Re: Hypothyroidism and Celiac Disease

[Guest guest]

The correlation between the two is that both Hashimoto's and Graves are autoimmune disorders.

I believe that it's well established that any one AD, untreated, can trigger others. I don't have time to track down info on this right now; perhaps others can do so before I can get free time.

H.

In a message dated 2/17/09 9:00:32 PM, ddarcy@... writes:

there's no correlation that I believe has been shown between Hashimoto's and Graves -- they have opposite effects (hypo- and hyper-thyroidism respectively) there's no correlation that I believe has been shown between Hashimoto's and Graves -- they have opposite effects (hypo- and hyper-thyroidism resp

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Here's the first thing I came up with. I'd like to find a source that's clearer for those of us without a technical background yet from an authoritative source.

Systemic Autoimmune Disorders in Celiac Disease

Posted 11/15/2006

Alessio Fasano

Abstract and Introduction

Purpose of Review: Celiac disease is an immune-mediated disorder clinically characterized by a multitude of symptoms and complications. The comorbidity between celiac disease and other autoimmune disorders has been clearly established.

Recent Findings: Two main theories have been postulated to explain this comorbidity: (1) linkage disequilibrium between the genes responsible for celiac disease and those responsible for the coexpressed autoimmune diseases or (2) untreated celiac disease leading to the onset of other autoimmune diseases.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for clarification of terms. Having someone with your knowledge speaking up is wonderful. I have no medical training; I go only by what I read in various autoimmune disorder sites. I appreciate your information.

H.

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Postscript of sorts: a GI I formerly went to told me that untreated autoimmune diseases triggered other autoimmune disorders. However, although he was the person who diagnosed and treated two ADs for me, ADs are not his specialty. I assume he was correct in his statement, but it's possible he wasn't.

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I have hypothyroidism and have had it for 9 years prior to being diagnosed with Celiac.  I believe I had undiagnosed celiac for three years.The hypothyroidism is hereditary (much like the Celiac), however I was told that the only relationship between the two was that I was not absorbing the Synthroid that I was taking.  I am now taking half the dose since going GF a  year and half ago.From: "melbatavia@..." <melbatavia@...> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:52:15 PMSubject: [ ] Hypothyroidism and Celiac Disease

Hello everyone. One of our group members recently made a comment that hypothyroidism is not uncommon with celiac disease. Does anyone have any experience with this? If so, was medication necessary and what (GF) med was prescribed.

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SF BAY AREA CELIAC NEWS......FEBRUARY 10, 2009> OAKLAND/SF SUPPORT GROUP MEETING> Saturday, February 21 from 10:30AM to 12:30PM> Topic: Eating Out on the Gluten Free Diet> This is restaurant review day. Please come prepared to share your> experiences eating out gluten free. If you have specific recommendations,> please bring name, address and phone so others can find your favorite> places. We will talk about how to navigate in restaurants, hotels,> institutions and conferences, or any place where you cannot prepare> your own food.   Please also bring a gluten free brunch item with recipe> or ingredient list.   Eating well is an important part of our meetings!> This meeting takes place at Kaiser Medical Center, 65 Howe Street,> Oakland.  The parking garage offers free parking on Saturday; enter at> Howe Street.  The meeting room is in the Fabiola Building, room 65A,> ground

floor. The building is on Howe Street across from the parking> garage. This is a different location from our usual, so allow extra time> to find this new space. Everyone is welcome, especially those newly> diagnosed.> Call Ellen Switkes at 510 655-0215 or e-mail at> ellen.switkes@ ucop.edu  if you have questions.

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I'm hypothyroid and also have 's (anyone else out there with

addision's and celiac? Would love to hear from you)

Diagnosed with thyroid first, addison's and now getting diagnosed with

celiac. All autoimmune diseases, thyroid in family and I'm sure

celiac's, too although no one has yet to get diagnosed. I've come to

my own celiac dignosis after months of trial and error. I've got most

" classic " symptoms but kept attributing them to my thyroid and my

thyroid meds. As I have stopped eating gluten and now soy, my thyroid

meds have needed a big reduction. To really get a good thyroid

treatment you need to see a good endocrinologist, not just a GP.

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> SF BAY AREA CELIAC NEWS......FEBRUARY 10, 2009

> > OAKLAND/SF SUPPORT GROUP MEETING

> > Saturday, February 21 from 10:30AM to 12:30PM

> > Topic: Eating Out on the Gluten Free Diet

> > This is restaurant review day. Please come prepared to share your

> > experiences eating out gluten free. If you have specific

recommendations,

> > please bring name, address and phone so others can find your favorite

> > places. We will talk about how to navigate in restaurants, hotels,

> > institutions and conferences, or any place where you cannot prepare

> > your own food.   Please also bring a gluten free brunch item

with recipe

> > or ingredient list.   Eating well is an important part of our

meetings!

> > This meeting takes place at Kaiser Medical Center, 65 Howe Street,

> > Oakland.  The parking garage offers free parking on Saturday;

enter at

> > Howe Street.  The meeting room is in the Fabiola Building, room 65A,

> > ground floor. The building is on Howe Street across from the parking

> > garage. This is a different location from our usual, so allow

extra time

> > to find this new space. Everyone is welcome, especially those newly

> > diagnosed.

> > Call Ellen Switkes at 510 655-0215 or e-mail at

> > ellen.switkes@...   if you have questions.

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[Guest guest]

Studies have shown a correlation between celiac disease and type 1 diabetes (also an autoimmune disease), as well as between celiac disease and the thyroid autoimmune diseases, esp Hashimoto's. However, there's no correlation that I believe has been shown between Hashimoto's and Graves -- they have opposite effects (hypo- and hyper-thyroidism respectively). I also believe there is not firm evidence that not treating one autoimmune disease will cause another one, although I have heard that hypothesis.

If there are studies which show more than this, I'd be very interested!

Thanks,

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of flatcat9@...Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Hypothyroidism and Celiac Disease

Two types of thyroid disorders are autoimmune: Graves and Hashimoto's.Those of us with one AD are at increased risk for having another.Any untreated AD can trigger another.H.In a message dated 2/17/09 7:19:47 PM, tanya_lombardi writes:

I have hypothyroidism and have had it for 9 years prior to being diagnosed with Celiac. I believe I had undiagnosed celiac for three years.The hypothyroidism is hereditary (much like the Celiac), however I was told that the only relationship between the two was that I was not absorbing the Synthroid that I was taking. I am now taking half the dose since going GF a year and half ago.**************You can't always choose whom you love, but you can choose how to find them. Start with AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000002)

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Correlation is a statistical measure used in scientific studies to show an above average (greater than chance) rate of occurrence of two diseases in the same person i.e. one person getting two diseases. That's the way I was using that word. Note that it does not imply causality.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of flatcat9@...Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Hypothyroidism and Celiac Disease

The correlation between the two is that both Hashimoto's and Graves are autoimmune disorders.I believe that it's well established that any one AD, untreated, can trigger others. I don't have time to track down info on this right now; perhaps others can do so before I can get free time.H.In a message dated 2/17/09 9:00:32 PM, ddarcystanfordalumni (DOT) org writes:

there's no correlation that I believe has been shown between Hashimoto's and Graves -- they have opposite effects (hypo- and hyper-thyroidism respectively) there's no correlation that I believe has been shown between Hashimoto's and Graves -- they have opposite effects (hypo- and hyper-thyroidism resp**************You can't always choose whom you love, but you can choose how to find them. Start with AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000002)

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the study! I'll take a look for that one.

Just a quick few words of translation of the excerpt below:

comorbidity: more than one disease happening in one person (this is supported by several studies for CD and other AD's)

linkage disequilibrium: means that certain gene sequence variations are shows to occur together more frequently than by chance. (a confusing concept, but for instance if a gene sequence variation which may be partly responsible for diabetes occurs more frequently than by chance along with a gene sequence which is partly responsible for CD, then these sequences are in linkage disequilibrium. This is why LD may explain the finding of comorbidity.)

coexpressed: multiple diseases which are affecting one person are said to be coexpressed.

Please see my GeneReviews message about other studies. One study did lend support to the theory that untreated CD may lead to other ADs, but several other recent studies did not find this affect.

Thanks again,

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of flatcat9@...Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Hypothyroidism and Celiac Disease

Here's the first thing I came up with. I'd like to find a source that's clearer for those of us without a technical background yet from an authoritative source. Systemic Autoimmune Disorders in Celiac DiseasePosted 11/15/2006Alessio FasanoAbstract and IntroductionPurpose of Review: Celiac disease is an immune-mediated disorder clinically characterized by a multitude of symptoms and complications. The comorbidity between celiac disease and other autoimmune disorders has been clearly established.Recent Findings: Two main theories have been postulated to explain this comorbidity: (1) linkage disequilibrium between the genes responsible for celiac disease and those responsible for the coexpressed autoimmune diseases or (2) untreated celiac disease leading to the onset of other autoimmune diseases.H.**************You can't always choose whom you love, but you can choose how to find them. Start with AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000002)

[Guest guest]

Can anyone expand on the need for lower dosage of thyroid rx, once going gf? I

have been

gf for 2 years, and my level of meds hasnt changed. How does soy affect this,

and what kind

of soy because i don't eat it straight. Do things like soy lecithin count?

Jill

ps-hashimotos dx 2000, celiac dx in 2006

[Guest guest]

I have both. Take syntharoid daily.

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[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Robin

Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009

6:19 PM

Subject: Re: [ ]

Hypothyroidism and Celiac Disease

I had

Graves Disease (hyperthyroidism) prior to being diagnosed with Celiac Disease.

I firmly believe I had Celiac Disease first, although undetected.

I was medicated for one year and then given the option of radiation of

the thyroid or a thyroidectomy, I chose the thyroidectomy and now take

synthroid daily.

Robin

robinkarpfamily4

On Feb 17, 2009, at 5:52 PM, melbataviacomcast (DOT) net

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Hello everyone. One of our group members recently made a comment that

hypothyroidism is not uncommon with celiac disease. Does anyone have any experience

with this? If so, was medication necessary and what (GF) med was prescribed.

Thanks so much

Melis B

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From: bayareaceliaccomcast (DOT) net [mailto:bayareaceliaccomcast (DOT) net]

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> bayareaceliaccomcast (DOT) net

> Subject: SF Bay Area Celiac News...February 10,

2009

SF BAY AREA CELIAC NEWS......FEBRUARY 10, 2009

> OAKLAND/SF SUPPORT GROUP MEETING

> Saturday, February 21 from 10:30AM to 12:30PM

> Topic: Eating Out on the Gluten Free Diet

> This is restaurant review day. Please come prepared to share your

> experiences eating out gluten free. If you have specific recommendations,

> please bring name, address and phone so others can find your favorite

> places. We will talk about how to navigate in restaurants, hotels,

> institutions and conferences, or any place where you cannot prepare

> your own food. Please also bring a gluten free brunch item

with recipe

> or ingredient list. Eating well is an important part of our

meetings!

> This meeting takes place at Kaiser

Medical Center,

65 Howe Street,

> Oakland.

The parking garage offers free parking on Saturday; enter at

> Howe Street. The meeting room is in the Fabiola Building,

room 65A,

> ground floor. The building is on Howe

Street across from the parking

> garage. This is a different location from our usual, so allow extra time

> to find this new space. Everyone is welcome, especially those newly

> diagnosed.

> Call Ellen Switkes at 510 655-0215 or e-mail at

> ellen.switkesucop (DOT) edu if you have

questions.

[Guest guest]

Well, it's fortunate that all three of you have been diagnosed and know to take care in this area, to be aware of your body's needs.

H.

In a message dated 2/18/09 7:55:49 AM, galliano.gang@... writes:

I have Hashimoto's, Psoriasis and Celiac. My 9 year old daughter has Type 1 diabetes. My biological mother (just met her recently) has Type 1, Hashimoto's and Psoriasis.

:Lynn:

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I have Hashimoto's, Psoriasis and Celiac. My 9 year old daughter has Type 1 diabetes. My biological mother (just met her recently) has Type 1, Hashimoto's and Psoriasis.:Lynn:On Feb 17, 2009, at 7:33 PM, flatcat9@... wrote:Two types of thyroid disorders are autoimmune: Graves and Hashimoto's.Those of us with one AD are at increased risk for having another.Any untreated AD can trigger another.H.In a message dated 2/17/09 7:19:47 PM, tanya_lombardi writes:I have hypothyroidism and have had it for 9 years prior to being diagnosed with Celiac.  I believe I had undiagnosed celiac for three years.The hypothyroidism is hereditary (much like the Celiac), however I was told that the only relationship between the two was that I was not absorbing the Synthroid that I was taking.  I am now taking half the dose since going GF a  year and half ago.**************You can't always choose whom you love, but you can choose how to find them. Start with AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000002)

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because the celiac prevents absorption.  many times folks are diagnosed with celiac due to malnutrition or anemia or weight loss, etc.  once you go gf you're intenstines heal and some experience weight gain due to the sudden absorption of nutrients.  for me I was absorbing nutrients well but not all of the synthroid... so when I went gf i didn't experience weight gain, but my body started absorbing the full  dose of synthroid which was too much, so I had to taper off.  You may not experience the same thing, based on the things I've heard on this board, there are VERY different reactions to gluten.I hope this helps a bit.From: jillerscroft <jillerscroft@...> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:12:39 PMSubject: [ ] Re: Hypothyroidism and Celiac Disease

Can anyone expand on the need for lower dosage of thyroid rx, once going gf? I have been

gf for 2 years, and my level of meds hasnt changed. How does soy affect this, and what kind

of soy because i don't eat it straight. Do things like soy lecithin count?

Jill

ps-hashimotos dx 2000, celiac dx in 2006