Gluten in cheese?

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Sorry, had to get that out. This is just my frustration

when I hear health care providers giving blanket information that is WRONG!

Most cheeses are gluten-free. A very few may have gluten,

especially blue cheeses or molded cheeses that have had mold started on bread

crumbs. Again, check the ingredients or otherwise verify that the cheese

is gluten-free. Other cheeses that you should look closely at are highly

processed cheeses and grated cheeses that may contain gluten fillers.

That said, in 20 years of checking I have only found one cheese that had gluten

in it (a fresh mozzarella made with malted vinegar), which does not mean that there

aren’t more cheeses out there that have snuck in some gluten.

Now, if your gastro wants you to avoid dairy, that is different;

then cheese is out. If your gastro argues the point, ask where the

information came from or what ingredient exactly is the problem. Some

years ago annatto coloring was thought to contain gluten, but apparently some

folks were just reacting to the annatto. If you are trying to eliminate

the last bits of gluten, cheese is unlikely to be the culprit.

It would be overly restrictive to eliminate all cheese just

because a very few may contain gluten. Check the gluten status and

keep eating the vast majority of cheeses that are GF!

Pam

Subject: [ ] Gluten in cheese?

Is this true? I just saw a gastroenterologist at

Kaiser today who said that I can't eat cheese because of the gluten in it. Is

this true? Are there cheeses that have gluten?

in Walnut Creek

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Pam, Thanks for the quick response. Personally I think the gastro guy was a lunatic! He was very cavalier about the whole thing, didn't really want to know much about my health history, and just wanted me to sign on the dotted line for a biopsy.He said if I didn't have diarreah it was not Celiac.  He even said "Let's just go to where the money is."!! I was backing away from him the whole time he was talking to me. Especially after he said that cheese had gluten in it.  I immediately went across the hall to my gp ( it was at Kaiser) and he is doing some further testing (not a biopsy).   in Walnut CreekFrom: Pam Newbury <pknewbury@...> Sent: Fri, December 4, 2009 7:39:44 PMSubject: [ ] Gluten in cheese?   AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH HHHHHHHHHH! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!   Sorry, had to get that out.  This is just my frustration when I hear health care providers giving blanket information that is WRONG!   Most cheeses are gluten-free.  A very few may have gluten, especially blue cheeses or molded cheeses that have had mold started on bread crumbs.  Again, check the ingredients or otherwise verify that the cheese is gluten-free.  Other cheeses that you should look closely at are highly processed cheeses and grated cheeses that may contain

gluten fillers.  That said, in 20 years of checking I have only found one cheese that had gluten in it (a fresh mozzarella made with malted vinegar), which does not mean that there aren’t more cheeses out there that have snuck in some gluten.    Now, if your gastro wants you to avoid dairy, that is different; then cheese is out.  If your gastro argues the point, ask where the information came from or what ingredient exactly is the problem.  Some years ago annatto coloring was thought to contain gluten, but apparently some folks were just reacting to the annatto.  If you are trying to eliminate the last bits of gluten, cheese is unlikely to be the culprit.   It would be overly restrictive to eliminate all cheese just because a very few may contain gluten.  Check the gluten status  and keep eating the vast majority of cheeses that are GF!   Pam   Subject: [ ] Gluten in cheese?     Is this true? I just saw a gastroenterologist at Kaiser

today who said that I can't eat cheese because of the gluten in it. Is this true? Are there cheeses that have gluten? in Walnut Creek __

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jeez, you should report that guy to the medical board or something, he sounds awful and terribly unqualified! at least send a complaint to kaiser. From: changeartist88@...Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2009 19:55:54 -0800Subject: Re: [ ] Gluten in cheese?

Pam, Thanks for the quick response. Personally I think the gastro guy was a lunatic! He was very cavalier about the whole thing, didn't really want to know much about my health history, and just wanted me to sign on the dotted line for a biopsy.He said if I didn't have diarreah it was not Celiac. He even said "Let's just go to where the money is."!! I was backing away from him the whole time he was talking to me. Especially after he said that cheese had gluten in it. I immediately went across the hall to my gp ( it was at Kaiser) and he is doing some further testing (not a biopsy). in Walnut CreekFrom: Pam Newbury <pknewburyearthlink (DOT) net> Sent: Fri, December 4, 2009 7:39:44 PMSubject: [ ] Gluten in cheese? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH HHHHHHHHHH! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!! Sorry, had to get that out. This is just my frustration when I hear health care providers giving blanket information that is WRONG! Most cheeses are gluten-free. A very few may have gluten, especially blue cheeses or molded cheeses that have had mold started on bread crumbs. Again, check the ingredients or otherwise verify that the cheese is gluten-free. Other cheeses that you should look closely at are highly processed cheeses and grated cheeses that may contain

gluten fillers. That said, in 20 years of checking I have only found one cheese that had gluten in it (a fresh mozzarella made with malted vinegar), which does not mean that there aren’t more cheeses out there that have snuck in some gluten. Now, if your gastro wants you to avoid dairy, that is different; then cheese is out. If your gastro argues the point, ask where the information came from or what ingredient exactly is the problem. Some years ago annatto coloring was thought to contain gluten, but apparently some folks were just reacting to the annatto. If you are trying to eliminate the last bits of gluten, cheese is unlikely to be the culprit. It would be overly restrictive to eliminate all cheese just because a very few may contain gluten. Check the gluten status and keep eating the vast majority of cheeses that are GF! Pam Subject: [ ] Gluten in cheese? Is this true? I just saw a gastroenterologist at Kaiser

today who said that I can't eat cheese because of the gluten in it. Is this true? Are there cheeses that have gluten? in Walnut Creek __

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From what I understand is it USED TO BE cheeses with a vein (blue) were forbidden for celiacs. It used to be standard practice to use bread as the starter for blue cheeses. It is my understanding bread is no longer used as a starter; this is from several cheese producers. This is what I have learned from cheese experts, however I have not verified this with my MD. All other cheeses are supposed to be GF unless they have "artificial flavoring" added. Shredded cheese is sometimes coated with a gluten source to prevent caking.On Dec 4, 2009, at 7:01 PM, wrote:Is this true? I just saw a gastroenterologist at Kaiser today who said that I can't eat cheese because of the gluten in it. Is this true? Are there cheeses that have gluten? in Walnut Creek

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Every shredded cheese I've bought so far has stated clearly that it is coated in corn starch. If they used a gluten starch, it should be right there on the ingredient list. I know there is always talk about "hidden gluten" so I guess if there isn't any anti-caking agent noted on the ingredient list, that might be cause for concern...

As for blue cheese, look below for an article from Surefoodsliving.com. My GI says that even when a blue cheese is made from a bread starter it is unlikely there is gluten in the final product (it's not like the bread is actually mixed into the cheese) but I'm not aware of any scientific data backing up his claim so make of it what you will...

Now as for Kaiser, I see Doug Corley in SF and really like him. My only issue with him is how dismissive he is of nutritionists. But he totally "gets" celiac and even acts as camp doctor for the kids' celiac camp. He's also just a very nice man and very approachable. I highly recommend him if the schlep into SF isn't too far for someone in Walnut Creek...

To the original poster: I wish you the best of luck figuring out what's going on with you, celiac or otherwise. You have to be pushy to get to the bottom of things sometimes. And don't take any nonsense from a jerky doctor (or anyone else for that matter)!

--Tristan

Is blue cheese gluten-free?Posted on December 6th, 2007 by alison

There are many stories about how blue cheese came to be. They all involve cheese, bread and a cave. The basic tale is this: someone left a piece of bread in a cave where the cheese was being aged. The bread became moldy and the mold spread to the cheese. Someone came back to the cave days or weeks later, and yum yum yum - moldy blue cheese! An industry was born. They began to purposely inject cheese with bread mold during processing, leading to the creation of blue or green-veined cheeses such as Roquefort, Gorgonzola, Cambozola, and Stilton.

Do veined cheeses contain gluten? This question comes up a lot when people have to change their diet due to celiac disease, gluten intolerance, or a wheat allergy. After conducting my own blue cheese investigation, I have the answer: some blue cheeses do contain gluten, but most do not.

Some blue cheese is still made the old-fashioned way using bread mold. However, most cheeses produced in the U.S. today are not started with a bread mold because it’s not efficient or economical. Cheesemakers can now buy liquid blue mold that is made in a laboratory (as one blue cheese manufacturer explained to me). These do not contain gluten.

Yup, that’s right. You can eat blue cheese. Just make sure it is one of the gluten-free ones listed below. I will update this list as I get more information.

Gluten-free blue cheeses:

BelGioso gorgonzola - verified via website that all their cheeses are gluten-freeMarin French Cheese Factory blue cheese - verified via phoneMaytag blue cheese - verified via phone (it used to contain gluten, but now does not)Montforte blue cheese and gorgonzola - verified via phonePt. Reyes blue cheese - verified via phone and websiteRosenborg blue cheese - verified via webPaladin MonSalvat blue cheese - verified via email

Gluten-free blue cheese stuffed olives:

Armstrong Olives - verified via phone

Gluten-free blue cheese dressing:

no info yet

NOT gluten-free:

Saga blue cheese - verified via email that it contains wheat

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I was diagnosed by Lynn Shlager, GI in Kaiser SF. I had no symptoms, and my blood test was negative. He continued to a biopsy, which was positive, followed by another biopsy six months later to make sure I was healing properly (and to confirm the diagnosis.) He's not good at relaying information, but he's an excellent diagnostician. He diagnosed another very serious AD before CD.

H.

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Subject: Re: [ ] Gluten in cheese?

Every shredded cheese I've bought so far has stated clearly that it is coated in corn starch. If they used a gluten starch, it should be right there on the ingredient list. I know there is always talk about "hidden gluten" so I guess if there isn't any anti-caking agent noted on the ingredient list, that might be cause for concern...

As for blue cheese, look below for an article from Surefoodsliving.com. My GI says that even when a blue cheese is made from a bread starter it is unlikely there is gluten in the final product (it's not like the bread is actually mixed into the cheese) but I'm not aware of any scientific data backing up his claim so make of it what you will...

Now as for Kaiser, I see Doug Corley in SF and really like him. My only issue with him is how dismissive he is of nutritionists. But he totally "gets" celiac and even acts as camp doctor for the kids' celiac camp. He's also just a very nice man and very approachable. I highly recommend him if the schlep into SF isn't too far for someone in Walnut Creek...

To the original poster: I wish you the best of luck figuring out what's going on with you, celiac or otherwise. You have to be pushy to get to the bottom of things sometimes. And don't take any nonsense from a jerky doctor (or anyone else for that matter)!

--Tristan

Is blue cheese gluten-free?Posted on December 6th, 2007 by alison

There are many stories about how blue cheese came to be. They all involve cheese, bread and a cave. The basic tale is this: someone left a piece of bread in a cave where the cheese was being aged. The bread became moldy and the mold spread to the cheese. Someone came back to the cave days or weeks later, and yum yum yum - moldy blue cheese! An industry was born. They began to purposely inject cheese with bread mold during processing, leading to the creation of blue or green-veined cheeses such as Roquefort, Gorgonzola, Cambozola, and Stilton.

Do veined cheeses contain gluten? This question comes up a lot when people have to change their diet due to celiac disease, gluten intolerance, or a wheat allergy. After conducting my own blue cheese investigation, I have the answer: some blue cheeses do contain gluten, but most do not.

Some blue cheese is still made the old-fashioned way using bread mold. However, most cheeses produced in the U.S. today are not started with a bread mold because it’s not efficient or economical. Cheesemakers can now buy liquid blue mold that is made in a laboratory (as one blue cheese manufacturer explained to me). These do not contain gluten.

Yup, that’s right. You can eat blue cheese. Just make sure it is one of the gluten-free ones listed below. I will update this list as I get more information.

Gluten-free blue cheeses:

BelGioso gorgonzola - verified via website that all their cheeses are gluten-freeMarin French Cheese Factory blue cheese - verified via phoneMaytag blue cheese - verified via phone (it used to contain gluten, but now does not)Montforte blue cheese and gorgonzola - verified via phonePt. Reyes blue cheese - verified via phone and websiteRosenborg blue cheese - verified via webPaladin MonSalvat blue cheese - verified via email

Gluten-free blue cheese stuffed olives:

Armstrong Olives - verified via phone

Gluten-free blue cheese dressing:

no info yet

NOT gluten-free:

Saga blue cheese - verified via email that it contains wheat