Re: Colon Tubes, Homozon, Dr. Schulze and Hi Y'all!

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on 7/20/02 9:04 PM, wcr2ew at wcr2ew@... wrote:

> Russel, I have never used a colon tube so I can't comment on that,

> but research Dr. Schulze and high enema. I do this and it

> works very well for me. I can feel the water all the way to the

> illeocecol valve (sp). Are you doing enemas all the time? Is that

> why you do them when traveling. I'm leary of doing enemas other than

> when I'm cleansing. My mother and grandmother were both addicted to

> them. If you are not having bowel movements there are other ways to

> get them going. Schulze has a bowel formula that works well and

> there are several on the list that use homozon---did I spell that

> right?

> Elaine

Hi-

I am new to this list.

My name is .

I have a 25 year background in alternative medicine.

Even with all that in me pocket... I am in a real pickle!

What I would like to do is write a response to the above and a few other

items I saw this morning in this group and then send one long email later

today to give you a sense of what my challenge is. I know there's a

possibility that one of you folks has a pearl of wisdom for me!

Schulze: His bowel formula should never be used for more than a few

weeks AT MOST. I have been seriously injured by prolonged use of this

product. I will explain this in my longer email. The only products that make

sense to me right now are by RenewLife - they are the only ones I sell to my

clients.

Colon Tubes: A great invention. One of the major risks of enemas is that

since the hard little plastic tube they give you is only a few inches long,

often the combination of the tube and the stimulation of the water

stimulates the nerve endings at the base of the rectum and makes it hard to

relax and let the water all the way in. I used a skinny colon tube for years

and that was about8-10 inches long. Now I use the standard one that Dr.

, (grandfather of the alternative cancer movement in the US,) has

suggested for over thirty years. It's probably around 18 inches long.

The advantage of using a tube is that the water STARTS to enter your body in

the Transverse colon - that's the part that goes horizontal in your body.

Because it starts wayyyy up there , then as you fill up the natural pressure

of the peristalsis will expel the water easily and, most importantly, you

won't ever suffer from the common ballooning of the descending colon,

(that's the side that you enter on.) The ballooning only happens if you

don't get majority of water into transverse and ascending colon and...

if you do enemas frequently. While mine is a 38 french, I think I will

replace it with an 18 french. Anyone want to buy a second hand... just

kidding!

I was taught ages ago that the easiest way to know if you have gotten the

water all the way to the secum, (end of your colon,) or not is simply to pay

close attentiuon when the water comes out. If the last bit of water that

comes out is significantly higher in temperature, it's almost certain you

hit the mark!

You can find colon tubes easily on the web at:

http://tyler.highspeedweb.net/public_html/pages/equip03a.htm

Homozon: This is a really tricky subject for me. I started out with homozon

15 years ago. I got to be friends with Freibot who is basically

responsible for the manufacturing of the product. Very strange fellow. I

really wanted thius to be all that they said it was but I came away from the

whole experience having a hard time believing that it was really anything

more than mag oxide that someone had run some electricty through.

I know that many of you are trying to find Homozon.

Straight from always seemed best to me.

I think this is his contact number:

International Association for Oxygen Therapy, P.O. Box 1360,

Priest River, ID. 83856. (208) 448-2504.

If anyone has found some really good in depth info on homozon that is NOT

from , I'd appreciate it if you sent it to me.

The older I get, the more I feel really alligned with how the old school

foundationed all their teachings: that you have to start with the colon and

if you don't get the colon cleaned up, most supplementation doesn't get used

by the body and most other efforts to heal other parts of the body and mind

often don't respond. I have journeyed away from this foundation too many

times and I think that that's so about me because there are certain issues

that I was unwilling to grapple with until now. It's clear to me now that I

have a lot to face in this particular area of my body. I am especially

interested at this point in my life in communicating back and forth with

folks who really want to heal the bowel not just keep it moving. For me this

demands not only skillful supplementation, but also a willingness to really

grapple with unresolved issues in the first three chakras.

I look forward to getting to know y'all.

Off to a colonic!

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I looked at the site that you posted and saw a colon tube for the

first time. I don't know why anyone would need this since

the type of tube which is small, is not inserted that far in

me with my colonics. Maybe these are the people who get perferated

colons, using this long tube? I know you posted the reason they

are used but the water flow works using a tube that fits in the

rectum only a short distance of 1/2-3/4 of an inch. Perhaps you

can comment on those who did get their colon perferated?

Liz D.

> Colon Tubes: A great invention. One of the major risks of enemas is

> that

> since the hard little plastic tube they give you is only a few

> inches long,

> often the combination of the tube and the stimulation of the water

> stimulates the nerve endings at the base of the rectum and makes it

> hard to

> relax and let the water all the way in. I used a skinny colon tube

> for years

> and that was about8-10 inches long. Now I use the standard one that

> Dr.

> , (grandfather of the alternative cancer movement in the US,)

> has

> suggested for over thirty years. It's probably around 18 inches

> long.

>

> You can find colon tubes easily on the web at:

> http://tyler.highspeedweb.net/public_html/pages/equip03a.htm

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

on 7/21/02 11:26 PM, elizdettrey at Rabbitbrain@... wrote:

> Perhaps you

> can comment on those who did get their colon perferated?

Have you seen the actual reports on these people?

I have only seen brief snippets of stories of people who supposedly

perforated their colon.

michael

[Guest guest]

Friends, not to be argumentative with or anything but notwithstanding

that colon tubes can sometimes be effective--and with safe, very very careful

use!!--I hope this discussion is not leading anyone to conclude that that the

only way to take a 'high' enema or enemas, and accomplish a thorough colon

cleansing at home, is with a colon tube.....that is just not the case !!!!

The most important single ingredient in achieving a high enema is taking time,

relaxing, and getting in the proper positions, then taking the enema(s) slowly

and gently, permitting the solution to reach the upper colon. Inserting a

device like a colon tube is not necessary if other enema fundamentals are

followed, above all the relaxation aspects. The object is to relax and position

the body, and to take the enema in such a manner, as to permit water/enema

solution to flow 'high' into the colon. Often, a 'high' enema cleansing

requires two or three enemas in succession, the first one being perhaps just a

quart or even less, to clear out the 'descending colon.'

When cleansing the colon at home through enemas, time, patience, and relaxation

are far more important than any device or equipment.

JP

Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 04:26:08 -0000

From: " elizdettrey " <Rabbitbrain@...>

Subject: Re: Colon Tubes, Homozon, Dr. Schulze and Hi Y'all!

I looked at the site that you posted and saw a colon tube for the

first time. I don't know why anyone would need this since

the type of tube which is small, is not inserted that far in

me with my colonics. Maybe these are the people who get perferated

colons, using this long tube? I know you posted the reason they

are used but the water flow works using a tube that fits in the

rectum only a short distance of 1/2-3/4 of an inch. Perhaps you

can comment on those who did get their colon perferated?

Liz D.

> Colon Tubes: A great invention. One of the major risks of enemas is

> that

> since the hard little plastic tube they give you is only a few

> inches long,

> often the combination of the tube and the stimulation of the water

> stimulates the nerve endings at the base of the rectum and makes it

> hard to

> relax and let the water all the way in. I used a skinny colon tube

> for years

> and that was about8-10 inches long. Now I use the standard one that

> Dr.

> , (grandfather of the alternative cancer movement in the US,)

> has

> suggested for over thirty years. It's probably around 18 inches

> long.

>

> You can find colon tubes easily on the web at:

> http://tyler.highspeedweb.net/public_html/pages/equip03a.htm

>

>

" Be Safe, Be Relaxed, Be Good to Yourself. "

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[Guest guest]

No I haven't, that is why I am asking about it.

I have been on this board for about 1 year and a half

and no one has ever talked about the colon tube.

Just a few posts ago there was comment about the dangers

of getting hurt buy colonics. I don't see how this could

be with the type of colonic I received but now I wonder

how safe it is using these colonic tubes? Maybe this

long tube is how persons did get damaged. Seems 3/4 of

the physicians scare patients away having colonics, even

enemas.

One visit I had with a doctor discussing my problems with

constipation and yeast and I told her that sometimes at

night I give myself just this small syringe enema. It only

holds one cup. And you should have heard how she ranted

and raved about the dangers. I only used the 1 cup!

So far nobody replied about anyone they know being hurt

by this. I was on the Candidiasis group and someone mentioned

that they thought they damaged themselves by doing home

colonics. I don't know the details, they never came back.

And I don't know what kind of tube they used either.

Liz D.

>

> Have you seen the actual reports on these people?

> I have only seen brief snippets of stories of people who supposedly

> perforated their colon.

>

> michael

>