soy sauce

[Guest guest]

Heidi wrote:

>I use Bragg's Aminos ... they are made from soy,

>but are broken down so much I don't think it's

>an issue.

I looked at Bragg's Aminos, but didn't buy it because (if I recall correctly)

it said it wasn't fermented. Is there something I'm missing?

~~ Jocelyne

[Guest guest]

>I looked at Bragg's Aminos, but didn't buy it because (if I recall correctly)

>it said it wasn't fermented. Is there something I'm missing?

>

>~~ Jocelyne

I don't know how they are processed, but basically they break down

the soy into it's component amino acids, so it is " pre-digested " . I'd

guess they use enzymes ... if they used bacteria it would be fermented.

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

Hi Irene,

Nothing made of soy is recommended on this program. Soy is bad! I

believe soy sauce is also fermented...anything fermented is not

recommended either.

See the article, " Soy, More Poisons In It " in the files (scroll down

near the very bottom of the list). Also check out other articles on

Dr. Mercola's website and the Weston Price site.

jackie

>

> I am assuming that Soy sauce is not allowed although it does not

> specifically appear on the " no-no's " list. I have been occasionally

using

> an organic wheat free tamari and I am wondering how important it is to

> eliminate it completely. I personally don't need it, but it might be

useful

> when I put my whole family on the diet. Which by the way, just

seeing the

> improvement in me in only 2 months on the diet (and not completely

there as

> far as supplements and ratios etc.), my husband is a believer.

> Thanks,

> Irene

>

[Guest guest]

Uh-OH, I thought that if it is fermented OUTSIDE the body it is OK as in

rejuvelac, am I wrong? i have had problems getting to the files on my 'puter.

Seems that IU can get a list of all the info. and then downloaded 45 pages to

follow and read and learned from them, but I have yet to be able to find the

files for say " recipes " or " good and bad food " or enemas " and so forth. there

must be a secret that I am just not getting. I have a slow dial up and I wait

to see if the page just doesn't load all the way, but so fsr, no luck. Any

ideas???

Yensen

Hi,

Nothing made of soy is recommended on this program. Soy is bad! I

believe soy sauce is also fermented...anything fermented is not

recommended either.

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Hi ,

>

> Uh-OH, I thought that if it is fermented OUTSIDE the body it is OK

as in rejuvelac, am I wrong?

Rejuvelac is considered to be a " lacto-fermented " drink. Which is ok

on this program. The same goes for sauerkraut and kimchi. These items

aid the digestion and the rejuvelac is a probiotic as well.

what I was referring to is soy sauce or the like... which are

completely different.

> i have had problems getting to the files on my 'puter. Seems that

>IU can get a list of all the info. and then downloaded 45 pages to

>follow and read and learned from them, but I have yet to be able to

>find the files for say " recipes " or " good and bad food " or enemas "

and >so forth. there must be a secret that I am just not getting.

theres's no secret to it although there is a LOT of information which

might be slow to load on a dial-up connection (you might try going to

your nearest library and using their computer if they have a faster

connection).

Beyond that, make sure you're goign to the right place. The files are

located at our group site...once there you just click on the the link

for the " Files " that is in the lefthand menu.

Group web address is;

/

I hope that clarifies things.

jackie

[Guest guest]

I am very familiar with Weston Price and Mercola. I am a Weston Price

chapter leader. Fermented soy is fine in the Weston Price philosophy (and

Mercola as well) because the antinutrients are diminished in the

fermentation process. It is unfermented soy (and GMO) that is the problem.

What I don't know is if it feeds candida or if it is problematic in other ways.

Irene

At 02:15 PM 11/4/2007, you wrote:

>Hi Irene,

>

>Nothing made of soy is recommended on this program. Soy is bad! I

>believe soy sauce is also fermented...anything fermented is not

>recommended either.

>

>See the article, " Soy, More Poisons In It " in the files (scroll down

>near the very bottom of the list). Also check out other articles on

>Dr. Mercola's website and the Weston Price site.

>

>jackie

>

>

> >

> > I am assuming that Soy sauce is not allowed although it does not

> > specifically appear on the " no-no's " list. I have been occasionally

>using

> > an organic wheat free tamari and I am wondering how important it is to

> > eliminate it completely. I personally don't need it, but it might be

>useful

> > when I put my whole family on the diet. Which by the way, just

>seeing the

> > improvement in me in only 2 months on the diet (and not completely

>there as

> > far as supplements and ratios etc.), my husband is a believer.

> > Thanks,

> > Irene

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I am pretty sure that is the difference between Tamari and regular

soy sauce in that Tamari is long fermented. Not positive though.

==>Yes that is true.

> Been a while since I looked into it. I know what you mean about the

soy industry. For myself, I don't need the stuff. The only reason I

ask because a recipe came up on my kid's nutrition list that looked

like a good one to help kids eat veggies and it involved soy sauce. I

think it might help in transitioning my 5 year old, who doesn't like

veggies to the diet and I don't want to start something that I will

have to take away later.

==>Homemade condiments are great for adding flavour to veggies, which

need to be eaten with plenty of good fats - see our Recipe Folder

for " condiments " . Ensure your youngster has a high good fats and

protein (meats, eggs, etc.) diet (80% fat to 20% meats), along with

cod liver oil, which is totally healthy without eating any veggies.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Fats and protein aren't a problem. He has even started eating butter off

the spoon and we take cod liver oil and butter oil every night at

dinner. He loves hamburger, chicken and chili. We are working on eggs. But

his carbs right now come from rice noodles, fruit and oatmeal. Before I

remove those from his diet, I want to be sure I have something else in

place that he likes. I will look at the condiments folder and see.

thanks,

Irene

At 08:32 AM 11/6/2007, you wrote:

>

> >

> > I am pretty sure that is the difference between Tamari and regular

>soy sauce in that Tamari is long fermented. Not positive though.

>

>==>Yes that is true.

>

> > Been a while since I looked into it. I know what you mean about the

>soy industry. For myself, I don't need the stuff. The only reason I

>ask because a recipe came up on my kid's nutrition list that looked

>like a good one to help kids eat veggies and it involved soy sauce. I

>think it might help in transitioning my 5 year old, who doesn't like

>veggies to the diet and I don't want to start something that I will

>have to take away later.

>

>==>Homemade condiments are great for adding flavour to veggies, which

>need to be eaten with plenty of good fats - see our Recipe Folder

>for " condiments " . Ensure your youngster has a high good fats and

>protein (meats, eggs, etc.) diet (80% fat to 20% meats), along with

>cod liver oil, which is totally healthy without eating any veggies.

>

>Bee

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Is there a special name or brand for naturally fermented soy sauce?

>

> Is that kind, acceptable to WAPF, o.k. on GAPS or BED or SCD?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Sanj

>

Soy is not allowed on GAPS. I'm pretty sure it is not allowed on SCD.

WAPF lists Ohsawa Nama Shoya sauce and South River soy sauce in their

buying guide.

I don't know about BED.

[Guest guest]

Here's another interesting article, this time about soy sauce:

http://www.soya.be/gluten-free-soy-sauce.php

I have noticed I do not have a reaction to small amounts of soy sauce.

Lori

" I wrestled with reality for 36 years, and I'm happy to say that I finally won

out over it. "

                                                                                \

         ---Elwood P. Dowd

[Guest guest]

How do you define raw in terms of a soy sauce?

H.

My family & I eat primarily raw

foods. We use Braggs (very little if you are substituting for Nama

Shoyu), or better yet, what we REALLY love is Raw Coconut Aminos by Coconut

Secret. We get it at the WF on 4th in SF. Tastes the

closest to *actual* soy sauce as

you can get and still be raw. 100% GF.

-----Original Message-----

From: Lillyth Denaghy Keogh-Quillan <lillythdenaghykeogh@...>

Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 10:05 pm

Subject: RE: [ ] Noma Shoyu

Louise,

It is absolutely NOT gluten free.

My family & I eat primarily raw

foods. We use Braggs (very little if you are substituting for Nama

Shoyu), or better yet, what we REALLY love is Raw Coconut Aminos by Coconut

Secret. We get it at the WF on 4th in SF. Tastes the

closest to *actual* soy sauce as

you can get and still be raw. 100% GF.

If you would like any tips, recipes or

anything else raw, feel free to email me off list (or look me up on FB).

Lillyth Keogh

Mommymacgyver at Comcast dot net

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Louise Audell

Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 8:00

PM

Celiac Bay Area

Subject: [ ] Noma

Shoyu

Hi:

I'm looking into starting some raw foods recipes, but don't know what some of

the items are. I've looked up Noma Shoyu, and found it's a raw foods "soy

sauce". But, does anyone know if this product is usually gluten-free?

Louise