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Never been to Poland. What makes it better? American beer

tends to be too carbonated for me. I like Dos Equis dark from

Mexico, some of the Japanese beers, and German beer, but

only in German. I think they process export beers differently

than the ones you get in German beer gardens. I've had beer

in Romania and I think they were less carbonated.

I've never been a committed drinker so after getting the ICD,

I stopped completely. Once in a while I get a non-alcoholic

brew like Odouls. You get all the bitter without the buzz.

On Jun 21, 2004, at 10:25 PM, alamo wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I think that the best beer all over the world we have here, in Poland

> :)

> Have you ever taste it?

>

> , Poland

>

> Re: Re: Beer

>

>

>> Bier in German, so smooth it was like drinking milk. When I visited

>> some friends near furt, I had to choose between fresh milk and

>> bier. The beer won. When I was in Turkey, the medical officer

>> smuggled in German beer marked as medical supplies. Those

>> were days when we didn't care about the protein content of beer.

>>

>>

>> On Jun 21, 2004, at 9:50 AM, beaglescout2003 wrote:

>>

>>> Interesting things about beer! Or where I am right now (Germany),

>>> bier. Beer is also incredible in bratwurst and is great in batter for

>>> fried fish (not that any of us should be eating fried fish). Beer is

>>> also great for your hair. Poor it on in the shower and it imparts a

>>> great shine. Poor it on in the sun and sit out for a while and it

>>> will lighten your hair. See, beer is so versatile!

>>> Shelby

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Not quite forty years ago while in the Air Force, I was sitting in

>>> the bar

>>>> of the Buena Vista Hotel in Astir Beach, just outside Athens. It

>>> was

>>>> between recon missions, and I was talking to our flight surgeon as

>>> we drank

>>>> Amstel and talked about alcohol in general and beer in particular.

>>> It was a

>>>> memorable conversation--especially since we didn't drink that much

>>> of it (I

>>>> had a flight in the morning.) and the subject interested me.

>>>>

>>>> My drinking bud informed me that beer was the only alcoholic

>>> beverage

>>>> classifed as a food because of the tiny amount of protein it

>>> contains. And

>>>> it is that protein that makes people who absolutely do not like

>>> beer say

>>>> " Wow! This is the best beer Ihave ever tasted! " on a very hot

>>> day. The

>>>> body, it seems depletes, then craves protein, and, sensing that

>>> little bit,

>>>> produces a rush.

>>>>

>>>> Beer is also an excellent baste for chicken when barbecueing. It's

>>> okay on

>>>> beef, but chicken does really well. And there are lots of good beer

>>>> marinades.

>>>>

>>>> For the record, I no longer drink, so I am not trying to justrify

>>> any

>>>> behavior here.

>>>>

>>>> From California where some people go from beer to beer to bier.

>>>>

>>>> Bill

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Please visit the Zapper homepage at

>>> http://www.ZapLife.org

>>>

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Ah but Mike, O’Doul’s does

have alcohol in it …around 1% I think. It would take a heck of a lot to

get that buzz!

Janet

Re: Re: Beer

Never been to Poland. What makes it better? American

beer

tends to be too carbonated for me. I like Dos

Equis dark from

Mexico, some of the Japanese beers, and German

beer, but

only in German. I think they process export beers

differently

than the ones you get in German beer gardens. I've

had beer

in Romania and I think they were less carbonated.

I've never been a committed drinker so after

getting the ICD,

I stopped completely. Once in a while I get a

non-alcoholic

brew like Odouls. You get all the bitter without

the buzz.

On Jun 21, 2004, at 10:25 PM, alamo wrote:

> Hi,

>

> I think that the best beer all over the world

we have here, in Poland

> :)

> Have you ever taste it?

>

> , Poland

>

> Re: Re: Beer

>

>

>> Bier in German, so smooth it was like

drinking milk. When I visited

>> some friends near furt, I had to

choose between fresh milk and

>> bier. The beer won. When I was in Turkey,

the medical officer

>> smuggled in German beer marked as medical

supplies. Those

>> were days when we didn't care about the

protein content of beer.

>>

>>

>> On Jun 21, 2004, at 9:50 AM,

beaglescout2003 wrote:

>>

>>> Interesting things about beer! Or

where I am right now (Germany),

>>> bier. Beer is also incredible in

bratwurst and is great in batter for

>>> fried fish (not that any of us should

be eating fried fish). Beer is

>>> also great for your hair. Poor it on

in the shower and it imparts a

>>> great shine. Poor it on in the sun

and sit out for a while and it

>>> will lighten your hair. See, beer is

so versatile!

>>> Shelby

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>> Not quite forty years ago while

in the Air Force, I was sitting in

>>> the bar

>>>> of the Buena Vista Hotel in Astir

Beach, just outside Athens. It

>>> was

>>>> between recon missions, and I was

talking to our flight surgeon as

>>> we drank

>>>> Amstel and talked about alcohol

in general and beer in particular.

>>> It was a

>>>> memorable

conversation--especially since we didn't drink that much

>>> of it (I

>>>> had a flight in the morning.) and

the subject interested me.

>>>>

>>>> My drinking bud informed me that

beer was the only alcoholic

>>> beverage

>>>> classifed as a food because of

the tiny amount of protein it

>>> contains. And

>>>> it is that protein that makes

people who absolutely do not like

>>> beer say

>>>> " Wow! This is the best

beer Ihave ever tasted! " on a very hot

>>> day. The

>>>> body, it seems depletes, then

craves protein, and, sensing that

>>> little bit,

>>>> produces a rush.

>>>>

>>>> Beer is also an excellent baste

for chicken when barbecueing. It's

>>> okay on

>>>> beef, but chicken does really

well. And there are lots of good beer

>>>> marinades.

>>>>

>>>> For the record, I no longer

drink, so I am not trying to justrify

>>> any

>>>> behavior here.

>>>>

>>>> From California where some people

go from beer to beer to bier.

>>>>

>>>> Bill

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> Please visit the Zapper homepage at

>>> http://www.ZapLife.org

>>>

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I prefer Polish beer for its taste (bitterness) of course. The consistence

is denser then e.g. German beer. If I go abroad I taste their beers, but

when I go to the market or restaurant I always buy Polish " Zywiec " or

" Tyskie " (here you can see it: http://www.kp.pl/tyskie.html). The second is

produced in the city where I work. I know that you can buy in US our beer,

because when I was in US I saw Polish beer in the market.

The most important for me is to drink a beer not from an aluminium can but

from glass. The taste is really different. I suppose that recipes of

production beer packed into small cans, bottles or kegs is a little

different and different is contents of CO2. I work in company which is a

producer of processed cheese and I know that we also have a different

recipes for cheese packing into al foil or PP box.

regards,

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> Never been to Poland. What makes it better? American beer

> tends to be too carbonated for me. I like Dos Equis dark from

> Mexico, some of the Japanese beers, and German beer, but

> only in German. I think they process export beers differently

> than the ones you get in German beer gardens. I've had beer

> in Romania and I think they were less carbonated.

>

> I've never been a committed drinker so after getting the ICD,

> I stopped completely. Once in a while I get a non-alcoholic

> brew like Odouls. You get all the bitter without the buzz.

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I have a big bottle of lasix.

On Jun 22, 2004, at 5:23 PM, Janet Stockbridge wrote:

> Ah but Mike, O’Doul’s does have alcohol in it …around 1% I think. It

> would take a heck of a lot to get that buzz!

>

> Janet

>

>  

>

> Re: Re: Beer

>

>  

>

> Never been to Poland. What makes it better? American beer

> tends to be too carbonated for me. I like Dos Equis dark from

> Mexico, some of the Japanese beers, and German beer, but

> only in German. I think they process export beers differently

> than the ones you get in German beer gardens. I've had beer

> in Romania and I think they were less carbonated.

>

> I've never been a committed drinker so after getting the ICD,

> I stopped completely. Once in a while I get a non-alcoholic

> brew like Odouls. You get all the bitter without the buzz.

>

>

> On Jun 21, 2004, at 10:25 PM, alamo wrote:

>

> > Hi,

> >

> > I think that the best beer all over the world we have here, in Poland

> > :)

> > Have you ever taste it?

> >

> > , Poland

> >

> > Re: Re: Beer

> >

> >

> >> Bier in German, so smooth it was like drinking milk. When I visited

> >> some friends near furt, I had to choose between fresh milk and

> >> bier. The beer won. When I was in Turkey, the medical officer

> >> smuggled in German beer marked as medical supplies. Those

> >> were days when we didn't care about the protein content of beer.

> >>

> >>

> >> On Jun 21, 2004, at 9:50 AM, beaglescout2003 wrote:

> >>

> >>> Interesting things about beer! Or where I am right now (Germany),

> >>> bier. Beer is also incredible in bratwurst and is great in batter

> for

> >>> fried fish (not that any of us should be eating fried fish). Beer

> is

> >>> also great for your hair. Poor it on in the shower and it imparts a

> >>> great shine. Poor it on in the sun and sit out for a while and it

> >>> will lighten your hair. See, beer is so versatile!

> >>> Shelby

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>> Not quite forty years ago while in the Air Force, I was sitting in

> >>> the bar

> >>>> of the Buena Vista Hotel in Astir Beach, just outside Athens.  It

> >>> was

> >>>> between recon missions, and I was talking to our flight surgeon as

> >>> we drank

> >>>> Amstel and talked about alcohol in general and beer in particular.

> >>> It was a

> >>>> memorable conversation--especially since we didn't drink that much

> >>> of it (I

> >>>> had a flight in the morning.) and the subject interested me.

> >>>>

> >>>> My drinking bud informed me that beer was the only alcoholic

> >>> beverage

> >>>> classifed as a food because of the tiny amount of protein it

> >>> contains.  And

> >>>> it is that protein that makes people who absolutely do not like

> >>> beer say

> >>>> " Wow!  This is the best beer Ihave ever tasted! " on a very hot

> >>> day.  The

> >>>> body, it seems depletes, then craves protein, and, sensing that

> >>> little bit,

> >>>> produces a rush.

> >>>>

> >>>> Beer is also an excellent baste for chicken when barbecueing. 

> It's

> >>> okay on

> >>>> beef, but chicken does really well.  And there are lots of good

> beer

> >>>> marinades.

> >>>>

> >>>> For the record, I no longer drink, so I am not trying to justrify

> >>> any

> >>>> behavior here.

> >>>>

> >>>> From California where some people go from beer to beer to bier.

> >>>>

> >>>> Bill

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> >>> http://www.ZapLife.org

> >>>

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In a message dated 8/20/2004 5:14:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

sharonferris@... writes:

What is BTD compliant beer?

Max's newsletter says that an occasional beer is a neutral. I don't drink

that much anyway. I only have one subscriber, me.

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Hi Max,

What is BTD compliant beer? I thought that beer was an avoid now. Not that I

always pay attention to that rule.

Regards,

Sharon (Ontario) Canada

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Have lots of BTD compliant beer

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I will subscribe to your newsletter. I only drink beer after playing baseball

and sometimes after sailing.

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sharonferris@... writes:

What is BTD compliant beer?

Max's newsletter says that an occasional beer is a neutral. I don't drink

that much anyway. I only have one subscriber, me.

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Beer has more food value than cows milk!!!!!!!!!!! See www.milksucks.com and

learn more

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Sharon Ferris <sharonferris@...> wrote:

I will subscribe to your newsletter. I only drink beer after playing baseball

and sometimes after sailing.

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In a message dated 8/20/2004 5:14:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

sharonferris@... writes:

What is BTD compliant beer?

Max's newsletter says that an occasional beer is a neutral. I don't drink

that much anyway. I only have one subscriber, me.

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Jenn, I agree with you. This was the impression I got.

Also I would liek to make something clear to everyone. I never said he did drink

every day. I pointed out that the nutritionsist said he could do that. He

usually only drinks on weekends with his friends. He hasn't even been drinking

the 14, maybe 10 to 12 a week.

Also if you read closely, i said he does do water some. He does not like

flavored water though. He does do sugarfree lemonade, he does decaf tea......i

never said he drinks beer every day as a liquid " staple " , and further

more.....ever hear of light beer?

Why is it that " some " of you feel the need to basically put me down for bringing

up things that i know. it isn't that i am making them up, or jsut going on what

he says, i have been to the clinic personally and heard them with my own

ears....Also for those of you putting down the two beers a day, in my nutrition

class in college, it was even in the book that it takes an average of over two

beers a day before you gain any weight. And you know what, that is less that

some pastas and bread products!

I didn't come to this group to be put down. I came to get answers to questions,

and support in these struggles and situations i am going through. I can say so

far, there are only a few that I would say have even tried to help me in an open

minded way, not just with this whole beer issue, but with my other

questions.....you know who you are, and thanks for it.

Jenn Malatesta <nekrosys@...> wrote:

OK. What did you mean by this?!

" BEER?!?!?! NOT!!!!!!!!! Honestly, . I'd be looking for someone else! "

It sure came off like you you thought she should dump him because he

drank beer regularly.

And besides I was replying to *everybody* that suggested drinking 2

beers a day made someone an alcoholic (and there were many). I've

personally known people that have masked psychological pain with

alcohol. They wouldn't even bother with two beers, they'd go straight

to the whiskey or vodka.

And how am I being hypocritical when I said flat out that *I* drink beer

*too*!?

Jenn

Angie wrote:

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>Besides, what works for you may not work for everyone. I trust 's b/f

>will make his own mind up based on whatever he finds valuable not simply

>based on enablers.

>

>

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Thanks. I really was getting annoyed because I felt like people were

focusing too much on what your boyfriend is supposedly, in their

opinion, doing " wrong. " Losing weight with a disability is *hard*!

There is such a fine line between getting too many and too little

calories. Our metabolisms are slower because we aren't out running

around. And I know that if I try to " work out " by lifting weights or

something, that I pretty much can count on not being able to move my

arms for the rest of the day because my muscles act like I've burnt up

my " daily movement quotient. "

I've been roughly following Weight Watchers over the past 3 years or

so, It seems to set pretty realistic goals for cutting calories and fat

because the amounts are based on your starting body weight. I try to

not eat too many fried foods. If my family gets fried chicken, I peel

off all the breading and just eat the white meat inside. Fiber helps

because not only does it help you feel full, your body expends energy to

digest it. I drink a Kashi Go Lean shake every day for my lunch. It is

packed with fiber. The kind I get is for women, but I believe they have

a shake for men too. I try to limit sugary desserts but, even though I

usually stay in my " point range " for the day, I'm not very good at

this. :) I think it also helps to not eat late at night, but I don't

often do this anyway, so it's hard for me to tel if there is a

difference. The big thing for me was still being able to eat and drink

some things I like. If I had to go to eatting things like only carrots

and lettuce, I would not have lastest on this diet for three days! And

as you mentioned, there are light options for beer and plenty of other

things. I try to pick those options whenever I can. I know I'd have a

much easier time if I would be able to drink plenty of water a day too,

but I don't have the luxury of having anyone around during the day to

help me when the fluid makes its way through my body to my bladder! :)

I hope some of that helps with ideas or whatever.

Jenn

D. Hampsten wrote:

>Jenn, I agree with you. This was the impression I got.

>

>Also I would liek to make something clear to everyone. I never said he did

drink every day. I pointed out that the nutritionsist said he could do that. He

usually only drinks on weekends with his friends. He hasn't even been drinking

the 14, maybe 10 to 12 a week.

>

>Also if you read closely, i said he does do water some. He does not like

flavored water though. He does do sugarfree lemonade, he does decaf tea......i

never said he drinks beer every day as a liquid " staple " , and further

more.....ever hear of light beer?

>

>Why is it that " some " of you feel the need to basically put me down for

bringing up things that i know. it isn't that i am making them up, or jsut going

on what he says, i have been to the clinic personally and heard them with my own

ears....Also for those of you putting down the two beers a day, in my nutrition

class in college, it was even in the book that it takes an average of over two

beers a day before you gain any weight. And you know what, that is less that

some pastas and bread products!

>

>I didn't come to this group to be put down. I came to get answers to questions,

and support in these struggles and situations i am going through. I can say so

far, there are only a few that I would say have even tried to help me in an open

minded way, not just with this whole beer issue, but with my other

questions.....you know who you are, and thanks for it.

>

>Jenn Malatesta <nekrosys@...> wrote:

>OK. What did you mean by this?!

>

> " BEER?!?!?! NOT!!!!!!!!! Honestly, . I'd be looking for someone else! "

>

>It sure came off like you you thought she should dump him because he

>drank beer regularly.

>

>And besides I was replying to *everybody* that suggested drinking 2

>beers a day made someone an alcoholic (and there were many). I've

>personally known people that have masked psychological pain with

>alcohol. They wouldn't even bother with two beers, they'd go straight

>to the whiskey or vodka.

>

>And how am I being hypocritical when I said flat out that *I* drink beer

>*too*!?

>

>Jenn

>

>

>

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On the lighter side of things...one of my favorite

bar/tavern signs at Miami University in Oxford, OH...

In Heaven, there is NO Beer

So, we'd better drink it here!

Mitch

--- Angie <angie@...> wrote:

> Okay, everyone. Please be honest and let me know,

> privately or publicly if

> this is the culprit posting that landed me in HOT

> WATER?

>

> ****************posted Monday,

> 08-22-05******************

>

> BEER?!?!?! NOT!!!!!!!!!

>

> Honestly, . I'd be looking for someone else!

>

> I am by no means " picture perfect " when it comes to

> eating/drinking properly,

> but all that " crap " has got to go! You won't see

> " brown/green " bottles in my

> household. 14 beers a week is 14 too many.

>

> Don't allow anyone too sugar coat it.

>

> Seriously, it will be 100% his decision whether he

> keeps doing what he is

> doing now, but it will be a longer, harder journey

> to travel if he keeps

> doing things this way.

>

> As for the YMCA, yank their chain HARD! They are for

> the general public use

> and you live in the general public, so .... kick em

> hard! Besides, they know

> how to drum up funds all you got to do is make

> noise!

>

> Angie

>

> On 2005.08.21 22:48, D. Hampsten wrote:

> > I think alot of it with the nutritionist was the

> fact that when he was

> > there the last time he was drinking several cans

> of regular soda a day. She

> > also was impressed that he cut down on his beer

> some. he said that an

> > average of two cans per day is fine to drink, or

> if he wanted to he could

> > save it and drink on weekends, however he wanted,

> just to stay aorund 14

> > beers a week. he also told him it was okay to

> drink tea. He does try to

> > drink sugar free lemonade and things like that

> when it is hot. He drinks a

> > lot of water too. He eats a lot of vegtables, and

> doen't eat out much and

> > when he does he is good about what he eats. He

> can't get into a pool, the

> > YMCA here has an indoor pool, but no transfer

> teirs. He misses his water.

> >

> > TAMMY HASKELL <tammylinne@...> wrote:They

> add more salt in diet sodas

> > to make you want to drink more, it also causes you

> to eat more. Even if

> > your eating the right foods you can still gain

> weight if you not eating the

> > right portions. I really don't understand what

> that nutritionist was

> > thinking either. If he has any way of getting into

> a swimming pool it could

> > also help with weight and strengthening. Tammy

> >

> > Angie <angie@...> wrote:

> > Hi ,

> >

> > I am glad to see I didn't offend you and that your

> b/f wishes to lose some

> > weight. What I find amazing is that your

> nutritionist found nothing wrong

> > with what he is eating ... especially since you

> made a clear point of his

> > drinking diet soda (regardless of name brand). Cut

> that right out! Switch

> > to more clear fluids and bottled juices (I was

> told frozen wasn't as good

> > as the bottled or canned juices ... still waiting

> to find out why).

> >

> > Cut back on some carbs (turn white bread to whole

> wheat) and eat more

> > veggies, fruits and yogurts plus cut back on

> second servings.

> >

> > Plus, don't eat past 8PM, drink is okay, just not

> food.

> >

> > I am still shaking my head over that nutritionist

> .... wow, weird!

> >

> > Angie

> >

> > On 2005.08.21 12:54, D. Hampsten wrote:

> > > Yes it is under the sheets. He doesn't get

> lifted into bed. He still

> > > scoots himself into bed and so as he scoots so

> does the topper. We tried

> > > using the mattress sheet grips to hold it place,

> but it still slid. We

> > > tried the shelf paper, and it still slid.

> Nothing seems to hold it in

> > > place.

> > >

> > > He does want to lose weight, but can't seem to

> do it. He watches what he

> > > eats, and doesn't really overeat. He drinks diet

> soda. He isn't sure what

> > > to do. He is on a water pill some to help get

> rid of any extra fluid that

> > > is adding weight.

> > >

> > > Any ideas on what else he needs to do? He

> discussed it with the

> > > nutritionist at the clinic and she said that she

> doesn't see that he is

> > > doing anything wrong in his eating patterns. She

> also felt that unless he

> > > continues to gain, not maintain where he is now,

> then there is not much

> > > need to worry unless his other health begins to

> be affected and as of now

> > > he is perfectly healthy other than his MD.

> > >

> > > Angie <angie@...> wrote:

> > > ,

> > >

> > > This may sound silly, but are you placing the

> " topper " under the sheets?

> > > I do and I twist atop of it when getting lifted

> in and out my bed and it

> > > doesn't budge.

> > >

> > > I have an overweight sister, who I adore, so

> please don't take this the

> > > wrong way ... knowing my husband is 6.4 1/2 "

> tall and weighs 205lbs, i

> > > have wondered whether your b/f might want to

> lose some weight, maybe

> > > weigh in around 225lbs for his height just to

> eliminate the weight factor

> > > as a possible culprit to his sleeping

> discomfort.

> > >

> > > I hope I didn't offend you or sound like a

> criticizing mother....wink!

> > >

> > > Angie

> > >

> > > On 2005.08.21 03:14, D. Hampsten wrote:

> > > > We have found one memory foam mattress that is

> 12 inches thick. It has

> > > > either 3 or 4 inches of the good heavy weight

> memory foam they

> > > > sometimes call NASA foam, then 8 or 9 inches

> of the lighter weight

> > > > memory foam. We tried a 1 inch topper, but

> topppers slide around too

> > > > much when he transfers to bed, and also when

> we roll him.

> > > >

> > > > Angie <angie@...> wrote:My husband

> and i have a queen sized

> > > > Ultramatic (Canadian equivalent to your

> Ultramatic bed). My side has a

> > > > 2 " inch Novafoam mattress topper. I weigh

> approx 100lbs (maybe 95lbs)

> > > > and I added a one inch tempra foam (pink in

> colour) about 16 " wide that

> > > > lays beneath my talibone hip area because I

> too lay like a log on my

> > > > back, so it's a high risk area for pressure

> sores! (knock on wood, none

> > > > so far!) I started the topper idea because of

> my minor weight loss and

> > > > I was told my hubby that my butt/tailbone area

> was getting

> > > > pink....that's an early warning flag!

> > > >

> > > > Your b/f friend may need a higher

> density/thickness for his mattress

> > > > topper, so you may need a custom made one.

> Tempra foam aka Memory foam

> > > > is good, but I bet you won't find what he

> needs in any retail outlet.

> > > > Find some help at your nearest MD clinic or

> grab an Occupational

> > > > Therapist, they should be able to lead you

> some suppliers and funding

> > > > sources.

> > > >

> > > > In Canada, that's what we do.

> > > >

> > > > Angie

> > > >

> > > > On 2005.08.20 00:01, D. Hampsten wrote:

>

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Toni,

Only if you make your own....and quality control the ingredients.

Most of those articles refer to how beer once was. And, a treat never

hurt anyone....moderation in all things.

That's the issue, right?! ;-)

Kit

> Morning All,

>

> I just got an issue of Natural Health in the mail and opened it

up and behold there is an article : 3 Cheers for beer go ahead have a

cold one - it;s good for you.

>

> hehe..just had to share that little discovery of mine.

>

> Cheers to a beautiful day!

> Tone

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How are you? How is little Oreo doing?

I have no idea. One day I swear he's ready to take his last breath, and the next day he wants to eat something and go outside. I have been in turmoil over what to do and go back and forth. I guess I'll just keep hanging in there. I'm going to see if I can get in to see the vet tomorrow.

Like I said I love beer this is why I decided not to drink it :) Perhaps if I can someday learn moderation then I can enjoy one again.

If you have to "learn" moderation, I'd say you have an addiction. People who aren't addicted don't have to discipline themselves to stop after they've had a beer or two. They just don't have another one because they really don't want it and don't give any thought to it. So maybe it's better for you not to drink it at all and just forget about learning to control the quantity. Make sense??? ;-)

Gloria

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Sounds like that kitty has one strong constitution and wants to hang around. Hang in there. I believe that all things are possible...

Thanks Toni. I really gave up all hope Saturday. I went to work and I was such a basketcase and crying so hard they sent me home early. Then he had a second wind that night and perked up a little. I'm sure he's used up at least 6 of his proverbial nine lives. What a challenge this has been! If I put this much determination and perseverance into everything I do, I'd be a millionaire by now. Guaranteed!

Gloria

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I used to be able to drink wine with no problem. Then several years ago the FDA in its infinite wisdom mandated that all wine made in the US or imported into the US *must* have sulphites added (for some reason or another; I have no idea why since sulphites occur naturally in wine). Now any wine I drink in the US gives me an immediate migraine.

OTOH, I just spent almost three weeks in Britain (toured England and Scotland) and had wonderful lunches every day at local inns or pubs with wine at every lunch. Just the cheap wine served by the glass that was on the menu. Not one headache!

Sharyn

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Hello Rod my name is Tyler i Live i'm an Emt living in Canada i was

wondering what company you work for and if you could send me some

information. I'm interseted in working abroad somewhere but i havn't really

found any companies from Canada that employ medics overseas so if you could

get back to me that would be awesome.

Thanks

Tyler

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>Just to lighten things up a bit, Cliff Clavin's view on beer:

>

> " Well ya see, Norm, it's like this... A herd of buffalo can only move as

>fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest

>and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection

>is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of

>the

>whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.

>In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the

>slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain

>cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first.

>In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells,

>making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always

>feel smarter after a few beers. "

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No, I can not handle beer. Never have been able to. Hard liquor doesn't

seem to bother me though.

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Debra <mermaideeee@...> wrote:

> So have you been able to handle beer? I've seen it listed as a Neutral

> and

> an Avoid. Does cooking kill the harmful aspects of wheat?

>

>

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Cooking does not kill the harmfulness of wheat. I think, sprouting it is

the only way to help it.

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Debra <mermaideeee@...> wrote:

> So have you been able to handle beer? I've seen it listed as a Neutral

> and

> an Avoid. Does cooking kill the harmful aspects of wheat?

>

>

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> The only thing that will kill the harmful aspects of wheat is natural

> fermentation. This neutralizes anti- nutrients like gluten.

>

> My wife is blood type O and usually became very sick every time she ate

> bread, beer, etc. Back when we were both naive enough to believe that

> their was actually sound science implied as the basis of the blood type

> diet, we just assumed it must have been bad lectins. After reading a

> related article on the Westin Price Foundation's website, my wife found

> naturally fermented organic wheat bread from Celtic Sea Salt's website.

> Instead of making her sick, she claims to feel really good after eating

> their wheat bread.

>

> I imagine someone has also figured a way to naturally ferment wheat

> beer as well.

>

> >RE: Does cooking kill the harmful aspects of wheat?

>

yeah, I think the blood type lectin thing is out the window. I notice

that even D'adamo is distancing himself from that part of the theory

in his later books.

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> The only thing that will kill the harmful aspects of wheat is natural

> fermentation. This neutralizes anti- nutrients like gluten.

>

> My wife is blood type O and usually became very sick every time she ate

> bread, beer, etc. Back when we were both naive enough to believe that

> their was actually sound science implied as the basis of the blood type

> diet, we just assumed it must have been bad lectins. After reading a

> related article on the Westin Price Foundation's website, my wife found

> naturally fermented organic wheat bread from Celtic Sea Salt's website.

> Instead of making her sick, she claims to feel really good after eating

> their wheat bread.

>

> I imagine someone has also figured a way to naturally ferment wheat

> beer as well.

>

> >RE: Does cooking kill the harmful aspects of wheat?

is this the bread you are talking about?

http://www.celticseasalt.com/Natural_Bridge_Bread_W65C15.cfm

they don't have the price online.. do you mind if I ask how much you

paid for it?

I love the celtic sea salt.. just noticed I'm getting low.. think I

will order some more.

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Here's an interesting study of gluten content in beer. It's in Swedish, but you

can still read the names and numbers in the chart. Corona has less than 20 ppm.

I occasionally have a Corona, and have never had a reaction.

http://www.slv.se/upload/dokument/risker/allergi/0510_WEBsorttillverkare.pdf

Lori

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out over it. "

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I have a friend who has the occasional Corona too, with no

reaction. I’m still WAY too chicken to try it…

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Fiesta Cranberry

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2:29 PM

celiac

Subject: [ ] beer

Here's an

interesting study of gluten content in beer. It's in Swedish, but you can still

read the names and numbers in the chart. Corona

has less than 20 ppm. I occasionally have a Corona, and have never had a reaction.

http://www.slv.se/upload/dokument/risker/allergi/0510_WEBsorttillverkare.pdf

Lori

" I wrestled with reality for 36 years, and I'm happy to say that I finally

won out over it. "

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