Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 Well said, ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 <<He went on to say that a " quack " status these days is a renowned title. 100 years ago the AMA forbade obstetricians to wash their hands before they delivered a baby and called everyone who did a quack.>> That statement is like a person justifying their religion over all others by saying that all great religions were martyred at one time. Hulda is making scientific claims regarding cancer that if true, can be very easily supported. Neither she nor anyone else has been able to do so. <<If an alternative practitioner has a patient that dies, then the AMA justifies handcuffing, jailing, and license revoking.>> Hulda had no license to practice medicine or naturopathy to revoke. Still doesn't have one in the U. S. <<It's a matter of opinion Mahtki who to trust with your health.>> I agree with that. Yet continuous chanting of " Hulda says " doesn't make her ways correct. <<The people who most resist Dr. have the weakest argument against her.>> The strongest arguments against her are her own ridiculous statements which she refuses to back up. The Hulda research group has threatened Ohio State University with a law suit for their web site on Hulda. They haven't sued yet. Do you believe that OSU's arguments about Hulda are weak? Actually, they are damn good! <<You would benefit from her book Mahtki. Then incidentally, d:-) when you try to fuel the fire about whether she's a quack or not, you could post your opinion instead of posting websites to ignite people against each other while you stand on the sidelines and watch. >> False and ludicrous claims by Hudla in her book is what ignites people. The Hulda syndrome would be hilarious if it weren't for the fact that peoples lives are involved. Jim B from a website maintained by Ohio State University: http://www.biosci.ohio-state.edu/~parasite/fasciolopsis.html: Hulda Regehr claims that this parasite (i.e. Fasciolopsis buski) causes " all diseases, " cancer, and HIV and AIDS, and several web sites use these claims in their advertisements to sell various " cures " for these diseases. There are no peer-reviewed, published, scientific studies demonstrating that Fasciolopsis buski causes any of these diseases in humans. Furthermore, there are no peer-reviewed, published, scientific studies demonstrating that the various treatments, tinctures, cleanses, electrical devices (e.g., the " Zapper " ), etc., sold through these web pages have any therapeutic value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2001 Report Share Posted August 1, 2001 You don't have to take sides Mahtki. I wasn't trying to convince anyone of her methods. I am responding to posts in her defense as I will not sit here and read posts from someone who might be getting paid to call her a quack. Jim hasn't been treated by her, and thinks that because she has no expensive school initails after her name makes her methods invaluable, and then he posts these websites trying to discredit her zapper and syncrometer. Then he tries to argue about the fasciolopsis buskii only existing in Asia. Like he really knows. He has no initials after his name either, ha! and sure he can do research on the web about Hulda but I suspect he's been pumped full of BS from someone too. Don't think he hasn't been in cahoots with Barrett and the likes. Barrett e-mailed me within minutes of me sending him a note, so you can guess what went on between and JIm and the other cronies. Barrett needs people like Jim B. More fall guys. What I would like to see is a suit against JIM B. for defamation of Dr. 's character. I lump him in with the rest of them - they all talk out of their you know what and don't know piddly about Dr. 's cures. You can thank Jim for stuffing her down our throats. I am tired of it too. --- mahkti@... wrote: > > Dear , > > I do not want to take any sides in the disagreement > between you and > Jim. Howver, I do think that if you stop trying to > convince everyone > that their health problems can be cured by Hilda > 's methods, I > think we all will be better off. Let the Newbies > find Hilda on > their own. We don't need you stuffing Hilda down > our throats. > > Mahkti > > > > > > > Is> pointing out that she has no medical > > qualifications> of any kind and that > > > none of her claims have ever been independently > > > verified, bashing her? Or> is it simply stating > > facts? > > > > I don't know the specifics of any of her > > qualifications. You keep repeating that she has > none. > > How do you know? Why does it matter? She could be > > self taught which stands for a lot. I see her > > progression in her books. > > > > > Hulda's lack of standing in the " medical " > community > > > would be greatly> enhanced if she would produce > > cured patients and> their medical history. She > > > has had years to do so. > > > > The case histories are in her books and on the > > website. The medical community wants to ignore > and > > suppress the information, so what can she do? > > > > > , if Hulda saved your life from an > > > independently diagnosed illness, > > > and your cure has also been independently > verified, > > > > My cure hasn't been independently verified. I > spent > > enough money on MD's - they're the real quacks - > not > > Hulda . Why would I search these same > doctors > > out and show them I was cured? They would go > " humpf " > > and ask for the next patient to be sent in with no > > interest in what I did or who I saw. > > > > > then I understand your > > > loyalty. If however, her diagnosis of your > terminal > > > illness was hers alone,> and if her diagnosed > cure > > was also hers alone (as is> the case in the vast > > > majority of her 'cures'), then my opinion is > that > > > you've been had. > > > > Not by Dr. . The people who have been had > are > > the ones who go to MD's and are still ill and are > > being prescribed pharmaceutical drugs. > > > > If also> during the course of Hulda saving your > life > > she> didn't get all of your> parasites (which, > from > > what I have read, she always> tells people that > she > > > has done), then why did you post you > difficulties of > > > ridding them yourself? > > > > When I was there, all my parasites were gone. > It's > > not getting reinfected and building up the immune > > system that is the challenge. I also didn't know > > about bowel cleansing. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2001 Report Share Posted August 1, 2001 Dear , It seems like deja vu all over a again. sincerely, Mahkti > > > > > > > Is> pointing out that she has no medical > > > qualifications> of any kind and that > > > > none of her claims have ever been independently > > > > verified, bashing her? Or> is it simply stating > > > facts? > > > > > > I don't know the specifics of any of her > > > qualifications. You keep repeating that she has > > none. > > > How do you know? Why does it matter? She could be > > > self taught which stands for a lot. I see her > > > progression in her books. > > > > > > > Hulda's lack of standing in the " medical " > > community > > > > would be greatly> enhanced if she would produce > > > cured patients and> their medical history. She > > > > has had years to do so. > > > > > > The case histories are in her books and on the > > > website. The medical community wants to ignore > > and > > > suppress the information, so what can she do? > > > > > > > , if Hulda saved your life from an > > > > independently diagnosed illness, > > > > and your cure has also been independently > > verified, > > > > > > My cure hasn't been independently verified. I > > spent > > > enough money on MD's - they're the real quacks - > > not > > > Hulda . Why would I search these same > > doctors > > > out and show them I was cured? They would go > > " humpf " > > > and ask for the next patient to be sent in with no > > > interest in what I did or who I saw. > > > > > > > then I understand your > > > > loyalty. If however, her diagnosis of your > > terminal > > > > illness was hers alone,> and if her diagnosed > > cure > > > was also hers alone (as is> the case in the vast > > > > majority of her 'cures'), then my opinion is > > that > > > > you've been had. > > > > > > Not by Dr. . The people who have been had > > are > > > the ones who go to MD's and are still ill and are > > > being prescribed pharmaceutical drugs. > > > > > > If also> during the course of Hulda saving your > > life > > > she> didn't get all of your> parasites (which, > > from > > > what I have read, she always> tells people that > > she > > > > has done), then why did you post you > > difficulties of > > > > ridding them yourself? > > > > > > When I was there, all my parasites were gone. > > It's > > > not getting reinfected and building up the immune > > > system that is the challenge. I also didn't know > > > about bowel cleansing. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2001 Report Share Posted August 1, 2001 Yes Mahtki, it does. The same bashing, the same responses from me and half a dozen other people. We all wonder when it will end. --- mahkti@... wrote: > Dear , > > It seems like deja vu all over a again. > > sincerely, > Mahkti > > > > > > > > > > > > Is> pointing out that she has no medical > > > > qualifications> of any kind and that > > > > > none of her claims have ever been > independently > > > > > verified, bashing her? Or> is it simply > stating > > > > facts? > > > > > > > > I don't know the specifics of any of her > > > > qualifications. You keep repeating that she > has > > > none. > > > > How do you know? Why does it matter? She > could be > > > > self taught which stands for a lot. I see her > > > > progression in her books. > > > > > > > > > Hulda's lack of standing in the " medical " > > > community > > > > > would be greatly> enhanced if she would > produce > > > > cured patients and> their medical history. > She > > > > > has had years to do so. > > > > > > > > The case histories are in her books and on the > > > > website. The medical community wants to > ignore > > > and > > > > suppress the information, so what can she do? > > > > > > > > > , if Hulda saved your life from an > > > > > independently diagnosed illness, > > > > > and your cure has also been independently > > > verified, > > > > > > > > My cure hasn't been independently verified. I > > > spent > > > > enough money on MD's - they're the real quacks > - > > > not > > > > Hulda . Why would I search these same > > > doctors > > > > out and show them I was cured? They would go > > > " humpf " > > > > and ask for the next patient to be sent in > with no > > > > interest in what I did or who I saw. > > > > > > > > > then I understand your > > > > > loyalty. If however, her diagnosis of your > > > terminal > > > > > illness was hers alone,> and if her > diagnosed > > > cure > > > > was also hers alone (as is> the case in the > vast > > > > > majority of her 'cures'), then my opinion is > > > that > > > > > you've been had. > > > > > > > > Not by Dr. . The people who have been > had > > > are > > > > the ones who go to MD's and are still ill and > are > > > > being prescribed pharmaceutical drugs. > > > > > > > > If also> during the course of Hulda saving > your > > > life > > > > she> didn't get all of your> parasites (which, > > > from > > > > what I have read, she always> tells people > that > > > she > > > > > has done), then why did you post you > > > difficulties of > > > > > ridding them yourself? > > > > > > > > When I was there, all my parasites were gone. > > > It's > > > > not getting reinfected and building up the > immune > > > > system that is the challenge. I also didn't > know > > > > about bowel cleansing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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