Re: re plaque

January 3, 2008

Sorry to hear you had such a bad experience. Its difficult to comment without

knowing full details but

I can assure you that many people I know have had great results form colonics

including myself.

the first colonic I ever had which was many years ago now cleared my head of

dreadful brain fog that

I had with candida overgrowth. It was instrumental in getting me better.

I recently paid a visit to the Koyfman Whole Body Cleansing Center near Atlanta

when on a visit to the USA

for some lymph cleansing where colonics play an important part the cleanses. In

fact I met a local medical

doctor there who was doing his annual cleanses. He sent many of his patients

there for treatment.

As for plaque -- I expelled some very hardened ropey material once when I was

doing a bowel cleanse by taking

a herbal cleanse with psyllium a few years ago. This is the beginning of plaque

and I do think that it exists.

Some people make a lot of mucus as a defence against organisms or foods they are

intolerant to.

When this hardens it becomes plaque. I had been on a good diet for quite a few

years and my diet

before was never that bad.

I knew someone who had been to a detox center in Thailand and never passed the

ropey material that

many people say is just psyllium and Bentonite although she was taking this type

of cleanse but when

she got back to the UK she did the VE Irons cleanse and passed a whole lot of

hard ropes which improved

her arthritis.

People have such varied experiences.

Sandy

re plaque

I agree, I paid almost a thousand dollars for colon cleansing to become

sicker than I have ever been in my life, I couldn't work for all most 2

months, then out of no where the infections in my body attacked my

muscles in my right arm and tore my rotator cuff, which is more pain

than you can ever imagine. That was last Christmas, and I have scaring

on the muscles in that arm and will never have full use of it again. I

don't ever recommend colonics 2 times a week like I was getting. I

should have sued that lady. I won't go any where near a colonic now, it

has taken me 6 months of eating digestive enzymes to not pee or

defecate green or get infections attacking me out of no where.

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11:29

January 4, 2008

Like Sandy says here, your experience is certainly unfortunate, and not

knowing the state of your health prior to treatment and the details of the

treatments themselves, it would impossible for me to speculate what

happened to you.

Also, like Sandy, I have seen countless folks helped by colonics and

cleansing protocols.

Now about the plaque issue, I have a question for the group. Has anyone

ever seen this ropey material when not using these products? As you can

see from my previous post, I'm quite sold on the 3-day apple cleanse which

I've done many times myself, and I have had many clients do as well. At no

time have I seen the likes of what is produced by some of these other

herbal detoxes (I do occasionally see sand, though, and always lots and

lots of mucous and gas). I suppose one could argue that perhaps the herbal

detoxes are more effective than the apple detox, but I have personally had

much more satisfying results from the 3-day apple diet than I have had with

the herbal cleanses (yes, I have tried a few) so I'm left a little

skeptical.

Now, I have heard of a black substance coming out of people on 40-day water

fasts at around the 20 to 22 day mark, but it's my understanding that this

stuff is not similar to what is produced by the herbal detoxes. As a

matter of fact, I suspect this black tar-like substance may even be related

to the small intestinal mucoid plaque to which Simon has referred. The

only people I know personally on these water fasts both were battling (and

successfully overcame I might add) cancer which may even be a factor in the

production of this black tar-like substance.

Wouldn't it be really great if there was a truly unbiased research

institute with lots of funds and really educated researchers that weren't

beholden to some product manufacturer studying this stuff?

Cheers,

Robin

Re: re plaque

Sorry to hear you had such a bad experience. Its difficult to comment

without knowing full details but

I can assure you that many people I know have had great results form

colonics including myself.

the first colonic I ever had which was many years ago now cleared my head

of dreadful brain fog that

I had with candida overgrowth. It was instrumental in getting me better.

I recently paid a visit to the Koyfman Whole Body Cleansing Center near

Atlanta when on a visit to the USA

for some lymph cleansing where colonics play an important part the

cleanses. In fact I met a local medical

doctor there who was doing his annual cleanses. He sent many of his

patients there for treatment.

As for plaque -- I expelled some very hardened ropey material once when I

was doing a bowel cleanse by taking

a herbal cleanse with psyllium a few years ago. This is the beginning of

plaque and I do think that it exists.

Some people make a lot of mucus as a defence against organisms or foods

they are intolerant to.

When this hardens it becomes plaque. I had been on a good diet for quite a

few years and my diet

before was never that bad.

I knew someone who had been to a detox center in Thailand and never passed

the ropey material that

many people say is just psyllium and Bentonite although she was taking this

type of cleanse but when

she got back to the UK she did the VE Irons cleanse and passed a whole lot

of hard ropes which improved