Guest guest Posted November 29, 2002 Report Share Posted November 29, 2002 Hello Bunny, I have no thyroid. I was ok for a year after the removal it took about 4 months to get used to the t4 . I was ok for about a year then in November 2001 I noticed calf muscle cramp, this moved to my neck and wrists . Then I become sensitive like you to everything. Travelling on our underground I could smell people it was crazy, If I went to a shopping centre I could not stand Perfume and those shops that sell natural soap it was all too much for me. I can remember cutting up some cardboard and the smell was terrible. I tried everything t3, armour, Grandulars. nothing worked. Then My endo started me on a small dose of t4 again just 50 mcg, then when I go use to it I took more etc.. after about four months I am just getting back to normal. What caused this I dont know. I am a lot better but still getting tired and my weight has not dropped as yet. Best regards C Uk Since my thyroid started acting up in the beginning of this year, I've developed a great sensitivity to smells, which have been resulting in horrible sinus headaches. Such scents include perfume, incense oils/sticks/cones, scented candles, many cleaning products, aroma therapy items and even certain strong, sweet smells of food or candy. It has gotten to the point where my mother is annoyed because she can't make herself or her house smell pretty, and every time I walk into a mall or store with such items being sprayed or sold, I leave with a sinus type headache (which could also be a migraine, I'm really not sure) that lasts for the rest of the day. The main reason I link this to my thyroid is because my mother recalls having similar problems when her own started dysfunctioning about five years ago. It's really starting to disrupt my quality of life, but my doctor blows it off as nothing. I already take Allegra-D which is a combo of an antihistamine and decongestant, but yet I feel these headaches between my eyes and the only thing that really helps is sudafed accompanied by acetaminophen. Now this brews a problem because I know that I shouldn't be taking more decongestant on top of the Allegra-D, and also such products shouldn't even be taken by people with thyroid disorder in the first place. use of is subject to the Terms of Service <> . ********************************************************************** This message may contain information which is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message and any attachments without retaining a copy. ********************************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2002 Report Share Posted November 29, 2002 I have Fibromyalgia which some think is actually Hypothyroidism (or from it) and one thing I have is chemical sensitivity. Exhaust fumes bother me most. I smell them when others don't. Jeanie RE: Sinus Headache, Scents + Allergies Hello Bunny, I have no thyroid. I was ok for a year after the removal it took about 4 months to get used to the t4 . I was ok for about a year then in November 2001 I noticed calf muscle cramp, this moved to my neck and wrists . Then I become sensitive like you to everything. Travelling on our underground I could smell people it was crazy, If I went to a shopping centre I could not stand Perfume and those shops that sell natural soap it was all too much for me. I can remember cutting up some cardboard and the smell was terrible. I tried everything t3, armour, Grandulars. nothing worked. Then My endo started me on a small dose of t4 again just 50 mcg, then when I go use to it I took more etc.. after about four months I am just getting back to normal. What caused this I dont know. I am a lot better but still getting tired and my weight has not dropped as yet. Best regards C Uk Since my thyroid started acting up in the beginning of this year, I've developed a great sensitivity to smells, which have been resulting in horrible sinus headaches. Such scents include perfume, incense oils/sticks/cones, scented candles, many cleaning products, aroma therapy items and even certain strong, sweet smells of food or candy. It has gotten to the point where my mother is annoyed because she can't make herself or her house smell pretty, and every time I walk into a mall or store with such items being sprayed or sold, I leave with a sinus type headache (which could also be a migraine, I'm really not sure) that lasts for the rest of the day. The main reason I link this to my thyroid is because my mother recalls having similar problems when her own started dysfunctioning about five years ago. It's really starting to disrupt my quality of life, but my doctor blows it off as nothing. I already take Allegra-D which is a combo of an antihistamine and decongestant, but yet I feel these headaches between my eyes and the only thing that really helps is sudafed accompanied by acetaminophen. Now this brews a problem because I know that I shouldn't be taking more decongestant on top of the Allegra-D, and also such products shouldn't even be taken by people with thyroid disorder in the first place. use of is subject to the Terms of Service <> . ********************************************************************** This message may contain information which is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message and any attachments without retaining a copy. ********************************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2002 Report Share Posted November 29, 2002 I have been taking Allegra since February ...please explain...why you shouldnt be taking this with hypothyroidism? " Codling, " <john.codling@...> wrote: Hello Bunny, I have no thyroid. I was ok for a year after the removal it took about 4 months to get used to the t4 .. I was ok for about a year then in November 2001 I noticed calf muscle cramp, this moved to my neck and wrists . Then I become sensitive like you to everything. Travelling on our underground I could smell people it was crazy, If I went to a shopping centre I could not stand Perfume and those shops that sell natural soap it was all too much for me. I can remember cutting up some cardboard and the smell was terrible. I tried everything t3, armour, Grandulars. nothing worked. Then My endo started me on a small dose of t4 again just 50 mcg, then when I go use to it I took more etc.. after about four months I am just getting back to normal. What caused this I dont know. I am a lot better but still getting tired and my weight has not dropped as yet. Best regards C Uk Since my thyroid started acting up in the beginning of this year, I've developed a great sensitivity to smells, which have been resulting in horrible sinus headaches. Such scents include perfume, incense oils/sticks/cones, scented candles, many cleaning products, aroma therapy items and even certain strong, sweet smells of food or candy. It has gotten to the point where my mother is annoyed because she can't make herself or her house smell pretty, and every time I walk into a mall or store with such items being sprayed or sold, I leave with a sinus type headache (which could also be a migraine, I'm really not sure) that lasts for the rest of the day. The main reason I link this to my thyroid is because my mother recalls having similar problems when her own started dysfunctioning about five years ago. It's really starting to disrupt my quality of life, but my doctor blows it off as nothing. I already take Allegra-D which is a combo of an antihistamine and decongestant, but yet I feel these headaches between my eyes and the only thing that really helps is sudafed accompanied by acetaminophen. Now this brews a problem because I know that I shouldn't be taking more decongestant on top of the Allegra-D, and also such products shouldn't even be taken by people with thyroid disorder in the first place. use of is subject to the Terms of Service . ********************************************************************** This message may contain information which is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message and any attachments without retaining a copy. ********************************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2002 Report Share Posted November 29, 2002 I have been taking Allegra since February ...please explain...why you shouldnt be taking this with hypothyroidism? " Codling, " <john.codling@...> wrote:Hello Bunny, I have no thyroid. I was ok for a year after the removal it took about 4 months to get used to the t4 .. I was ok for about a year then in November 2001 I noticed calf muscle cramp, this moved to my neck and wrists . Then I become sensitive like you to everything. Travelling on our underground I could smell people it was crazy, If I went to a shopping centre I could not stand Perfume and those shops that sell natural soap it was all too much for me. I can remember cutting up some cardboard and the smell was terrible. I tried everything t3, armour, Grandulars. nothing worked. Then My endo started me on a small dose of t4 again just 50 mcg, then when I go use to it I took more etc.. after about four months I am just getting back to normal. What caused this I dont know. I am a lot better but still getting tired and my weight has not dropped as yet. Best regards C Uk Since my thyroid started acting up in the beginning of this year, I've developed a great sensitivity to smells, which have been resulting in horrible sinus headaches. Such scents include perfume, incense oils/sticks/cones, scented candles, many cleaning products, aroma therapy items and even certain strong, sweet smells of food or candy. It has gotten to the point where my mother is annoyed because she can't make herself or her house smell pretty, and every time I walk into a mall or store with such items being sprayed or sold, I leave with a sinus type headache (which could also be a migraine, I'm really not sure) that lasts for the rest of the day. The main reason I link this to my thyroid is because my mother recalls having similar problems when her own started dysfunctioning about five years ago. It's really starting to disrupt my quality of life, but my doctor blows it off as nothing. I already take Allegra-D which is a combo of an antihistamine and decongestant, but yet I feel these headaches between my eyes and the only thing that really helps is sudafed accompanied by acetaminophen. Now this brews a problem because I know that I shouldn't be taking more decongestant on top of the Allegra-D, and also such products shouldn't even be taken by people with thyroid disorder in the first place. use of is subject to the Terms of Service . ********************************************************************** This message may contain information which is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message and any attachments without retaining a copy. ********************************************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2002 Report Share Posted November 29, 2002 Bunny - I would be careful with antihistamines. Don't know why - but I've read in herbal type books (Like the Prescription for Nutritional Healing) to be careful taking antihistamines. Never have figured out why - but my hypo problems started showing up after my doctor prescribed atarax for hives and to help me sleep. I was on them for a while. I've had problems brewing under the surface for a long time, but that was when it all showed up. But I was getting hives every winter. From what I've been reading allergies are part of the autoimmune response (and or a toxic liver) (as would the aversion and reaction to smells be likely) so you may want to check out this site www.theimmunesystemcure.com They sell a product on there called Moducare that I understand helps balance things out. I have some on order. I found it for a better price at www.americannutrition.com for Moducare. I don't have an experience with it to share, yet, but I hear great things from people who have. Worth looking in to. Jeanie Sinus Headache, Scents + Allergies Since my thyroid started acting up in the beginning of this year, I've developed a great sensitivity to smells, which have been resulting in horrible sinus headaches. Such scents include perfume, incense oils/sticks/cones, scented candles, many cleaning products, aroma therapy items and even certain strong, sweet smells of food or candy. It has gotten to the point where my mother is annoyed because she can't make herself or her house smell pretty, and every time I walk into a mall or store with such items being sprayed or sold, I leave with a sinus type headache (which could also be a migraine, I'm really not sure) that lasts for the rest of the day. The main reason I link this to my thyroid is because my mother recalls having similar problems when her own started dysfunctioning about five years ago. It's really starting to disrupt my quality of life, but my doctor blows it off as nothing. I already take Allegra-D which is a combo of an antihistamine and decongestant, but yet I feel these headaches between my eyes and the only thing that really helps is sudafed accompanied by acetaminophen. Now this brews a problem because I know that I shouldn't be taking more decongestant on top of the Allegra-D, and also such products shouldn't even be taken by people with thyroid disorder in the first place. Now there are my questions: -Does decongestants such as pseudoephedrine effect anyone with a thyroid disorder, or just people taking synthetic thyroid? -Has anyone else experienced these headache sensitivities, and if so, did they seem to go away or get better once your thyroid was treated? -I also have a sensitivity to food and drinks with sulfates, such as cheese, that has only really developed this year. Has anyone developed this problem as well? -Has anyone noticed their sinus allergies worsen with thyroid dysfunction? As I write this, I'm sitting her with a box of tissues attempting to stop the running of my nose which has persisted every day for almost a month now. It's like living with a head cold. -Bunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 , Specifically the Allegra-D is bad for those with hypothyroidism. It's the decongestant in it (which is what the D stands for). If you look on a box of sudafed, or anything containing it such as Tylenol Allergy, you will actually find a warning that people with thyroid disorders should not take it. The reason for this is that the pseudoephedrine speeds up certain things in your body, such as your heart. Now I don't know if it effects the thyroid itself, but I do know it will interact with synthetic thyroid drugs. It can actually throw you into hyper. I'm blessed with a Pharmacist as a step father -Bunny wrote: > I have been taking Allegra since February ...please explain...why you shouldnt be taking this with hypothyroidism? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 Thanks for that Bunny. I still wonder about the actual antihistamine part, though. It has something to do with the immune response (histamines) so maybe that has something to do with it too. Jeanie Re: Sinus Headache, Scents + Allergies , Specifically the Allegra-D is bad for those with hypothyroidism. It's the decongestant in it (which is what the D stands for). If you look on a box of sudafed, or anything containing it such as Tylenol Allergy, you will actually find a warning that people with thyroid disorders should not take it. The reason for this is that the pseudoephedrine speeds up certain things in your body, such as your heart. Now I don't know if it effects the thyroid itself, but I do know it will interact with synthetic thyroid drugs. It can actually throw you into hyper. I'm blessed with a Pharmacist as a step father -Bunny wrote: > I have been taking Allegra since February ...please explain...why you shouldnt be taking this with hypothyroidism? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2002 Report Share Posted November 30, 2002 My allergies were also quite bad and I had greater sensitivity to chemicals and toxins. At one time I had allergy tests and tested allergic to everything. I had hives and itching, headaches, the sinus problems etc... I radically altered my diet - removed all preservatives and processed foods, sugars and stimulants (ie: coffee), wheat and diary (common allergins) and started a host of suppliments. Things are much, much better. I think the issue is your body is giving you a message - listen!. Are car fumes and sulfates any good for anyone? Drugs may help with symptoms temporarily, but they are not the solution. > Now there are my questions: > -Does decongestants such as pseudoephedrine effect anyone with a thyroid disorder, or just people taking synthetic thyroid? > -Has anyone else experienced these headache sensitivities, and if so, did they seem to go away or get better once your thyroid was treated? > -I also have a sensitivity to food and drinks with sulfates, such as > cheese, that has only really developed this year. Has anyone developed this problem as well? > -Has anyone noticed their sinus allergies worsen with thyroid > dysfunction? > -Bunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2002 Report Share Posted December 1, 2002 In a message dated 11/29/2002 2:40:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, SadisticAngel@... writes: Dear Bunny, > -Has anyone else experienced these headache sensitivities, and if so, > did they seem to go away or get better once your thyroid was treated? > > >> -I also have a sensitivity to food and drinks with sulfates, such as >> cheese, that has only really developed this year. Has anyone developed >> this problem as well? >> I used to have many headaches and chemical/food sensitivities. I don't know for sure if they're related to thryoid dysfunction but I had to get extra help to relieve them even after being on thyroid medicine. I found an allergy treatment protocol that is simple, effective, painless, fairly inexpensive, and long lasting. It's based on acupuncture and the Chinese Meridian System though it is NOT acupuncture only based on its traditions. It's called <A HREF= " www.naet.com " >NAET</A>. Many chiropractors, some nutritionists, and some psychotherapists use it. I've been getting treatments for the last three years or so from my chiro and have eliminated most of my main allergies to foods, perfumes, gasoline fumes, hormones, etc. I have virtually eliminated sinus headaches from strong odors and airborn pollens. I can also eat most anything I want now. Check it out! It's likely that some health care professional near you practices it! in LA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2002 Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 Bunny, The warning label you're referring to is meant mainly for those with an overactive thyroid. The reason for this is that the psueudoephedrine (aka ephedra or ma huang) would further speed up an already overactive metabolism and possibly cause a coronary incident. Those of us who are hypo should have no problems taking decongestants. Best wishes, Celeste Bunny Sandefur wrote: > Specifically the Allegra-D is bad for those with hypothyroidism. It's the decongestant in it (which is what the D stands for). If you look on a box of sudafed, or anything containing it such as Tylenol Allergy, you will actually find a warning that people with thyroid disorders should not take it. The reason for this is that the pseudoephedrine speeds up certain things in your body, such as your heart. Now I don't > know if it effects the thyroid itself, but I do know it will interact with synthetic thyroid drugs. It can actually throw you into hyper. I'm blessed with a Pharmacist as a step father > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2002 Report Share Posted December 2, 2002 I react to Sudafed and I'm hypo. Makes my heart skip. It could affect people with adrenal problems, too, which is very common amongst hypos (people with corresponding adrenal problems) cause they often go hand in hand. Jeanie Re: Sinus Headache, Scents + Allergies Bunny, The warning label you're referring to is meant mainly for those with an overactive thyroid. The reason for this is that the psueudoephedrine (aka ephedra or ma huang) would further speed up an already overactive metabolism and possibly cause a coronary incident. Those of us who are hypo should have no problems taking decongestants. Best wishes, Celeste Bunny Sandefur wrote: > Specifically the Allegra-D is bad for those with hypothyroidism. It's the decongestant in it (which is what the D stands for). If you look on a box of sudafed, or anything containing it such as Tylenol Allergy, you will actually find a warning that people with thyroid disorders should not take it. The reason for this is that the pseudoephedrine speeds up certain things in your body, such as your heart. Now I don't > know if it effects the thyroid itself, but I do know it will interact with synthetic thyroid drugs. It can actually throw you into hyper. I'm blessed with a Pharmacist as a step father > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2002 Report Share Posted December 4, 2002 , Thank you very much for recommendation. I have been watching this mailing list for a few months now and have actually book marked the NAET previously when you mentioned it, though haven't gone through the steps of finding someone yet. I will do so ASAP and let you, as well as everyone else here, know how it goes. -Bunny annah1149@... wrote: > In a message dated 11/29/2002 2:40:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, > SadisticAngel@... writes: > > Dear Bunny, > > > -Has anyone else experienced these headache sensitivities, and if so, > > did they seem to go away or get better once your thyroid was treated? > > > > >> -I also have a sensitivity to food and drinks with sulfates, such as > >> cheese, that has only really developed this year. Has anyone developed > >> this problem as well? > >> > > I used to have many headaches and chemical/food sensitivities. I don't know > for sure if they're related to thryoid dysfunction but I had to get extra > help to relieve them even after being on thyroid medicine. > > I found an allergy treatment protocol that is simple, effective, painless, > fairly inexpensive, and long lasting. It's based on acupuncture and the > Chinese Meridian System though it is NOT acupuncture only based on its > traditions. It's called <A HREF= " www.naet.com " >NAET</A>. Many chiropractors, some nutritionists, and > some psychotherapists use it. I've been getting treatments for the last > three years or so from my chiro and have eliminated most of my main allergies > to foods, perfumes, gasoline fumes, hormones, etc. I have virtually > eliminated sinus headaches from strong odors and airborn pollens. I can also > eat most anything I want now. Check it out! It's likely that some health > care professional near you practices it! > > in LA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2002 Report Share Posted December 5, 2002 In a message dated 12/4/2002 10:46:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, SadisticAngel@... writes: > I have been watching this mailing list for a few months now and > have actually book marked the NAET previously when you mentioned it, though > haven't gone through the > steps of finding someone yet. I will do so ASAP Dear Bunny, Good luck! I hope you have as much success with it as I have! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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