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I had some McCann's Irish oatmeal today, and oh boy, did I get glutened. I

thought they were supposed to be safe, but I guess not. Anyone else have

experience with McCann's?

Lori

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This is what their website says:

Are McCann's Oat products gluten free?

All McCann’s oat products are processed in

a dedicated oatmeal mill that handles only oatmeal. In the supply chain between

farm and mill, there is a possible cross contamination with other grains, such

as wheat and barley but we reckon that the level of non-oat grains to be less

than 0.05%. Cleaning equipment within the milling process would remove the vast

majority of these grains along with other elements such as stones, straw etc.

But we cannot guarantee that McCann’s oats

are totally gluten free and we recommend that consumers use their own judgement

as to whether they wish to use our oatmeal or not. Many celiacs can tolerate

our oatmeal products without any adverse effect but they may not suit those who

are particularly sensitive.

http://www.mccanns.ie/pages/faq.html

Do you react to other oatmeals as well, or

is this your first try?

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of fiestacranberry

Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009

8:23 PM

Subject: [ ] glutened

I had some McCann's Irish oatmeal today, and oh boy,

did I get glutened. I thought they were supposed to be safe, but I guess not.

Anyone else have experience with McCann's?

Lori

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I used to be a patient of Dr. Aron's, whom a few people have sort of

raved about here. My experience with him was not entirely great, but

anyway he had told me that oats have a certain length of the offensive

polypeptide protein chain in common with wheat, barley, and rye. He

said it is much shorter and that's why people have hypothesized that

it's tolerated by some gluten-sensitive patients. " GF oats " is a new

concept to me and I bet a misnomer in the sense that most or all

grains have glutens or protein complexes called gliadins (corn and

rice for sure). Just so happens most of us are allergic to wheat,

barley and rye, and oats perhaps?

Naren

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Lillyth Denaghy

Keogh-Quillan<lillythdenaghykeogh@...> wrote:

>

>

> This is what their website says:

>

>

>

> Are McCann's Oat products gluten free?

>

> All McCann’s oat products are processed in a dedicated oatmeal mill that

> handles only oatmeal. In the supply chain between farm and mill, there is a

> possible cross contamination with other grains, such as wheat and barley but

> we reckon that the level of non-oat grains to be less than 0.05%. Cleaning

> equipment within the milling process would remove the vast majority of these

> grains along with other elements such as stones, straw etc.

>

> But we cannot guarantee that McCann’s oats are totally gluten free and we

> recommend that consumers use their own judgement as to whether they wish to

> use our oatmeal or not. Many celiacs can tolerate our oatmeal products

> without any adverse effect but they may not suit those who are particularly

> sensitive.

>

> http://www.mccanns.ie/pages/faq.html

>

>

>

> Do you react to other oatmeals as well, or is this your first try?

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: [mailto: ]

> On Behalf Of fiestacranberry

> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 8:23 PM

>

> Subject: [ ] glutened

>

>

>

>

>

> I had some McCann's Irish oatmeal today, and oh boy, did I get glutened. I

> thought they were supposed to be safe, but I guess not. Anyone else have

> experience with McCann's?

>

> Lori

>

>

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Dr. Greene said something similar at the 2006 Celiac Conference.

20% of all celiacs have " a celiac like response to even gluten-free oats " .

I am of the mind like you, Naren, which is why I had asked if there was any

research on whether " refractory sprue " was simply the inability to tolerate

OTHER grains, as well as the " gluten " grains.

My own personal thoughts? I think CD is our body's way of saying " DON'T EAT

GRAINS! "

I personally eat almost none, and it works great for me!

BTW, Dr. Greene posted a slide of the grain continuum (my words, not his),

oats were right next to wheat/barley/rye.

-----Original Message-----

From: [mailto: ]

On Behalf Of Naren Wadhwani

Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 9:30 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] glutened

I used to be a patient of Dr. Aron's, whom a few people have sort of

raved about here. My experience with him was not entirely great, but

anyway he had told me that oats have a certain length of the offensive

polypeptide protein chain in common with wheat, barley, and rye. He

said it is much shorter and that's why people have hypothesized that

it's tolerated by some gluten-sensitive patients. " GF oats " is a new

concept to me and I bet a misnomer in the sense that most or all

grains have glutens or protein complexes called gliadins (corn and

rice for sure). Just so happens most of us are allergic to wheat,

barley and rye, and oats perhaps?

Naren

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Lillyth Denaghy

Keogh-Quillan<lillythdenaghykeogh@...> wrote:

>

>

> This is what their website says:

>

>

>

> Are McCann's Oat products gluten free?

>

> All McCann's oat products are processed in a dedicated oatmeal mill that

> handles only oatmeal. In the supply chain between farm and mill, there is

a

> possible cross contamination with other grains, such as wheat and barley

but

> we reckon that the level of non-oat grains to be less than 0.05%. Cleaning

> equipment within the milling process would remove the vast majority of

these

> grains along with other elements such as stones, straw etc.

>

> But we cannot guarantee that McCann's oats are totally gluten free and we

> recommend that consumers use their own judgement as to whether they wish

to

> use our oatmeal or not. Many celiacs can tolerate our oatmeal products

> without any adverse effect but they may not suit those who are

particularly

> sensitive.

>

> http://www.mccanns.ie/pages/faq.html

>

>

>

> Do you react to other oatmeals as well, or is this your first try?

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> From: [mailto: ]

> On Behalf Of fiestacranberry

> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 8:23 PM

>

> Subject: [ ] glutened

>

>

>

>

>

> I had some McCann's Irish oatmeal today, and oh boy, did I get glutened. I

> thought they were supposed to be safe, but I guess not. Anyone else have

> experience with McCann's?

>

> Lori

>

>

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> I used to be a patient of Dr. Aron's, whom a few people have sort of

> raved about here. My experience with him was not entirely great,

neither was mine. I think he's a disorganized quack. He confused me with

another patient more than once, reading off the wrong chart. Even though I've

ALWAYS had to wait way past my appointment time with him, he reprimanded _me_

for being late to an appointment, when in fact I was on time and his

receptionist never told him I was there. Or maybe she did and he forgot. He

never sent my records on to my GP, even though I asked him to. And he gave me

twice the normal dosage of demerol during the biopsy, which induced a psychotic

reaction. I would NEVER go back to him.

Lori

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