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> From: " JJCathcart " <JJCATHCART@...>

> Date: Sun 09/Mar/2003 16:44 GMT

> <PBC_Digest-owner >,

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> Subject: [ ] Lactose Intolerance

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> http://www.gastro.org/public/brochures/lactose.html

> Even though lactose intolerance is a widespread problem, it need not pose a

serious threat to good health. People who have trouble digesting lactose can

learn, by testing themselves, which dairy products and other foods they can eat

without discomfort and which ones they should avoid. Many will be able to enjoy

milk, ice cream, and other such products if they take them in small amounts or

eat other kinds of food at the same time. Others can use lactase liquid or

tablets to help digest the lactose. Even older women and children who must avoid

milk and foods made with milk can meet most of their special dietary needs by

eating greens, fish, and other calcium-rich foods that are free of lactose. A

carefully chosen diet (with calcium supplements if the doctor recommends them)

is the key to reducing symptoms and protecting future health.

>

> Lactose intolerance is the inability to digest significant amounts of lactose,

which is the predominant sugar of milk. Close to 50 million American adults are

lactose intolerant. Certain ethnic and racial populations are more widely

affected than others. As many as 75 percent of all African-American, Jewish,

Native American, and Mexican-American adults, and 90 percent of Asian-American

adults are lactose intolerant. The condition is least common among people of

northern European descent.

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> What Causes Lactose Intolerance?

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> Lactose intolerance results from a shortage of the enzyme lactase, which is

normally produced by the cells that line the small intestine. Lactase breaks

down milk sugar into simpler forms that can then be absorbed into the blood

stream. When there is not enough lactase to digest the amount of lactose

consumed, the results, although not usually dangerous, may be very distressing.

>

> Common symptoms include nausea, cramps, bloating, gas, and diarrhea, which

begin about 30 minutes to two hours after eating or drinking foods containing

lactose. Many people who have never been diagnosed as lactose intolerant or

" lactase deficient " may notice that milk and other dairy products cause problems

that don't occur when eating other foods. The severity of symptoms varies

depending on the amount of lactose each individual can tolerate.

>

> Some causes of lactose intolerance are well known. For instance, certain

digestive diseases and injuries to the small intestine can reduce the amount of

enzymes produced. In rare cases, children are born without the ability to

produce lactase. For most people, though, lactase deficiency is a condition that

develops naturally, over time. After about the age of two years, the body begins

to produce less lactase. The reasons for this are unclear and still under study.

However, symptoms may occur years after childhood.

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> What Diagnostic Tests are Used to Detect Lactose Intolerance?

>

> The most common tests used to measure the absorption of lactose in the

digestive system are the lactose intolerance test, the hydrogen breath test, and

the stool acidity test. A doctor can tell you where to go for these tests, which

are performed on an outpatient basis at a hospital or clinic. A clinical

response to lactose restriction may also be sufficient, at times

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> Steve knight <steve@...> wrote:

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> I am extremely lactose

> intolerant. If I even put a little milk in my coffee I will get so

> sick and irritated in my bowels. But I can eat both cream and butter

> with no problems at all. I often put whipped cream on my fruit so

> that my body will process the sugar slower. It's a great trick that

> my mom taught me. She is also extremely lactose intolerant.

Steve, lactose intolerance can be reduced or eliminated by increasing

bowel health. A correct bowel population of the probiotic bacteria

bifidobacteria and lactobacilli then use it up before it becomes a

problem.

You correct your bowel population with inulin and inulin-containing

foods.

regards,

Duncan Crow

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* Steve, lactose intolerance can be reduced or eliminated by

increasing

bowel health. A correct bowel population of the probiotic bacteria

bifidobacteria and lactobacilli then use it up before it becomes a

problem.

Got the wrong guy. Me I have it because I have leaky gut. I am allergic to

almost anything that has carbs in it and most milk products all grains and

fruits and assorted other things.

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I looked up inulin on a web search and came up with this page

recommending to stay far away from inulin products. (skip to conclusion

at the bottom of the page for a quick summary).

http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/conspiracy/conspiracy.html

Duncan Crow wrote:

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> > Steve knight <steve@...> wrote:

> >

> > I am extremely lactose

> > intolerant. If I even put a little milk in my coffee I will get so

> > sick and irritated in my bowels. But I can eat both cream and

> butter

> > with no problems at all. I often put whipped cream on my fruit so

> > that my body will process the sugar slower. It's a great trick that

>

> > my mom taught me. She is also extremely lactose intolerant.

>

> Steve, lactose intolerance can be reduced or eliminated by increasing

> bowel health. A correct bowel population of the probiotic bacteria

> bifidobacteria and lactobacilli then use it up before it becomes a

> problem.

>

> You correct your bowel population with inulin and inulin-containing

> foods.

>

> regards,

>

> Duncan Crow

>

>

>

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So, how did you solve your Candida problem - presumably without probiotics

or inulin?

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> I looked up inulin on a web search and came up with this page

> recommending to stay far away from inulin products. (skip to conclusion

> at the bottom of the page for a quick summary).

>

> http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/conspiracy/conspiracy.html

>

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yes actually... check out the " sucess stories " in the " files " section

of this group.

g

> So, how did you solve your Candida problem - presumably without

probiotics

> or inulin?

>

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> Re: Re: lactose intolerance

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> > I looked up inulin on a web search and came up with this page

> > recommending to stay far away from inulin products. (skip to

conclusion

> > at the bottom of the page for a quick summary).

> >

> > http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/conspiracy/conspiracy.html

> >

> >

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I have made a lot of progress in my Candida, but am still working on it.

I've only been at it for about 2 months. I credit the progress so far

with diet (the usual story of no sweeteners, no yeast products, no

gluten, no milk products, etc.) and Grapefruit Seed Extract. You will

see me post my successes as I go, I am sure. I have tried probiotics and

continue to do so, but have not had luck with it yet. There are a few

factors that could be interfering with its effectiveness which I am

playing with, and I haven't given up on it yet.

Most confusing to me is fruit. For instance, watermelon seems to be

fine, but oranges aren't. I'd be curious to see what people who have

more significant experience than me have found out about which fruits

they tolerate and which they don't. I know it will vary from person to

person and even from moment to moment, but I am wondering if there would

be some patterns of similarity, other than not eating too much of one

thing over a period of time.

wrote:

> So, how did you solve your Candida problem - presumably without

> probiotics

> or inulin?

>

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> Re: Re: lactose intolerance

>

>

> > I looked up inulin on a web search and came up with this page

> > recommending to stay far away from inulin products. (skip to

> conclusion

> > at the bottom of the page for a quick summary).

> >

> > http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/conspiracy/conspiracy.html

> >

> >

>

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A lot of people report being able to tolerate dark berries and not-too-sweet

apples (low glycemic content). All of which are good for you. Turns out

the ole " apple a day " saying was very true.

Re: Re: lactose intolerance

> >

> >

> > > I looked up inulin on a web search and came up with this page

> > > recommending to stay far away from inulin products. (skip to

> > conclusion

> > > at the bottom of the page for a quick summary).

> > >

> > > http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/conspiracy/conspiracy.html

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

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> Got the wrong guy. Me I have it because I have leaky gut. I am

> allergic to almost anything that has carbs in it and most milk

> products all grains and fruits and assorted other things.

Hi Steve,

Sorry, but the message is the same; carbs increase bad bowel

bacteria, and the good bacteria don't do as well on it, and

correcting that may get you to accepting food more normally.

Duncan Crow

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* I looked up inulin on a web search and came up with this page

recommending to stay far away from inulin products. (skip to conclusion

at the bottom of the page for a quick summary).

http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/conspiracy/conspiracy.html

Pretty good page. I wish I could use kefir right now. I was debating on

taking the sugar free fos that I got from Duncan. Well glad I am not doing

it (G)

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> I looked up inulin on a web search and came up with this page

> recommending to stay far away from inulin products. (skip to

> conclusion at the bottom of the page for a quick summary).

>

> http://www.healingcrow.com/ferfun/conspiracy/conspiracy.html

>

The research doesn't support the views of the Specific Carbohydrate

diet. The page you referenced belongs to an adherent of that faith.

regards,

Duncan Crow

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I think Shefy is trying to say that lactose isn't the only problem with dairy

for many people. I know that I have very high IgG reactions to casein and whey.

I am not sure if the cause is any way related to lactose intolerance. Actually I

never thought it would be. I couldn't tolerate milk as a baby, but I wonder if I

had gut damage as an infant, because my mom started feeding me grains VERY

early, like a few weeks old, to help me " sleep better through the night. "

I wonder if I can possibly have fermented dairy, like kefir, once my gut is

healed.

I also wonder if whey is broken down into free form amino acids (and no longer

the whole whey protein) so that I could benefit from whey protein shakes. Rice

now I am using rice protein.

-Olif...who is taking her inulin now. :-)

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, lactose intolerance can be seen as an indicator of bowel

dysbiosis. As bowel culture improves, your lactic acid

(probiotic) bacteria digest the lactose before you can react to

it and also before the pathogenic organisms get it due to your

probiotic organims comprising about a third of the bacterial

fluorish in the colon.

Duncan

> Posted by: " T " avec_tendresses@... avec_tendresses

> Date: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:55 am (PDT)

>

> I am having trouble understanding here. I used to be lactose

> intolerant, apparently, I am no longer, since I have not had a

> reaction in a long time. But, I never thought of that as a danger, I

> thought of it as an inconvenience. All my searches on google show

> the only danger in it to be a possible lack of calcium intake. Whey

> products mentioned by Duncan are available everywhere, in varying

> qualities. Am I missing something here?

>

>

>

>

> But I still believe that leading immuno compromised persons to

> believe that " whey " is good....... this could be very dangerous.

>

> It may be that undenatured whey can deliver nutrients that are healing

> if no immune reactions are experienced. .....but that it could be

> harmful if it does cause immune reactions for some

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Hi,

Thanks, Olif, for commenting on your early start on grains. My

mother started me on them at 10 days old, and I've had health

problems all my life, ranging from severe food allergies (coupled

with allergies to dust, pollen, animals), excema, childhood asthma,

childhood warts, a lifelong battle with my weight, as well as adult-

onset sensitivity to many chemicals, and a problem with cellulte.

I'm not trying to blame Ma, as I was her first and she was trying

to " nourish " me, after being advised not to breastfeed me (evidently

breastfeeding wasn't vogue when I was born). But I have often

wondered how much effect the early start on grains and the lack of

mother's milk had on me, my immunity, and my digestive health.

-Lori

(soon to try undenatured whey and inulin, thanks to Duncan)

>

> I think Shefy is trying to say that lactose isn't the only problem

with dairy for many people. I know that I have very high IgG

reactions to casein and whey. I am not sure if the cause is any way

related to lactose intolerance. Actually I never thought it would

be. I couldn't tolerate milk as a baby, but I wonder if I had gut

damage as an infant, because my mom started feeding me grains VERY

early, like a few weeks old, to help me " sleep better through the

night. "

>

> I wonder if I can possibly have fermented dairy, like kefir, once

my gut is healed.

>

> I also wonder if whey is broken down into free form amino acids

(and no longer the whole whey protein) so that I could benefit from

whey protein shakes. Rice now I am using rice protein.

>

> -Olif...who is taking her inulin now. :-)

>

>

>

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Hi Olif,

The milk you couldn't tolerate as a baby, would that be cow's milk?

In absence of dysbiosis, which causes symptoms of lactose intolerance

in some people, a whey intolerance is almost definitely due to the

bovine-specific components such as casein, and these can be removed

as they are in Immunocal for example (I don't sell Immunocal); the

product is listed in the Physicians Desk Reference for Prescription

Drugs (yes, Immunocal is available under prescription) as being well

tolerated even by severely milk-sensitive individuals, and this is

precisely where undenatured whey products differ from each other.

All food is broken down into free form amino acids, ionic minerals

and very short peptides before absorption through the intestinal

wall, provided leaky gut does not exist; leaky gut increases

intestinal porosity to the point that undigested food, toxins and

bacteria, which are pretty large, can fall through the intestine wall.

Duncan

> I think Shefy is trying to say that lactose isn't the only problem

with dairy for many people. I know that I have very high IgG

reactions to casein and whey. I am not sure if the cause is any way

related to lactose intolerance. Actually I never thought it would be.

I couldn't tolerate milk as a baby, but I wonder if I had gut damage

as an infant, because my mom started feeding me grains VERY early,

like a few weeks old, to help me " sleep better through the night. "

>

> I wonder if I can possibly have fermented dairy, like kefir, once

my gut is healed.

>

> I also wonder if whey is broken down into free form amino acids

(and no longer the whole whey protein) so that I could benefit from

whey protein shakes. Rice now I am using rice protein.

>

> -Olif...who is taking her inulin now. :-)

>

>

>

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Yes, Duncan, it is cow's milk I couldn't tolerate as an infant- until I was

about 2 1/2 years old anyway. I think my body just learned how to cope with it

by then though. Actually it didn't cope all that well, because I had my tonsils

out when I was 6. They were always enlarged, but not infected- probably a result

of my dairy intolerance. I probably shouldn't have had it at all. It has been

slightly over a year now since I eliminated dairy. I also showed high IgG levels

to goat's milk on the test I took last fall. I hadn't even realized I was

exposed to goat's milk. I imagine it is the casein in that I am reacting to as

well.

Can you recommend a specific brand of undenatured whey protein that would be

tolerated by someone with a whey sensitivity? I am almost out of rice protein,

and would love to switch to whey. I don't want to take the chance spending money

on one I can't tolerate though, so it would really help if you can recommend

one!

Thanks,

Olif

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" Thanks, Olif, for commenting on your early start on grains. My

mother started me on them at 10 days old, and I've had health

problems all my life, ranging from severe food allergies "

Hi, Lori. I am glad to hear that you can make that connection as well. I am

still unsure if my gut was damaged early on and that is why I couldn't tolerate

dairy, or if I am really allergic to it. I think I would like to get an IgA test

one of these days, because they are more permanent allergies from what I

understand. Even if I was negative, I am still pretty convinced that dairy isn't

the best thing to eat. I would really enjoy milk kefir though. I used to love it

before I went dairy free.

Were you able to drink milk or milk based formula as a baby? I was on soy after

a few months of being breastfed. :-(

-Olif

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> Were you able to drink milk or milk based formula as a baby?

Yes, I was fortunate enough not to be put on formula; I drank cow's

milk from birth. I have also been fortunate enough never to have

any noticeable lactose intolerance; however, in my dairy-free

ventures, it has been apparent to me that returning to (classic)

dairy sources has not been a good thing. I typically notice a

corresponding increase in nasal congestion, pollen allergies, and

phlegm. But more than that, excess dairy pales the color of my face

within hours. Oh yeah, and when I followed the allergy rotation

diet, I would drink a quart of raw-milk kefir once every 4 days.

And it got to the point where I could feel my energy level lower

after I drank my kefir (maybe b/c a quart was too much to drink in

one day).

-Lori

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" I have also been fortunate enough never to have

any noticeable lactose intolerance; however, in my dairy-free

ventures, it has been apparent to me that returning to (classic)

dairy sources has not been a good thing. "

This is exactly how I noticed I couldn't tolerate dairy (and gluten as well)- I

eliminated them for a few weeks and tried eating them again. A couple months

after that I took an IgG test which showed very high levels to dairy and

surprisingly nothing to gluten or any of the gluten grains, although I

definitely can't tolerate them. I might have an IgA to gluten. I have no idea. I

get very nauseous 2 hours (almost to the minute) of consuming either one of

them. The same is true for cane sugar, but I didn't realize that one until I

took the test. I tried eating something with sugar in it a couple months ago,

and got extremely sick to my stomach. Until then, I had no idea it ever bothered

me.

-Olif

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And, as others have suggested, some dairy products have more lactose than others. Aged cheeses tend to have less.

Lactose intolerance is ten times more common than casein intolerance.

H.

In a message dated 12/3/08 12:52:53 AM, marcianar@... writes:

In the case of celiac and lactose intolerance, if you're lactose intolerant due to damaged villi (the tips of the villi produce the lactase enzyme that digests milk products) you will likely experience problems eating/drinking dairy until you heal and the villi regrow. Usually it takes months to years for complete regrowth.

Basically, if you're feeling miserable consuming dairy, you have 2 choices to fix the problem. Drop it completely for now, and try re-introducing it in 3 to 6 months, or use lactase enzyme supplements to see if they give you any relief.

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Hi Nikki,

Yes, at some point your body can start producing lactase.

Bee

>

> Hi Bee -

>

> Prior to being on the diet, I realized that my body doesn't like dairy. If I

would have milk or cheese, my nose would run & I would get insomnia. Since I've

been following the diet since Sept 09 I haven't had dairy. I did begin to make

the egg nogs in December with butter & found I was having insomnia issues,

again. I've taken the butter out & will begin to add again, slowly, as

recommended in previous posts.

>

> I understand that as adults our bodies produce less lactase which is one of

the reasons adults can't digest lactose. Through the healing of the diet can

your body begin to produce more lactase?

>

> I've noted your lactose rules in prior postings: " ... the rule about lactose

is: " The higher the butterfat content the lower

> the lactose, " so that's why butter is okay on this program and other dairy

isn't - lactose (sugar) in dairy feeds candida. "

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