Guest guest Posted October 13, 2002 Report Share Posted October 13, 2002 Hi All, Here are some raw food diet papers whose Medline identifier numbers are not in our files. The first paper gives the results as being what often happens on CR – low weight and lack of women’s periods. The second found greatly reduced pancreatic cancer. The third paper reports on the Paleolithic view of raw foods. “Raw Food Fight” was notable. Paleolithic playfulness, was it? Cheers, Al. “CONCLUSIONS: The consumption of a raw food diet is associated with a high loss of body weight. Since many raw food dieters exhibited underweight and amenorrhea, a very strict raw food diet cannot be recommended on a long-term basis.” PMID: 10436305 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] “risk of pancreatic cancer associated with …….. raw food (RR = 0.28……” PMID: 8634663 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] “(The Raw Food Fight) ……… man originally ate raw food and his instinct has not evolved since those pre-historic times, but has been " artificially modified " by cooked food and the consumption of non-human milk. If man could re-develop his natural instinct and eat only fresh food, which is not prepared in any way, he could solve his health problems and restore defenses against diseases such that these could become beneficial. Cooked food, milk and cereals are thought to be the cause of cancer but instinctive eating would help to avoid or to cure cancer.” ……... PMID: 2547240 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Alan Pater, Ph.D.; Faculty of Medicine; Memorial University; St. 's, NF A1B 3V6 Canada; Tel. No.: (709) 777-6488; Fax No.: (709) 777-7010; email: apater@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 Gail, Tim or any others: What scientific evidence is there that raw foods help people live longer/healthier? Walford doesn't push it. Nor do any of the other leading nutrition gurus; i'm thinking here of Ornish/Sears/Weil. on 10/21/2002 1:17 PM, GAIL MCDONALD at zorkzoom@... wrote: I admire people who can live > the raw food lifestyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 > > I admire people who can live > > the raw food lifestyle. Yeah, here's Weil's take on the whole thing..... http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drw_cda.html? command=TodayQA & pt=Question & questionId=3035 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 --- Francesca Skelton <fskelton@e...> wrote: > Gail, Tim or any others: What scientific evidence is there > that raw foods help people live longer/healthier? This is basically the same science that shows eating fresh fruit and vegetables is good for you. As to the pros-and cons of eating any cooked food, I generally approved of the discussion of the subject on: http://www.beyondveg.com/tu-j-l/raw-cooked/ ....though it is pretty anti-raw ;-) Personally, I expect to continue to cook and eat sardines. The other thing I cook is mostly vegetables - and I regard this as a suspect element of my diet, which I plan to regularly review. From my exposure to raw foods so far, I suspect the raw fooders are mostly right - that eating primarily raw foostuffs is a good idea - and that cooking food is only rarely a good idea. However, at the moment I still cook food - and my dilemma is not whether to cook or not - it's whether to pressure-cook quickly, or to steam slowly. > Walford doesn't push it. Nor do any of the other leading > nutrition gurus; i'm thinking here of Ornish/Sears/Weil. That seems likely to depend on who you talk to. The raw fooders have their own array of nutrition gurus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 Does anyone have any opinion on Slenda (Sucralous) I have been searching for a sugar substitute to use in my coffee. In my coffee at least I cant tell the difference..........WOW Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Francesca Skelton Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [ ]raw foods Gail, Tim or any others: What scientific evidence is there that raw foodshelp people live longer/healthier? Walford doesn't push it. Nor do any ofthe other leading nutrition gurus; i'm thinking here of Ornish/Sears/Weil.on 10/21/2002 1:17 PM, GAIL MCDONALD at zorkzoom@... wrote: I admire people who can live> the raw food lifestyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 I like my coffee black but use sucralose regularly in baking, mixed with lemon juice to make a lo-cal lemonade, and for general sweetening. I agree with you it tastes excellent and doesn't have any of the nasty side effects of aspartame and some of the the other sugar substitutes... JR -----Original Message-----From: J Potter [mailto:767pilot@...]Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 2:55 PM Subject: Re: [ ]raw foods Does anyone have any opinion on Slenda (Sucralous) I have been searching for a sugar substitute to use in my coffee. In my coffee at least I cant tell the difference..........WOW Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Francesca Skelton Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [ ]raw foods Gail, Tim or any others: What scientific evidence is there that raw foodshelp people live longer/healthier? Walford doesn't push it. Nor do any ofthe other leading nutrition gurus; i'm thinking here of Ornish/Sears/Weil.on 10/21/2002 1:17 PM, GAIL MCDONALD at zorkzoom@... wrote: I admire people who can live> the raw food lifestyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2002 Report Share Posted October 21, 2002 > Does anyone have any opinion on Slenda (Sucralous). Here is what those who don't like Splenda have to say about it: http://www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_dangers.htm http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2002 Report Share Posted October 22, 2002 I read part of the website cited below and here is what I think is the crux of it: " While it certainly appears true that many people experience (sometimes impressive) improvements when first coming to raw food, it also appears that long-time pure raw-foodists who have maintained the diet for many years are rare. Anecdotal evidence also suggests (no peer-reviewed research is available on the issue, to our knowledge) that those eating 100% raw foods do not appear to be any healthier on average than people eating predominantly raw, and that raw diets are not the only diets that may work. " on 10/21/2002 3:41 PM, Tim Tyler at tt2333@... wrote: > This is basically the same science that shows eating fresh fruit > and vegetables is good for you. > > As to the pros-and cons of eating any cooked food, I generally > approved of the discussion of the subject on: http://www.beyondveg.com/tu-j-l/raw-cooked/ From my exposure to raw foods so far, I suspect the raw fooders are mostly right - that eating primarily raw foostuffs is a good idea - and that cooking food is only rarely a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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