flax seeds

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/15/05 6:55:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

leonardleonard1@... writes:

> In reading the book last night on Budwig, it said that if

> the seeds are not > ground and used fresh, like within 10 to 15

> minutes, they actually have a >deterious effect

> >> Would freezing them change that?

> I doubt it. I believe it's safe to freeze flax oil, and in

> general, freezing usually does little or no damage to food.

>

Would it then be best to freeze the flax seeds and then grind them just

before eating?

[Guest guest]

From: <szukipoo@...>

> In a message dated 3/15/05 1:17:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> donnadbd777@... writes:

>

> > In reading the book last night on Budwig, it said that if

the seeds are not > ground and used fresh, like within 10 to 15

minutes, they actually have a >deterious effect

>

>

> Would freezing them change that?

I doubt it. I believe it's safe to freeze flax oil, and in

general, freezing usually does little or no damage to food.

[Guest guest]

szukipoo@a... wrote:

> Would it then be best to freeze the flax seeds and then grind them

just before eating?

>

You can freeze flaxseeds, although it isn't necessay.

They keep very well in the fridge because the oil inside

them is protected by the seed's hard shell. Once you grind the

seeds and their shells are broken, then the oil is exposed

to the air and that is when the ground seeds and their oil

need to be eaten within 10 minutes or so. That way the oil's

best value for your body's cells does not deteriorate in it's

effectiveness. It's the same idea as keeping flax oil in the

fridge and not exposing it to air or light.

Annie

[Guest guest]

Hello

I was reading these statements and don't really have much

to add except, whatever you freeze don't freeze it in plastic

especially foods, because freezing in plastic the plastics emits

poison, if possible use Pyrex glass.

Best Regards, Earl

-----Original Message-----

From: Leonard [mailto:leonardleonard1@...]

I believe it's safe to freeze flax oil, and in

general, freezing usually does little or no damage to food.

[Guest guest]

Flax seed must be thoroughly ground to be of benefit. A burr coffee grinder

is best. Any unconsumed ground flax should be disposed of or refrigerated

as it starts to destabilize almost immediately. I consume no more than 1/4

fresh-ground flax daily. You'll see from the notation below that there are

some compounds in the outer seed (cyanide stuff) that builds up in your

system. Flax seed has not done much for me in terms of what ails me, but

maybe if I hadn't started taking it in November of 2003, I'd be worse off

now. It does tend to lower your guts ability to disperse fats into the

blood stream. My bowels work much better with this stuff--best fiber going

imho. I highly recommend flax seed.

JoyceB

http://www.nutritionfocus.com/nutrition_supplementation/fatty_acids/Flax_See

d_Oil.html#10

WARNING

Leaves and the seed chaff of Linum usitatissimum contain linamarin (a

cyanogenic glycoside) that liberates cyanide upon hydrolysis with linamarase

(enzyme also present). Linamarin, a cyanogenic glycoside yields hydrocyanic

acid (prussic acid) upon hydrolysis. In low doses, hydrocyanic acid (HCN)

may cause dizziness, headache, nausea, and vomiting. If cyanides overwhelm

the body's natural detoxification mechanisms they can stop cellular

respiration by inhibiting cytochrome oxidase, carbonic anhydrase and other

enzyme systems resulting in acute cyanide poisoning characterized by:

hyperventilation, headache, nausea, vomiting, collapse, coma, convulsions,

respiratory failure, and death. Subacute symptoms with nonlethal doses

include: choking feeling, anxiety, dizziness, confusion, headache,

incontinence, rapid, weak and irregular pulse.

-----Original Message-----

From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On

Behalf Of Tina

Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 7:27 PM

gallstones

Subject: Flax seeds

Today I bought some flax seeds. I've heard they are

really good to take, but I'm wondering how much should

I take? I was considering adding them to my morning

smoothie, but I'm wondering how much would be a good

amount to consume?

Tina

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

> I

> consume no more than 1/4

> fresh-ground flax daily.

1/4 of what? teaspoon, tablespoon, pound or

kilogramme?

Tina

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

You're not supposed to grind more than a small quantity as it spoils

quickly, therefore I too, only grind about 1/4 - 1/2 cup at a time.

It's suggested to refrigerate or freeze the ground flax seed. I eat

about 2 tablespoons of ground flax per day. I also recommend flax seed

oil which is more highly concentrated of EFA's. I take both the ground

seeds and the oil daily. At first, though the oil was hard for me to

digest, so if your digestion isn't ready for it yet, start with the

ground flax.

Namaste,

[Guest guest]

Heheh--oops--1/4 cup

I read it from a different source that about 1/4 cup is all you should have

daily. Can't find the source.

-----Original Message-----

From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On

Behalf Of Tina

Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:10 PM

gallstones

Subject: RE: Flax seeds

> I

> consume no more than 1/4

> fresh-ground flax daily.

1/4 of what? teaspoon, tablespoon, pound or

kilogramme?

Tina

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

> Flax seed must be thoroughly ground to be of

> benefit.

I have a Vita-Mix. Will it not work to just add it to

my morning smoothie?

Tina

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

The problem with flax is that any seeds that remain unground will simply

pass through with NO benefit to you at all. Grinding flax with a vita mix

prior to adding smoothie ingredients heats the seed as it whacks it around

and breaks it up. A burr grinder is recommended for flax seed because it

crushes it with minimal heating of the seed. Heating the seed degrades the

benefit, so I never use my vita mix on it. (My burr grinder cost me about

26 bucks at Target.) It is important to allow the ground seed to sit in

liquid for a few minutes to establish the mucilage. Mucilage helps stuff

move through (and helps clean) your innards.

-----Original Message-----

From: gallstones [mailto:gallstones ] On

Behalf Of Tina

Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 10:44 PM

gallstones

Subject: RE: Flax seeds

> Flax seed must be thoroughly ground to be of

> benefit.

I have a Vita-Mix. Will it not work to just add it to

my morning smoothie?

Tina

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Tina ...a Vitamix is the best way to take whole flax seeds imo...IF you soak

them overnight in rougly double volume of filtered water with a bit of celtic

salt .

As someone pointed out in a previous post Flaxseeds have toxic compounds (as

do most raw nuts/seeds for that matter) , flax are one of the worst though..by

soaking any nut /seed for 12 -24 hours before using , you begin the germination

process which in turn reduces many/most of the problem compounds .(Seeds have

these compounds originally as natural chemical deterents to birds etc to stop

them eating them.)

I place my 14 cup or whatever amount of soaked Flaxseed in Vitamix jug with

large chunk raw ginger /raw garlic , 3/4 teaspoon guar gum to ensure mixes

smoothly without splashing all around blender cap, 2 whole scubbed lemons cut

up, and any off or all off the following (+whatever else you want),..slippery

elm powder /hi mineral volcanicash,clay/cinammon/pectin/Kelp powder & etc.

Not only is soaked flaxseed more digestable due to beginning germination, but

mixing in Vitamix with cold water only reguires a short period ...this applies a

lot less heat at a molecular level than a mechanical (dry) seed /coffee bean

grinder , which creates high friction /heat in the process of grinding...also

your flaxseeds are never exposed to air once they have been blended ..they are

immersed in liquid solution before being ground/blended so cannot be oxidized

unlike dry ground flaxseeds (which are very unstable & rapidly oxidized).

As for storing flaxseeds after they are ground ..I wouldnt recommend it for

obvious reasons..fwiw

Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:47 -0700 (PDT)

From: Tina <frinh96221@...>

Subject: RE: Flax seeds

> Flax seed must be thoroughly ground to be of

> benefit.

I have a Vita-Mix. Will it not work to just add it to

my morning smoothie?

Tina

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately I read digest mode so i see most emails 24-48 hours after they

are sent & I just saw Joyces( I think) email where she indicates Vitamix

dosent blend flaxseeds properly...So I will add that once u experiment ( & the

teaspoon or so off guar gum is a neccessary part of this)..you will find the

flax seeds blend perfectly smooth & there is no residue in the

lemon/ginger/flax/guar (optional garlic etc) mix...guar gum thickens & allows

the mix to blend perfectly smooth (once your expirementing finds ideal levels of

liquid & how fast too add etc)...also I dont agree with the warning on flax

getting overheated in Vitamix (as is obvious from earlier email )..but hey

different opinions are ok right...I know the Vitamix can be used to make hot

soup by just blending at hi speed for long enough (depending on volume ) ...but

the (large)amount of cold solution I blend does not even get time too get the

slightest bit warm (use water /liquid from fridge overnight if overly concerned

on this point & that should totally remove concerns here )...dry grinding of

seeds (in seed/coffee grinders etc) requires frictional forces to work

...friction generates heat..you cannot grind or blend seeds, wet or dry

(properly)without some heat being generated ..that is basic physics..no energy

can be expended without heat ... & energy is being expended on the flax seeds,

...(I believe though heat generated in a cold liquid mix (with no air/Oxygen)..is

less than that in the dry seed grinder with Oxygen present)...

However with practice, & intelligent operation with whatever tool you use

(Vitamix or dry grinder),will minimize the heat ( & oxidation) generated during

the process imo..(Sorry there may well have been more emails on this subject as

I write ..but i wont see them for 24 hours so forgive me if I am behind).

18

Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:33:01 +1000

From: " O " <beeline@...>

Subject: RE: Flax seeds

Tina ...a Vitamix is the best way to take whole flax seeds imo...IF you soak

them overnight in rougly double volume of filtered water with a bit of celtic

salt .

As someone pointed out in a previous post Flaxseeds have toxic compounds (as

do most raw nuts/seeds for that matter) , flax are one of the worst though..by

soaking any nut /seed for 12 -24 hours before using , you begin the germination

process which in turn reduces many/most of the problem compounds .(Seeds have

these compounds originally as natural chemical deterents to birds etc to stop

them eating them.)

I place my 14 cup or whatever amount of soaked Flaxseed in Vitamix jug with

large chunk raw ginger /raw garlic , 3/4 teaspoon guar gum to ensure mixes

smoothly without splashing all around blender cap, 2 whole scubbed lemons cut

up, and any off or all off the following (+whatever else you want),..slippery

elm powder /hi mineral volcanicash,clay/cinammon/pectin/Kelp powder & etc.

Not only is soaked flaxseed more digestable due to beginning germination, but

mixing in Vitamix with cold water only reguires a short period ...this applies a

lot less heat at a molecular level than a mechanical (dry) seed /coffee bean

grinder , which creates high friction /heat in the process of grinding...also

your flaxseeds are never exposed to air once they have been blended ..they are

immersed in liquid solution before being ground/blended so cannot be oxidized

unlike dry ground flaxseeds (which are very unstable & rapidly oxidized).

As for storing flaxseeds after they are ground ..I wouldnt recommend it for

obvious reasons..fwiw

Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:47 -0700 (PDT)

From: Tina <frinh96221@...>

Subject: RE: Flax seeds

> Flax seed must be thoroughly ground to be of

> benefit.

I have a Vita-Mix. Will it not work to just add it to

my morning smoothie?

Tina

[Guest guest]

--- O <beeline@...> wrote:

& I just saw

> Joyces( I think) email where she indicates Vitamix

> dosent blend flaxseeds properly...So I will add that

> once u experiment ( & the teaspoon or so off guar gum

> is a neccessary part of this)..you will find the

> flax seeds blend perfectly smooth Guar gum?

and what if you eat right for your blood type and

you're blood type B, you can't have guar gum and what

do you do then?

--- O <beeline@...> wrote:

>

> Unfortunately I read digest mode so i see most

> emails 24-48 hours after they are sent & I just saw

> Joyces( I think) email where she indicates Vitamix

> dosent blend flaxseeds properly...So I will add that

> once u experiment ( & the teaspoon or so off guar gum

> is a neccessary part of this)..you will find the

> flax seeds blend perfectly smooth & there is no

> residue in the lemon/ginger/flax/guar (optional

> garlic etc) mix...guar gum thickens & allows the mix

> to blend perfectly smooth (once your expirementing

> finds ideal levels of liquid & how fast too add

> etc)...also I dont agree with the warning on flax

> getting overheated in Vitamix (as is obvious from

> earlier email )..but hey different opinions are ok

> right...I know the Vitamix can be used to make hot

> soup by just blending at hi speed for long enough

> (depending on volume ) ...but the (large)amount of

> cold solution I blend does not even get time too get

> the slightest bit warm (use water /liquid from

> fridge overnight if overly concerned on this point &

> that should totally remove concerns here )...dry

> grinding of seeds (in seed/coffee grinders etc)

> requires frictional forces to work ..friction

> generates heat..you cannot grind or blend seeds, wet

> or dry (properly)without some heat being generated

> ..that is basic physics..no energy can be expended

> without heat ... & energy is being expended on the

> flax seeds, ..(I believe though heat generated in a

> cold liquid mix (with no air/Oxygen)..is less than

> that in the dry seed grinder with Oxygen present)...

> However with practice, & intelligent operation

> with whatever tool you use (Vitamix or dry

> grinder),will minimize the heat ( & oxidation)

> generated during the process imo..(Sorry there may

> well have been more emails on this subject as I

> write ..but i wont see them for 24 hours so forgive

> me if I am behind).

>

>

>

>

>

> 18

> Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:33:01 +1000

> From: " O " <beeline@...>

> Subject: RE: Flax seeds

>

>

> Tina ...a Vitamix is the best way to take whole flax

> seeds imo...IF you soak them overnight in rougly

> double volume of filtered water with a bit of celtic

> salt .

> As someone pointed out in a previous post

> Flaxseeds have toxic compounds (as do most raw

> nuts/seeds for that matter) , flax are one of the

> worst though..by soaking any nut /seed for 12 -24

> hours before using , you begin the germination

> process which in turn reduces many/most of the

> problem compounds .(Seeds have these compounds

> originally as natural chemical deterents to birds

> etc to stop them eating them.)

> I place my 14 cup or whatever amount of soaked

> Flaxseed in Vitamix jug with large chunk raw ginger

> /raw garlic , 3/4 teaspoon guar gum to ensure mixes

> smoothly without splashing all around blender cap, 2

> whole scubbed lemons cut up, and any off or all off

> the following (+whatever else you want),..slippery

> elm powder /hi mineral

> volcanicash,clay/cinammon/pectin/Kelp powder & etc.

> Not only is soaked flaxseed more digestable due

> to beginning germination, but mixing in Vitamix with

> cold water only reguires a short period ...this

> applies a lot less heat at a molecular level than a

> mechanical (dry) seed /coffee bean grinder , which

> creates high friction /heat in the process of

> grinding...also your flaxseeds are never exposed to

> air once they have been blended ..they are immersed

> in liquid solution before being ground/blended so

> cannot be oxidized unlike dry ground flaxseeds

> (which are very unstable & rapidly oxidized).

> As for storing flaxseeds after they are ground ..I

> wouldnt recommend it for obvious reasons..fwiw

>

>

>

>

>

> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 19:43:47 -0700 (PDT)

> From: Tina <frinh96221@...>

> Subject: RE: Flax seeds

>

>

> > Flax seed must be thoroughly ground to be of

> > benefit.

>

> I have a Vita-Mix. Will it not work to just add it

> to

> my morning smoothie?

>

> Tina

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

...thats no different to someone asking me after being prescribed home

made Yogurt or Kefir for building Colon healthy bacteria colonies... " What if I

am allergic to milk " .

Or someone prescribed by naturopath to eat daily dose of Sauerkraut ,asking

, " what if I am allergic to cabbage " , etc.

Obviously in these sort of instances you have to continue to avoid the

offending product in question (wether guar gum or milk or cabbage).... & hence

ignore the recomendation...OR..you compromise.

That is up to the individual...Guar gum is a member of the legume family

...(along with Chickpeas ,Mung beans ,azuki, soy etc)....I have a long history of

food allergies & GG has not been a prob for me to my knowledge , but if it is

you must obviously take that fact into consideration...I recently began adding a

high mineral volcanic ash/clay powder that is supposed to be good for everything

??(I am just trying it after a friend gave me some to try) , that also aids a

smooth mix & as such I probably barely need the GG at this stage of my mix)

Slightly less liquid/more soaked flaxseed & or 1/4 -1/2 teaspoon psyllium

(husk/fiber of flaxseed) & /or pectin powder also all do much the same thing as

GG....so you could do without ( & I have on occasions when i dont have any GG) &

its OK..but i just prefer slightly smoother consistency with GG...altho with

practice I may well get a mix without just as good as with 1 t'spoon of GG...(I

must admit I havnt really perservered to that end)

I will add on a more general note for others using Vitamix, ....(I work from

home as does my partner & she eats similar food to myself) , so we tend to use

the Vitamix often & GG while probably not essental in lemon /flaxseed is very

useful in some other preparations we find...fwiw

From: denise milfort <mllebondgirl007@...>

Date: Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:02 am

Subject: Re: RE: Flax seeds

--- O <beeline@...> wrote:

& I just saw

> Joyces( I think) email where she indicates Vitamix

> dosent blend flaxseeds properly...So I will add that

> once u experiment ( & the teaspoon or so off guar gum

> is a neccessary part of this)..you will find the

> flax seeds blend perfectly smooth Guar gum?

and what if you eat right for your blood type and

you're blood type B, you can't have guar gum and what

do you do then?

[Guest guest]

" IF you soak them overnight in rougly double volume of filtered water with a

bit of celtic salt. "

Many people have many ideas on how to ingest Flax, but I think it all

depends on what you are looking for in consuming it. First--a burr grinder

is not a high-impact grinder. It grinds with far less heat than an impact

grinder. Secondly--one of the reasons I consume flax is for the mucilage.

This helps your bowels move well and cleans you out. Mucilage is hard to

achieve in soaked flax. It really depends on why you are eating it.

After years of eating poorly, my insides are screaming. I still binge on

chocolate now and then. Still do it too much. I used to only have a bowel

movement after having my espresso. Things just didn't want to move. Since

starting Flax seed in November 2003, I often wake up having to move. It's

made me really regular. I use flax from this site:

http://131803.brightwebsite.com/store-products/Flax-Seed-1-Organic-Golden-Fl

ax-Seed-3-LB._2271910.html

I used to use Northern edge ground Flax, but found I didn't get the same

benefit as I do when grinding it myself.

I'm really hurting tonight. (

JoyceB

[Guest guest]

Thanks ,

I think I'll soak them overnight and eat them in the

morning in my oatmeal.

--- O <beeline@...> wrote:

> ...thats no different to someone asking me

> after being prescribed home made Yogurt or Kefir for

> building Colon healthy bacteria colonies... " What if

> I am allergic to milk " .

> Or someone prescribed by naturopath to eat daily

> dose of Sauerkraut ,asking , " what if I am allergic

> to cabbage " , etc.

> Obviously in these sort of instances you have to

> continue to avoid the offending product in question

> (wether guar gum or milk or cabbage).... & hence

> ignore the recomendation...OR..you compromise.

> That is up to the individual...Guar gum is a

> member of the legume family ..(along with Chickpeas

> ,Mung beans ,azuki, soy etc)....I have a long

> history of food allergies & GG has not been a prob

> for me to my knowledge , but if it is you must

> obviously take that fact into consideration...I

> recently began adding a high mineral volcanic

> ash/clay powder that is supposed to be good for

> everything ??(I am just trying it after a friend

> gave me some to try) , that also aids a smooth mix &

> as such I probably barely need the GG at this stage

> of my mix)

> Slightly less liquid/more soaked flaxseed & or

> 1/4 -1/2 teaspoon psyllium (husk/fiber of flaxseed)

> & /or pectin powder also all do much the same thing

> as GG....so you could do without ( & I have on

> occasions when i dont have any GG) & its OK..but i

> just prefer slightly smoother consistency with

> GG...altho with practice I may well get a mix

> without just as good as with 1 t'spoon of GG...(I

> must admit I havnt really perservered to that end)

> I will add on a more general note for others using

> Vitamix, ....(I work from home as does my partner &

> she eats similar food to myself) , so we tend to use

> the Vitamix often & GG while probably not essental

> in lemon /flaxseed is very useful in some other

> preparations we find...fwiw

>

>

>

>

> From: denise milfort <mllebondgirl007@...>

> Date: Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:02 am

> Subject: Re: RE: Flax seeds

>

>

>

> --- O <beeline@...> wrote:

>

> & I just saw

> > Joyces( I think) email where she indicates Vitamix

> > dosent blend flaxseeds properly...So I will add

> that

> > once u experiment ( & the teaspoon or so off guar

> gum

> > is a neccessary part of this)..you will find the

> > flax seeds blend perfectly smooth Guar gum?

>

> and what if you eat right for your blood type and

> you're blood type B, you can't have guar gum and

> what

> do you do then?

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Trader Joes has two versions of flax seed oil - I

prefer the one in a brown glass container. Works for

me, tastes good - read the bottle about information -

has superior processing method. I do not know if this

has been mentioned previously.

Jay

--- denise milfort <mllebondgirl007@...> wrote:

> Thanks ,

> I think I'll soak them overnight and eat them in the

> morning in my oatmeal.

>

> --- O <beeline@...> wrote:

> > ...thats no different to someone asking me

> > after being prescribed home made Yogurt or Kefir

> for

> > building Colon healthy bacteria colonies... " What

> if

> > I am allergic to milk " .

> > Or someone prescribed by naturopath to eat

> daily

> > dose of Sauerkraut ,asking , " what if I am

> allergic

> > to cabbage " , etc.

> > Obviously in these sort of instances you have to

> > continue to avoid the offending product in

> question

> > (wether guar gum or milk or cabbage).... & hence

> > ignore the recomendation...OR..you compromise.

> > That is up to the individual...Guar gum is a

> > member of the legume family ..(along with

> Chickpeas

> > ,Mung beans ,azuki, soy etc)....I have a long

> > history of food allergies & GG has not been a prob

> > for me to my knowledge , but if it is you must

> > obviously take that fact into consideration...I

> > recently began adding a high mineral volcanic

> > ash/clay powder that is supposed to be good for

> > everything ??(I am just trying it after a friend

> > gave me some to try) , that also aids a smooth mix

> &

> > as such I probably barely need the GG at this

> stage

> > of my mix)

> > Slightly less liquid/more soaked flaxseed & or

> > 1/4 -1/2 teaspoon psyllium (husk/fiber of

> flaxseed)

> > & /or pectin powder also all do much the same thing

> > as GG....so you could do without ( & I have on

> > occasions when i dont have any GG) & its OK..but i

> > just prefer slightly smoother consistency with

> > GG...altho with practice I may well get a mix

> > without just as good as with 1 t'spoon of GG...(I

> > must admit I havnt really perservered to that end)

> > I will add on a more general note for others

> using

> > Vitamix, ....(I work from home as does my partner

> &

> > she eats similar food to myself) , so we tend to

> use

> > the Vitamix often & GG while probably not essental

> > in lemon /flaxseed is very useful in some other

> > preparations we find...fwiw

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From: denise milfort <mllebondgirl007@...>

> > Date: Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:02 am

> > Subject: Re: RE: Flax seeds

> >

> >

> >

> > --- O <beeline@...> wrote:

> >

> > & I just saw

> > > Joyces( I think) email where she indicates

> Vitamix

> > > dosent blend flaxseeds properly...So I will add

> > that

> > > once u experiment ( & the teaspoon or so off guar

> > gum

> > > is a neccessary part of this)..you will find the

> > > flax seeds blend perfectly smooth Guar gum?

> >

> > and what if you eat right for your blood type and

> > you're blood type B, you can't have guar gum and

> > what

> > do you do then?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

My favorite is barlean flax seed oil

denise

--- Jay Grosflam <jgrosflam@...> wrote:

> Trader Joes has two versions of flax seed oil - I

> prefer the one in a brown glass container. Works

> for

> me, tastes good - read the bottle about information

> -

> has superior processing method. I do not know if

> this

> has been mentioned previously.

>

> Jay

> --- denise milfort <mllebondgirl007@...>

> wrote:

> > Thanks ,

> > I think I'll soak them overnight and eat them in

> the

> > morning in my oatmeal.

> >

> > --- O <beeline@...> wrote:

> > > ...thats no different to someone asking

> me

> > > after being prescribed home made Yogurt or Kefir

> > for

> > > building Colon healthy bacteria colonies... " What

> > if

> > > I am allergic to milk " .

> > > Or someone prescribed by naturopath to eat

> > daily

> > > dose of Sauerkraut ,asking , " what if I am

> > allergic

> > > to cabbage " , etc.

> > > Obviously in these sort of instances you have

> to

> > > continue to avoid the offending product in

> > question

> > > (wether guar gum or milk or cabbage).... & hence

> > > ignore the recomendation...OR..you compromise.

> > > That is up to the individual...Guar gum is a

> > > member of the legume family ..(along with

> > Chickpeas

> > > ,Mung beans ,azuki, soy etc)....I have a long

> > > history of food allergies & GG has not been a

> prob

> > > for me to my knowledge , but if it is you must

> > > obviously take that fact into consideration...I

> > > recently began adding a high mineral volcanic

> > > ash/clay powder that is supposed to be good for

> > > everything ??(I am just trying it after a friend

> > > gave me some to try) , that also aids a smooth

> mix

> > &

> > > as such I probably barely need the GG at this

> > stage

> > > of my mix)

> > > Slightly less liquid/more soaked flaxseed &

> or

> > > 1/4 -1/2 teaspoon psyllium (husk/fiber of

> > flaxseed)

> > > & /or pectin powder also all do much the same

> thing

> > > as GG....so you could do without ( & I have on

> > > occasions when i dont have any GG) & its OK..but

> i

> > > just prefer slightly smoother consistency with

> > > GG...altho with practice I may well get a mix

> > > without just as good as with 1 t'spoon of

> GG...(I

> > > must admit I havnt really perservered to that

> end)

> > > I will add on a more general note for others

> > using

> > > Vitamix, ....(I work from home as does my

> partner

> > &

> > > she eats similar food to myself) , so we tend to

> > use

> > > the Vitamix often & GG while probably not

> essental

> > > in lemon /flaxseed is very useful in some other

> > > preparations we find...fwiw

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > From: denise milfort <mllebondgirl007@...>

> > > Date: Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:02 am

> > > Subject: Re: RE: Flax seeds

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- O <beeline@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > & I just saw

> > > > Joyces( I think) email where she indicates

> > Vitamix

> > > > dosent blend flaxseeds properly...So I will

> add

> > > that

> > > > once u experiment ( & the teaspoon or so off

> guar

> > > gum

> > > > is a neccessary part of this)..you will find

> the

> > > > flax seeds blend perfectly smooth Guar gum?

> > >

> > > and what if you eat right for your blood type

> and

> > > you're blood type B, you can't have guar gum and

> > > what

> > > do you do then?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > > removed]

> > >

> > >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

They are good for Omega 3's but then Fish OIL is better.

Phil

veganman23 <no_reply > wrote:

It sounds like a lot of the group is not in favor of eating tofu. How

about flax seeds? They are high in lignans, a phytoestrogen.

Drake

[Guest guest]

Not to nitpick here, but flax seeds of course must be grouned up to get the

benefit. Otherwise it is basically fiber. Flax oil has more benefits in my

opinion, more bang for the buck. And can help control E naturally.

Fish oil is better for the DHA/EPA as it is readily available. The parent of

these is ALA, which is prevalant in flax, but has to be broken down to recieve

the DHA/EPA benefits. Not all folks are efficient at this, so problems could

arise there. Some may say just take more, but this becomes unfeasible, and does

not solve the problem.

Cruciferous veggies are ideal for phytoestrogens.

Ron

philip georgian <pmgamer18@...> wrote:

They are good for Omega 3's but then Fish OIL is better.

Phil

veganman23 <no_reply > wrote:

It sounds like a lot of the group is not in favor of eating tofu. How

about flax seeds? They are high in lignans, a phytoestrogen.

Drake

[Guest guest]

Ron -

when you say that flax can help control E naturally, do you mean

with phytoestrogens? If so, are you in support of soy?

> It sounds like a lot of the group is not in favor of eating tofu.

How

> about flax seeds? They are high in lignans, a phytoestrogen.

>

>

> Drake

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am not in support of soy. Some are, I am not in that group. Flax oil may have

some benefit as I stated, but my preference is by far fish oil.

Ron

veganman23 <no_reply > wrote:

Ron -

when you say that flax can help control E naturally, do you mean

with phytoestrogens? If so, are you in support of soy?

> It sounds like a lot of the group is not in favor of eating tofu.

How

> about flax seeds? They are high in lignans, a phytoestrogen.

>

>

> Drake

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Are soaked flax seeds okay? I'm assuming yes but want to double check.

> Thanks.

+++Hi Kathy. No, flax seeds and flax seed oil are not okay. Flax

seeds are fibres which are very hard on the digestive system and even

do damage, even it they are soaked. And most flax seeds are rancid when

you buy them, just like flax oil is. Flax seeds do not contain

anything special you wouldn't be getting on this program anyway, and

fibres are definitely damaging - see these articles:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/menu3_2_2.php

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Bee,

Now that you are on the topic of of flax seeds, I am curious about something.

While growing, the flax seeds would be boiled in water and my sis and I would

drink the liquid (it's kinda slimy).

Is there any reason why this practice should be stopped?

________________________________

From: Bee <beeisbuzzing2003@...>

Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 9:11:54 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: flax seeds

>

> Are soaked flax seeds okay? I'm assuming yes but want to double check.

> Thanks.

+++Hi Kathy. No, flax seeds and flax seed oil are not okay. Flax

seeds are fibres which are very hard on the digestive system and even

do damage, even it they are soaked. And most flax seeds are rancid when

you buy them, just like flax oil is. Flax seeds do not contain

anything special you wouldn't be getting on this program anyway, and

fibres are definitely damaging - see these articles:

http://www.healingn aturallybybee. com/articles/ menu3_2_2. php

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee,

>

> Now that you are on the topic of of flax seeds, I am curious about

something. While growing, the flax seeds would be boiled in water and

my sis and I would drink the liquid (it's kinda slimy).

>

> Is there any reason why this practice should be stopped?

+++Hi . What is the reason you are drinking flax seed liquid?

Bee