Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 I had it so bad that I thought I was having a heart attack. and then they put me on Prilosec and that just backed everything up and caused other problems. A good friend turned me onto Udo essential oils and then I also tried his enzymes and they are wonderful. His website is www.udoerasmus.com or his company is Flora and that one is www.florahealth.com He also has some other wonderful products. I find his products at our local " Wild Oats " stores which is also called Natures in the Vancouver, Washington area. My friends ND also carries it but it is kind of hard to find . Hope this is helpful. Ch On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 10:40:01 -0400 " Anne Barkett " <novatrix@...> writes: > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a good brand of digestive > enzymes? > My husband has terrible acid reflux, and we've been trying to find > alternatives to mainstream medicines like Prilosec. His entire > family is on > that medicine, and I've definitely noticed it getting worse since > he's been > on it. He's really trying not to go back on Prilosec, but we need to > find a > good brand of enzymes before he gives up completely. Papaya tea > seems to > work very well, but it's impractical for him to drink it at work. > > Any suggestions would be much appreciated! > > TIA, > > Anne > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 >Does anyone have any recommendations for a good brand of digestive enzymes? >My husband has terrible acid reflux, and we've been trying to find >alternatives to mainstream medicines like Prilosec. His entire family is on >that medicine, and I've definitely noticed it getting worse since he's been >on it. He's really trying not to go back on Prilosec, but we need to find a >good brand of enzymes before he gives up completely. Papaya tea seems to >work very well, but it's impractical for him to drink it at work. Ann: Get him the book " Why stomach acid is good for you " ! Dr. addresses that issue particularly, and Prilosec is bad, bad news. I started using Bio-Gest, at the recommendation of one of his patients (who had bad heartburn etc.). A lot of folks with reflux have LOW stomach acid -- high stomach acid prompts the sphincter to close tightly. When you get older, the amount of acid normally decreases, and then the sphincter doesn't close. Prilosec makes it worse. Bio-Gest has hydrochloric acid in it, so you take one with a meal and you get MORE acid, which digests the food and makes the sphincter close. Anyway, a lot of people have great results with it. Read the book first though! He has a way to test your stomach acid to see if it really is high/low. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 A great book on digestion with lots of questions for appraising the health of your own digestion is " Digestive Wellness " by Lipski. She covers enzymes, HCl, parasites, candida, and lots more. -Linnea Digestive Enzymes > > Does anyone have any recommendations for a good brand of digestive enzymes? > My husband has terrible acid reflux, and we've been trying to find > alternatives to mainstream medicines like Prilosec. His entire family is on > that medicine, and I've definitely noticed it getting worse since he's been > on it. He's really trying not to go back on Prilosec, but we need to find a > good brand of enzymes before he gives up completely. Papaya tea seems to > work very well, but it's impractical for him to drink it at work. > > Any suggestions would be much appreciated! > > TIA, > > Anne > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 23, 2003 Report Share Posted July 23, 2003 In a message dated 7/23/03 1:37:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, heidis@... writes: > Read the book > first though! He has a way to test your stomach acid to see if it > really is high/low. Oh, fantastic. Is it simple or do you have to buy stuff? I want to get my hands on a blood sugar tester, thanks for that, but for money it's going to have to wait. Oh, I've been meaning to ask you Heidi, have you read " The Cortisol Connection " ? You used the phrase in a previous email a few days ago, wasn't sure if it was a reference to the book or not. I saw it in the health food store a couple weeks ago, and it looked pretty rich in scientific information and helpful for an understanding of the adrenals. Was wondering your thoughts, if you've happened to have read it. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 > Does anyone have any recommendations for a good brand of digestive enzymes? > My husband has terrible acid reflux, and we've been trying to find > alternatives to mainstream medicines like Prilosec. I know of a couple that got off the purple pill by drinking kefir daily. Before the kefir, they couldn't miss a day of the pill or they were in trouble. Now, today - no purple pills, but they still need the kefir or the acid reflux returns. - - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 > Does anyone have any recommendations for a good brand of digestive enzymes? > My husband has terrible acid reflux, and we've been trying to find > alternatives to mainstream medicines like Prilosec. ----->digestzymes from Designs for Health. they're pharmaceutical grade, i believe and it's hard to get them without having to go through a health care professional. i just bought some today at: http://www.healthyhotline.com/0260.shtml (there are very few online sources.) they were prescribed for my dogs by my holistic vet/ND. my dogs have been on them for a couple of years and i use them on occassion if i have digestive upset. i've tried bio-gest with the doggies, too. digestzymes seems to work better for them. DHI-DIGZ Digestzymes 90C 20.00 DETAILS: Formerly: Digestivezymes Chewable Tablet INGREDIENTS: SERVING SIZE: 1 cap/SERVINGS PER CONTAINER: 90 AMOUNT PER SERVING: Amylase (from Pancreatin 4x)........20,000 USP Protease (from Pancreatin 4x).......20,000 USP Lipase(from Pancreatin 4x)...........1,600 USP Betaine HCl............................200 mg Papain.................................125 mg Pepsin (1:10,000).......................65 mg Ox Bile.................................50 mg Gelatin(capsule shell), microcrystalline cell- ulose, magnesium stearate, silicon dioxide. RECOMMENDED USAGE: Take 1 capsule with each meal or as directed by your health-care practitioner. Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ mailto:s.fisher22@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 >Oh, fantastic. Is it simple or do you have to buy stuff? I want to get my >hands on a blood sugar tester, thanks for that, but for money it's going to >have to wait. The book is pretty simple, and mainly he prescribes HCL and enzymes, which is not all that expensive. Also I found out from the book that my habit of " bend over gardening " after lunch was probably what gave me some bad heartburn. For testing your heartburn, you take 1/2 a tsp. of baking soda dissolved in some water, first thing in the morning, then test how long it takes to burp. If it takes more than a minute (I'd have to look up the exact time) then you have low stomach acid. >Oh, I've been meaning to ask you Heidi, have you read " The Cortisol >Connection " ? You used the phrase in a previous email a few days ago, wasn't sure if it >was a reference to the book or not. I saw it in the health food store a >couple weeks ago, and it looked pretty rich in scientific information and helpful >for an understanding of the adrenals. Was wondering your thoughts, if you've >happened to have read it. I read part of it -- it seems logical enough. I'm a little disappointed by his reliance on drugs, so I only got halfway through it. I'm pretty convinced though, that if you have a food sensitivity, it would raise your cortisol levels and THAT might account for some of the blood sugar issues. The book concentrates more on daily stress, like your boss yelling at you -- while I realise that is an issue, I know that the wrong diet can make you a lot more sensitive to stuff like your boss yelling at you, and the authors don't address that much. But the explanations of how cortisol works are useful. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2003 Report Share Posted July 24, 2003 Thanks to all for your suggestions for enzymes and other things to try. It is much appreciated! Now I just have to work on him to not go back on the dreaded purple pill...I know it's hard for him when he feels like he's having a heart attack every day. Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2006 Report Share Posted September 5, 2006 http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbs & pid=NFS-01750 http://www.doctormurray.com/articles/pdfs/ProteolyticsInCancer.pdf#se arch=%22zymactive%22 this is the enzyme I am taking and boy does this one work--I take it before I eat or sometimes durning if I forget--- it also has the silk worm enzyme in it Serratia Peptidase but in smaller dose than the one Greenwillow tree sells---(that works super for fibro) so if you are looking for an anti-inflammatory with digestive enzymes action as well--(they do both) than this product is for you-- This iherb got it to me for $2.00 in two days---@ 18.00 a bottle others sell it for $35--fyi tina > > http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbs & pid=NFS- 01750 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 exactly what is pancreatin? sounds like something maybe our bodies already make?.... seems liek a good product... thanks! shefy tina83862 <tina83862@...> wrote: http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbs & pid=NFS-01750 http://www.doctormurray.com/articles/pdfs/ProteolyticsInCancer.pdf#se arch=%22zymactive%22 this is the enzyme I am taking and boy does this one work--I take it before I eat or sometimes durning if I forget--- it also has the silk worm enzyme in it Serratia Peptidase but in smaller dose than the one Greenwillow tree sells---(that works super for fibro) so if you are looking for an anti-inflammatory with digestive enzymes action as well--(they do both) than this product is for you-- This iherb got it to me for $2.00 in two days---@ 18.00 a bottle others sell it for $35--fyi tina > > http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbs & pid=NFS- 01750 > --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbs & pid=NFS-01749 > > exactly what is pancreatin? sounds like something maybe our bodies already make?.... seems liek a good product... > > thanks! > shefy > > tina83862 <tina83862@...> wrote: http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbs & pid=NFS-01750 > > http://www.doctormurray.com/articles/pdfs/ProteolyticsInCancer.pdf#se > arch=%22zymactive%22 > > this is the enzyme I am taking and boy does this one work--I take it > before I eat or sometimes durning if I forget--- > > it also has the silk worm enzyme in it Serratia Peptidase but in > smaller dose than the one Greenwillow tree sells---(that works super > for fibro) > > so if you are looking for an anti-inflammatory with digestive > enzymes action as well--(they do both) than this product is for you-- > > This iherb got it to me for $2.00 in two days---@ 18.00 a bottle > > others sell it for $35--fyi > > tina > > --- In gallstones , " tina83862 " <tina83862@> wrote: > > > > http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbs & pid=NFS- > 01750 > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your email and more, right on the new .com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Pacreatin is a mixture of the enzymes of pancreatic juice, such as amylase, lipase, and protease.It is produced by Pancrease in our body .Amylase breaks down starch, lipase breaks down fats, and proteases metabolize complex proteins Pancreatin used to make the drug is extracted from animals such as cattle or hogs and used as a digestive aid. Pancreatin is prescribed to treat a deficiency of pancreas secretion. This may occur in chronic pancreatitis, cystic fibrosis, or in any condition such as surgery or cancer where the pancreas duct is blocked and enzymes cannot reach the intestine. Simple blood tests (Seum Amylase,Lipase,Trypsin etc) and stool tests (CDSA,trypsin) can tell if you have a deficeincy of the Pancreatic enzyme. For pancreatin, the following are the observed side effects: Minor: stomach cramps nausea diarrhea skin rash hives These might go away once the body starts getting use to the enzymes. Pancreas enzymes may be a problem with patients who have asthma or pork sensitivity. High doses of the enzymes can raise the blood uric acid so that those people who are predisposed may develop a gout attack. Interactions with this drug may occur with the following: antacids containing calcium or magnesium (Tums, Maalox, Mylanta) iron supplements Puneet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 All those isolated/synthetic supplements you’re taking would be enough to give me heartburn! Anyway, I take plant-based enzymes and probiotics. I take 2 enzymes per meal, and 5 between meals and 5 before bed. I take 2 acidophilus with breakfast, 2 full-spectrum probiotics with lunch, and 2 bifidus with supper. Make sure your enzymes and probiotics are blended with a whole food - for instance, a whole food blended in with enzymes will supply minerals. Enzymes do not work without minerals. A whole food blended in with probiotics will act like a “PREbiotic” and will give the PRObiotics something to live off of. You can do an experiment to see if your enzymes are working – open up a capsule and stir it into a serving of pudding. The enzymes should liquefy the pudding in just a minute or two. And if it doesn’t, then it’s not going to work in your body either. Carol ================ Posted by: " Anne " sarahlovell@... sarahlovell Hello Friends, Some of you had spoken about digestive enzymes, and I have recently aquired some, along with more probiotics. I just wondered what you all use them for, how often etc. I'm trying to work on my digestion, eating more local foods, raw etc. JUst having a ton of heartburn...and am trying to fix myself.... Also have started taking a cal/mag supplement, EFA's, and a B Complex with zinc, copper and vit C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 JUst having a ton of heartburn...and am trying to fix myself.... Digestive enzymes should definitely help with heartburn, gas etc. I take 2 before I eat a cooked meal, but often even take them if I am eating a salad or something raw. You can't really overdose on them, so if you still have symptoms after taking 2, try taking 3 or 4. Some people say to take them before and after meals but I'm too lazy and just take them about 5 min. before. The worse that can happen by taking too many is you get diarrhea because they help to break down the food for digestion. Then you know to cut back dosage. Gloria ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 I don't think it's necessary to take digestive enzymes on a daily basis, only when needed. when needed for me means that I ate a heavier than normal meal, or foods I don't normally eat, or for whatever reason, mygut starts to feel yucky. works for me, your mileage may vary. Lynn in CA On 7/8/07, Anne <sarahlovell@...> wrote: Hello Friends,Some of you had spoken about digestive enzymes, and I have recently aquired some, along with more probiotics. I just wondered what you all use them for, how often etc. I'm trying to work on my digestion, eating more local foods, raw etc. JUst having a ton of heartburn...and am trying to fix myself.... -- *****All I ask is a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 When you're not eating raw. Anne <sarahlovell@...> wrote: Hello Friends,Some of you had spoken about digestive enzymes, and I have recently aquired some, along with more probiotics. I just wondered what you all use them for, how often etc. I'm trying to work on my digestion, eating more local foods, raw etc. JUst having a ton of heartburn...and am trying to fix myself....Also have started taking a cal/mag supplement, EFA's, and a B Complex with zinc, copper and vit C. Thanks for your thoughts and opinions!Best, Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 You need to take " plant-based " enzymes every time you eat something that is cooked. Your body make two kinds of enzymes - " metabolic " (which are produced by our cells which cannot be supplemented) and " pancreatic " (which work on digestion in the small intestines and should be supplemented ONLY when pancreatic production is inadequate). But your body can't make plant-based enzymes. Plant-based enzymes are found in raw foods, and they are cooked out of any food that is processed, cooked, nuked, canned, etc. You need to replace them. Plant enzymes are important because they are capable of digesting food before the body's own digestive system begins the process. They enhance the digestion of food and the delivery of nutrients to the blood even if your own digestive system is faulty. Carol > > *I don't think it's necessary to take digestive enzymes on a daily basis, > only when needed. when needed for me means that I ate a heavier than normal > meal, or foods I don't normally eat, or for whatever reason, mygut starts to > feel yucky. works for me, your mileage may vary.* > ** > *Lynn* > *in CA* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Gloria, Do you take the ones based on pineapple/papaya or the ones from Aspergillus? I've been wondering if there is really any difference. Peace, love, laughter I take 2 > before I eat a cooked meal, but often even take them if I am eating a salad or > something raw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Do you take the ones based on pineapple/papaya or the ones from Aspergillus? , The ones I take say papaya/pineapple. I've taken different ones over the years and they all seem to work fine. I get mine at iherb.com. Gloria ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Those sound like the same ones I take. I used to take Pancreatin (digestive enzymes) and now I take something called Super Enzymes. Both seems to work about the same for me. My job is ruining my diet! They have employee breakfasts and lunches and such several times a month. It's free??? Enjoy it. Tonight I ate a big salad and boiled a bunch of frozen potato-onion pierogies. I could eat the whole box of 12 myself! Sometimes I need a shot of regular old SAD food. Gloria ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Gloria Those sound like the same ones I take. My job is ruining my diet! They have employee breakfasts and lunches and such several times a month. Fortunately, we know ahead of time, so I can make sure I have my enzymes. My wife Marilyn is glad she doesn't have to make me a lunch those days, but puts on her pouty face that she doesn't get any. **HUSH GUIDO!!** Peace, love, laughter > > , > > The ones I take say papaya/pineapple. I've taken different ones over the > > years and they all seem to work fine. I get mine at iherb.com. > > > > Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Hot dogs and macaroni and cheese? ***LMAO*** Poor ! Gayla Always Enough RanchAcampo, Californiahttp://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.htmlBill Barnhill is our Inspiration! Go Bill!!!aeranch@... Re: DIgestive ENzymes GloriaThose sound like the same ones I take.My job is ruining my diet! They have employee breakfasts and lunches and such several times a month. Fortunately, we know ahead of time, so I can make sure I have my enzymes.My wife Marilyn is glad she doesn't have to make me a lunch those days, but puts on her pouty face that she doesn't get any.**HUSH GUIDO!!**Peace, love, laughter> > ,> > The ones I take say papaya/pineapple. I've taken different ones over the > > years and they all seem to work fine. I get mine at iherb.com.> > > > Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Thanks for the info, however, I still believe that one doesn't HAVE to take them after every meal. Period. Lynn in CA. On 7/9/07, Carol <carol@...> wrote: You need to take " plant-based " enzymes every time you eat somethingthat is cooked. -- *****All I ask is a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Why not? Shari Re: Re: DIgestive ENzymes Thanks for the info, however, I still believe that one doesn't HAVE to take them after every meal. Period. Lynn in CA. On 7/9/07, Carol <carolminnick (DOT) us> wrote: You need to take "plant-based" enzymes every time you eat somethingthat is cooked. -- *****All I ask is a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 The fruit based enzymes work only in a narrow pH range (2-3) - so they're not going to digest everything. Pancreatic enzymes work only in the 4-6 pH range. Carol > > The ones I take say papaya/pineapple. Gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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