the pill to get my

periods

>( does this mean I'll never have kids??) All my joints hurt, I was on some

>meds for that but it never helped. I had never had any of these problems

>before. I am only 18.... and I am starting to go crazy. I feel like my

>body belongs to someone else, and it is starting mto make me very depressed

>to the point where I stopped going to work, I dont hang out with my friends

>anymore... and my doctor says oh yea give it a year... but things arent

>getting better they are getting worse! PLease if anyone has any

suggestions

>or adivece, or has experienced any of this, could you please contact me? I

>am going out of my mind! TIA.

>

>nne

>

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