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a, Out here in Az there is a great influx of flu in the hospitals...plus

the lung thing is going around... I , too, got the Pneumovax last yr as did

my son....and I do feel that has helped us too. I usually get every lung

infection going around.....one year had it 3x cos kids kept it coming back

into house... I will say I try to stay out of crowded public places and it

does help. I know when I used to work a real job, we had to go to work if we

could no matter what and I always got everything going around..plus I worked

in buildings that had no fresh air (sick building)from outside so it was

recirculated sick air...Hope everyone stays well ...Judy in AZ

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Judy,

When I go out in public, especially to a food store, I keep my gloves

on. Everyone coughs into their hands and then touches everything, so I hope

it helps keep me from getting it. It's great that the shot stopped you from

getting pneumonia. I hope it continues to protect you and your son.

a

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Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 12:16 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] flu shots

> a, Out here in Az there is a great influx of flu in the

hospitals...plus

> the lung thing is going around... I , too, got the Pneumovax last yr as

did

> my son....and I do feel that has helped us too. I usually get every lung

> infection going around.....one year had it 3x cos kids kept it coming back

> into house... I will say I try to stay out of crowded public places and it

> does help. I know when I used to work a real job, we had to go to work if

we

> could no matter what and I always got everything going around..plus I

worked

> in buildings that had no fresh air (sick building)from outside so it was

> recirculated sick air...Hope everyone stays well ...Judy in AZ

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  • 4 years later...

yeah, that if your immune system is compromised you can get pretty sick. I

haven't met anyone yet with CML who had that happen,

though.

jennifer bosse wrote:

> I did get one and was encouraged by my dr. to do so. Did they give you a

reason why they strongly discourage it? JEnnifer B

>

> Rosen-Lum <rrosenlum@...> wrote:How does everyone feel about

CML and flu shots? I have been strongly

> discouraged from getting one and strongly advised to get one from various

> health care providers.

>

> Thanks.

>

> kathydf47 wrote:

>

> > Thanks, Zavie, for posting the article. Lord knows I thank God often

> > for Dr. Druker & his dedication -- and it's nice to read about what a

> > great guy he is, too.

> >

> > C -- you are very thoughtful to bring Dr. Druker et al cookies --

> > and indeed lucky to have him as your doctor.

> >

> > Re fatigue -- to combat my fatigue I try to stay away from cookies &

> > other sugary sweets (not always easy as I have a sweet tooth the size

> > of Texas), make sure I get enough protein each day, and I do exercise.

> > If I'm really feeling pooped after a full day at work, I snooze for

> > about 10 minutes when I get home and this helps, too.

> >

> > Best to all,

> > Kathy

> > dx 5/03

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I did get one and was encouraged by my dr. to do so. Did they give you a reason

why they strongly discourage it? JEnnifer B

Rosen-Lum <rrosenlum@...> wrote:How does everyone feel about CML

and flu shots? I have been strongly

discouraged from getting one and strongly advised to get one from various

health care providers.

Thanks.

kathydf47 wrote:

> Thanks, Zavie, for posting the article. Lord knows I thank God often

> for Dr. Druker & his dedication -- and it's nice to read about what a

> great guy he is, too.

>

> C -- you are very thoughtful to bring Dr. Druker et al cookies --

> and indeed lucky to have him as your doctor.

>

> Re fatigue -- to combat my fatigue I try to stay away from cookies &

> other sugary sweets (not always easy as I have a sweet tooth the size

> of Texas), make sure I get enough protein each day, and I do exercise.

> If I'm really feeling pooped after a full day at work, I snooze for

> about 10 minutes when I get home and this helps, too.

>

> Best to all,

> Kathy

> dx 5/03

>

>

>

>

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Well my Hem Doc adivises to get flu shots and for all

my family members to do the same ..

which we did

SkipD

--- Rosen-Lum <rrosenlum@...> wrote:

> How does everyone feel about CML and flu shots? I

> have been strongly

> discouraged from getting one and strongly advised to

> get one from various

> health care providers.

>

> Thanks.

>

>

> kathydf47 wrote:

>

> > Thanks, Zavie, for posting the article. Lord

> knows I thank God often

> > for Dr. Druker & his dedication -- and it's nice

> to read about what a

> > great guy he is, too.

> >

> > C -- you are very thoughtful to bring Dr.

> Druker et al cookies --

> > and indeed lucky to have him as your doctor.

> >

> > Re fatigue -- to combat my fatigue I try to stay

> away from cookies &

> > other sugary sweets (not always easy as I have a

> sweet tooth the size

> > of Texas), make sure I get enough protein each

> day, and I do exercise.

> > If I'm really feeling pooped after a full day at

> work, I snooze for

> > about 10 minutes when I get home and this helps,

> too.

> >

> > Best to all,

> > Kathy

> > dx 5/03

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Kathy,

When it comes to CML, I prefer to get my information and instructions from

OHSU. Their advice is to get the flu shot.

I would like to see documentation (i.e. scientific journal papers) from the

health provider that says people on Gleevec should not get flu shots.

Zavie

[ ] flu shots

How does everyone feel about CML and flu shots? I have been strongly

discouraged from getting one and strongly advised to get one from various

health care providers.

Thanks.

kathydf47 wrote:

> Thanks, Zavie, for posting the article. Lord knows I thank God often

> for Dr. Druker & his dedication -- and it's nice to read about what a

> great guy he is, too.

>

> C -- you are very thoughtful to bring Dr. Druker et al cookies --

> and indeed lucky to have him as your doctor.

>

> Re fatigue -- to combat my fatigue I try to stay away from cookies &

> other sugary sweets (not always easy as I have a sweet tooth the size

> of Texas), make sure I get enough protein each day, and I do exercise.

> If I'm really feeling pooped after a full day at work, I snooze for

> about 10 minutes when I get home and this helps, too.

>

> Best to all,

> Kathy

> dx 5/03

>

>

>

>

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Flu shots are given to increase the immune system, even those with compromised

systems. Admittedly so, it can give cause for alarm but only in extreme cases.

I've taken it since being diagnosed 5 years ago.

Just an opinion....

Rosen-Lum <rrosenlum@...> wrote:

How does everyone feel about CML and flu shots? I have been strongly

discouraged from getting one and strongly advised to get one from various

health care providers.

Thanks.

kathydf47 wrote:

> Thanks, Zavie, for posting the article. Lord knows I thank God often

> for Dr. Druker & his dedication -- and it's nice to read about what a

> great guy he is, too.

>

> C -- you are very thoughtful to bring Dr. Druker et al cookies --

> and indeed lucky to have him as your doctor.

>

> Re fatigue -- to combat my fatigue I try to stay away from cookies &

> other sugary sweets (not always easy as I have a sweet tooth the size

> of Texas), make sure I get enough protein each day, and I do exercise.

> If I'm really feeling pooped after a full day at work, I snooze for

> about 10 minutes when I get home and this helps, too.

>

> Best to all,

> Kathy

> dx 5/03

>

>

>

>

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you talked me into it! thanks, all!

Skip Duffie wrote:

> Well my Hem Doc adivises to get flu shots and for all

> my family members to do the same ..

> which we did

> SkipD

>

> --- Rosen-Lum <rrosenlum@...> wrote:

>

> > How does everyone feel about CML and flu shots? I

> > have been strongly

> > discouraged from getting one and strongly advised to

> > get one from various

> > health care providers.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> >

> > kathydf47 wrote:

> >

> > > Thanks, Zavie, for posting the article. Lord

> > knows I thank God often

> > > for Dr. Druker & his dedication -- and it's nice

> > to read about what a

> > > great guy he is, too.

> > >

> > > C -- you are very thoughtful to bring Dr.

> > Druker et al cookies --

> > > and indeed lucky to have him as your doctor.

> > >

> > > Re fatigue -- to combat my fatigue I try to stay

> > away from cookies &

> > > other sugary sweets (not always easy as I have a

> > sweet tooth the size

> > > of Texas), make sure I get enough protein each

> > day, and I do exercise.

> > > If I'm really feeling pooped after a full day at

> > work, I snooze for

> > > about 10 minutes when I get home and this helps,

> > too.

> > >

> > > Best to all,

> > > Kathy

> > > dx 5/03

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Strongly in favor of taking. I have not missed since 1992 and have

done well. dxd CML in 2003 and doctors I see recommend it highly.

Red Cross nurse that gave me my flu shot the last two years has me

me on her must take list because of heart and CML and my wife &

daughter work in day care with babies less that six months old.

Today at the VA Cancer clinic where I get my meds was giving flu

shots to any patient that had not had theirs (Darn missed a free

one).

H.

dxd 2/03

400mg Gleevec 3/03

PCRU 6/03

QPCR .001 9/05

>

> > Thanks, Zavie, for posting the article. Lord knows I thank God

often

> > for Dr. Druker & his dedication -- and it's nice to read about

what a

> > great guy he is, too.

> >

> > C -- you are very thoughtful to bring Dr. Druker et al

cookies --

> > and indeed lucky to have him as your doctor.

> >

> > Re fatigue -- to combat my fatigue I try to stay away from

cookies &

> > other sugary sweets (not always easy as I have a sweet tooth the

size

> > of Texas), make sure I get enough protein each day, and I do

exercise.

> > If I'm really feeling pooped after a full day at work, I snooze

for

> > about 10 minutes when I get home and this helps, too.

> >

> > Best to all,

> > Kathy

> > dx 5/03

> >

> >

> >

> >

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This is, yet again, a situation where everyone is different.

I am TERRIFIED of getting the flu. Positively TERRIFIED.

I am NOT ALLOWED to get the flu shot ever again. I tested positive for

sensitivity to chicken eggs. It was an incredibly minor sensitity, but it

was positive. I only had the flu once in my life, and I thought I was going

to die as well. I've never been so scared. I've made it through the last 2

flu seasons safely, every member of my household gets a flu shot...

but I can't. I asked that since I get Xolair could I TRY it because I've

gotten it every other year... I've been told no.

I don't know what to do. I can't think of anything so scary as the

possibility of getting the flu. All I can do is hope that it just doesn't

happen to me.

I'm really glad that so many of you can. And I'm not being sarcastic about

that, I'm so glad that it's one thing that so many of you don't have to

worry about on top of all the stuff you DO have to worry about, you know?

God Bless and good luck Ron. I hope the flu passes you by from now on!

Thank Goodness you've changed your mind about getting that shot!

~

-------Original Message-------

From: ronaldcrpntr

Date: 11/13/06 20:13:46

Subject: [ ] Flu Shots

In the past, I would do whatever I needed to do to get out of getting the

flu shot. Last

February I spent 9 days in intensive care with influenza, Pneumonia (yes I

had the shot), and

then asthma related stuff. My pulmo told me that if I had not had my flu

shot I would have

died. He would not have been able to save me. Needless to say, the day the

flu shot is

offered, I am there, no excuses. This episode kind of changed my priorities

a little bit.

Ron

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I agree, each of our systems are different and we should consult with

our Dr at each level of treatment.

I was just sharing, that for me, the flu shot is of paramount

importance in my overall care and that conclusion came after a life

threatening situation. I have been on Xolair for 1 1/2 years and the

realization that my Dr still oversees my asthma with a multifaceted

approach requires my cooperation, especially since I have a history

of contempt for the medical profession.

Ron

On Nov 13, 2006, at 7:22 PM, Currier wrote:

> This is, yet again, a situation where everyone is different.

>

> I am TERRIFIED of getting the flu. Positively TERRIFIED.

>

> I am NOT ALLOWED to get the flu shot ever again. I tested positive for

> sensitivity to chicken eggs. It was an incredibly minor sensitity,

> but it

> was positive. I only had the flu once in my life, and I thought I

> was going

> to die as well. I've never been so scared. I've made it through the

> last 2

> flu seasons safely, every member of my household gets a flu shot...

>

> but I can't. I asked that since I get Xolair could I TRY it because

> I've

> gotten it every other year... I've been told no.

>

> I don't know what to do. I can't think of anything so scary as the

> possibility of getting the flu. All I can do is hope that it just

> doesn't

> happen to me.

>

> I'm really glad that so many of you can. And I'm not being

> sarcastic about

> that, I'm so glad that it's one thing that so many of you don't

> have to

> worry about on top of all the stuff you DO have to worry about, you

> know?

>

> God Bless and good luck Ron. I hope the flu passes you by from now on!

> Thank Goodness you've changed your mind about getting that shot!

> ~

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: ronaldcrpntr

> Date: 11/13/06 20:13:46

>

> Subject: [ ] Flu Shots

>

> In the past, I would do whatever I needed to do to get out of

> getting the

> flu shot. Last

> February I spent 9 days in intensive care with influenza, Pneumonia

> (yes I

> had the shot), and

> then asthma related stuff. My pulmo told me that if I had not had

> my flu

> shot I would have

> died. He would not have been able to save me. Needless to say, the

> day the

> flu shot is

> offered, I am there, no excuses. This episode kind of changed my

> priorities

> a little bit.

>

> Ron

>

>

>

>

>

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I would take the flu shot if I had not had such a bad reaction to it last year.

I think I have already had the flu over the past few weeks. I am taking a

gamble on taking xolair but I am miserable really miserable. did anyone else

feel this bad? wheezing and sob but usually mine go away by the time I get to

the doctor. make that used to but not anymore.

Carpenter <cowtrail@...> wrote: I agree, each of our

systems are different and we should consult with

our Dr at each level of treatment.

I was just sharing, that for me, the flu shot is of paramount

importance in my overall care and that conclusion came after a life

threatening situation. I have been on Xolair for 1 1/2 years and the

realization that my Dr still oversees my asthma with a multifaceted

approach requires my cooperation, especially since I have a history

of contempt for the medical profession.

Ron

On Nov 13, 2006, at 7:22 PM, Currier wrote:

> This is, yet again, a situation where everyone is different.

>

> I am TERRIFIED of getting the flu. Positively TERRIFIED.

>

> I am NOT ALLOWED to get the flu shot ever again. I tested positive for

> sensitivity to chicken eggs. It was an incredibly minor sensitity,

> but it

> was positive. I only had the flu once in my life, and I thought I

> was going

> to die as well. I've never been so scared. I've made it through the

> last 2

> flu seasons safely, every member of my household gets a flu shot...

>

> but I can't. I asked that since I get Xolair could I TRY it because

> I've

> gotten it every other year... I've been told no.

>

> I don't know what to do. I can't think of anything so scary as the

> possibility of getting the flu. All I can do is hope that it just

> doesn't

> happen to me.

>

> I'm really glad that so many of you can. And I'm not being

> sarcastic about

> that, I'm so glad that it's one thing that so many of you don't

> have to

> worry about on top of all the stuff you DO have to worry about, you

> know?

>

> God Bless and good luck Ron. I hope the flu passes you by from now on!

> Thank Goodness you've changed your mind about getting that shot!

> ~

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: ronaldcrpntr

> Date: 11/13/06 20:13:46

>

> Subject: [ ] Flu Shots

>

> In the past, I would do whatever I needed to do to get out of

> getting the

> flu shot. Last

> February I spent 9 days in intensive care with influenza, Pneumonia

> (yes I

> had the shot), and

> then asthma related stuff. My pulmo told me that if I had not had

> my flu

> shot I would have

> died. He would not have been able to save me. Needless to say, the

> day the

> flu shot is

> offered, I am there, no excuses. This episode kind of changed my

> priorities

> a little bit.

>

> Ron

>

>

>

>

>

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  • 2 years later...

Hi there,

I'm planning on getting the seasonal flu shot this year.

I'm also wondering about the H1N1 shot. I don't seem to be in the category of

people who should get the shot, except that people with immune system problems

are encouraged to get it.

I'm pretty healthy and have been gluten free since I was diagnosed with CD

nearly 5 years ago. So I don't know if I would qualify as having a compromised

immune system.

So, I'm wondering if anyone has discussed this with their doctor? My first

thought is that I'm not a candidate for H1N1, but again I was curious if anyone

has explored this topic.

thanks,

p.s. I'm not concerned with all of the controversies surrounding vaccines in

general, etc.

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Flu shots

Karine,

We get pneumonia shots every 5 years, but that is separate from the flu shots.

This year, there will be 3 vaccines in 1 shot for the annual flu shot. Some

people in the group are complaining that they got sick for a day and some 3

days. I wrote the original post saying that we had to make a decision about

whether we were going to get the shot. Some people get it and others do not

because of the ingredients like mercury being used. Last year, it was said that

individual shots did not have he mercury, only the large bottles that they

refilled after giving them to a large group, like a school. That is what I

remember from last year. If someone has more recent information they can post

it here and every one can make up their own minds about what is best for them.

This is a personal decision everyone has to make for themselves after speaking

to their doctors.

This is a website with a strong warning about who should get the FLU MIST (

there are people with certain conditions who should definitely not take this, so

read up about this nasal mist vaccine before you take it. You should not get

FluMist if you: are allergic to eggs, gentamicin, gelatin, or arginine; have

ever had a life-threatening reaction to influenza vaccinations; or are 2 through

17 years old and take aspirin or medicines containing aspirin.

http://www.flumist.com/?dbsrc=mi-flum-eng-IPick-nnn-unbrned-insem-nnn & WT.sr\

ch=1 & WT.mc_id=1115

http://www.health.state.ny.us/diseases/communicable/influenza/flumist.htm

______________________________

These are some of the agents that may be in your flu shots and see if you still

want to take a flu shot. I am trying to present both sides for the pros and

cons.

Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)

* Phenol, also known as carbolic acid (this is used as a disinfectant, dye)

* Formaldehyde, a known cancer-causing agent

* Aluminum, which is associated with Alzheimer's disease and seizures and also

cancer producing in laboratory mice (it is used as an additive to promote

antibody response)

* Thimerosal (a mercury disinfectant/preservative) can result in brain injury

and autoimmune disease

* Neomycin and Streptomycin (used as antibiotics) have caused allergic reaction

in some people.

http://answers./question/index?qid=20081008080922AAhrUij

________________________________

I hope that this answers some of your questions, Karine.

FYI,

Lottie Duthu

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