Re: Juvenon energy formula

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I've seen an article claiming lycopene is 40 times stronger than something, and I wonder if there's a power scale somewhere on antioxidants?

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: nutrinaut

Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 11:04 AM

Subject: [ ] Juvenon energy formula

Does anyone know of a better antioxidant than the recently developed Juvenon energy formula (acetyl L-carnitine + alpha lipoic acid)Jef

[Guest guest]

--- " jwwright " <jwwright@e...> wrote:

> I've seen an article claiming lycopene is 40 times stronger

> than something, and I wonder if there's a power scale somewhere

> on antioxidants?

There's ORAC - " Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity " .

It doesn't really makes sense to use a single linear scale, though -

for example, some antioxidants ar water soluble and some are

fat soluble.

[Guest guest]

I'm sending this to the list again, because the copy I sent earlier seems to

have gotten lost in Cyberspace.

On 7 April 2003 nutrinaut <neologisticscald@...> wrote:

Subject: [ ] Juvenon energy formula

>> Does anyone know of a better antioxidant than the recently developed Juvenon

energy formula (acetyl L-carnitine + alpha lipoic acid)

>> Jef

One improvement over the Juvenon formula is to substitute R(+)-lipoic acid for

alpha lipoic acid.

Lipoic acid is a crucial antioxidant that many people in the Americas don't yet

know about. In Europe it is prescribed as a drug. The human body synthesizes

it, though it's one of the things that older bodies in particular don't make

enough of.

The supplement called " alpha lipoic acid " is a combination of two kinds of

lipoic acid molecules, designated " R " and " S. "

Molecules of the R form (R(+)-lipoic acid, sometimes also called R-lipoic, R-LA,

and RLA) -- are identical to the naturally occurring lipoic acid molecules

synthesized within our bodies.

Molecules of the S form (S(-)-lipoic acid) are only created synthetically, and

they differ physically from R(+) molecules in somewhat the same way that your

left hand differs from your right. The earliest manufacturing process, which is

still the least expensive, creates S(-) molecules mixed in with the R(+) ones.

The S(-) ones are useless in some physiological contexts and actually work

against the effectiveness of the R(+) molecules in others.

So, as I say, one improvement is to get R(+)-lipoic acid instead of the

less-effective mixture that's called " alpha lipoic acid. "

~ ~ ~ ~ ~

A second improvement over the Juvenon formula is to obtain/boost the other

members of the body's antioxidant defense network. (R(+)-lipoic acid is one of

the members. The full vitamin E complex is another.)

The antioxidant defense network, an inbuilt system that keeps us from aging more

rapidly than we do, is something else that many people don't know about. It was

discovered rather recently, through research done by Lester Packer, Ph.D. (UC

Berkeley), and by others, and is being more and more widely understood as an

important discovery for people interested in anti-aging strategies.

Packer has written quite a bit for scientists. His only book for the educated

layperson, /The Antioxidant Miracle,/ published in 1999, is excellent. The book

discusses the " dynamic interplay " among " five key antioxidants " and the

knowledge that the five recycle/regenerate each other so as to multiply their

protection against free radicals manyfold.

You can read parts of Packer's book online, starting about 10% of the way down

the page at http://tinyurl.com/801h.

(The long copy-and-paste URL for the same Web page is:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0471353116/ref=lib_dp_sp_1/104-044

8161-0042300?v=glance & s=books & vi=slide-show#reader-link.)

The Network Synergy product designed by A*O*R* (Advanced Orthomolecular

Research) delivers all five members of the antioxidant network. I take Network

Synergy and I take acetyl-L-carnitine separately.

Disclosure: I'm also a distributor of Network Synergy and other A*O*R*

supplements, and have a financial interest in this work. I'll be happy to send

more information, research links, and how to order, to anyone interested.

Lynn

dayrain@...

=====

This information does not reflect Food and Drug Administration approval of any

scientific research or any product listed and is not intended as medical

advice/treatment. Each person must make his/her own decision about nutritional

supplements and would do best to consult research reports and qualified,

well-informed health professionals.

=====

Copyright 2003 Lynn

OK to copy parts on CR Internet lists.

[Guest guest]

> Subject: [ ] Juvenon energy formula

> >> Does anyone know of a better antioxidant than the recently

developed Juvenon

> energy formula (acetyl L-carnitine + alpha lipoic acid)

> >> Jef

>

> One improvement over the Juvenon formula is to substitute R(+)-

lipoic acid for

> alpha lipoic acid.

>

> Lipoic acid is a crucial antioxidant that many people in the

Americas don't yet

> know about. In Europe it is prescribed as a drug. The human body

synthesizes

> it, though it's one of the things that older bodies in particular

don't make

> enough of.

>

> The supplement called " alpha lipoic acid " is a combination of two

kinds of

> lipoic acid molecules, designated " R " and " S. "

>

> Molecules of the R form (R(+)-lipoic acid, sometimes also called R-

lipoic, R-LA,

> and RLA) -- are identical to the naturally occurring lipoic acid

molecules

> synthesized within our bodies.

>

> Molecules of the S form (S(-)-lipoic acid) are only created

synthetically, and

> they differ physically from R(+) molecules in somewhat the same way

that your

> left hand differs from your right. The earliest manufacturing

process, which is

> still the least expensive, creates S(-) molecules mixed in with the

R(+) ones.

> The S(-) ones are useless in some physiological contexts and

actually work

> against the effectiveness of the R(+) molecules in others.

>

> So, as I say, one improvement is to get R(+)-lipoic acid instead of

the

> less-effective mixture that's called " alpha lipoic acid. "

>

> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

>

> A second improvement over the Juvenon formula is to obtain/boost

the other

> members of the body's antioxidant defense network. (R(+)-lipoic

acid is one of

> the members. The full vitamin E complex is another.)

>

> The antioxidant defense network, an inbuilt system that keeps us

from aging more

> rapidly than we do, is something else that many people don't know

about. It was

> discovered rather recently, through research done by Lester Packer,

Ph.D. (UC

> Berkeley), and by others, and is being more and more widely

understood as an

> important discovery for people interested in anti-aging strategies.

>

> Packer has written quite a bit for scientists. His only book for

the educated

> layperson, /The Antioxidant Miracle,/ published in 1999, is

excellent. The book

> discusses the " dynamic interplay " among " five key antioxidants "

and the

> knowledge that the five recycle/regenerate each other so as to

multiply their

> protection against free radicals manyfold.

>

> You can read parts of Packer's book online, starting about 10% of

the way down

> the page at http://tinyurl.com/801h.

> (The long copy-and-paste URL for the same Web page is:

> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-

/0471353116/ref=lib_dp_sp_1/104-044

> 8161-0042300?v=glance & s=books & vi=slide-show#reader-link.)

>

> The Network Synergy product designed by A*O*R* (Advanced

Orthomolecular

> Research) delivers all five members of the antioxidant network. I

take Network

> Synergy and I take acetyl-L-carnitine separately.

>

> Disclosure: I'm also a distributor of Network Synergy and other

A*O*R*

> supplements, and have a financial interest in this work. I'll be

happy to send

> more information, research links, and how to order, to anyone

interested.

>

> Lynn

> dayrain@e...

> =====

> This information does not reflect Food and Drug Administration

approval of any

> scientific research or any product listed and is not intended as

medical

> advice/treatment. Each person must make his/her own decision about

nutritional

> supplements and would do best to consult research reports and

qualified,

> well-informed health professionals.

> =====

> Copyright 2003 Lynn

> OK to copy parts on CR Internet lists.

Dear Lynn,

How come that the mayor part of the scientific community doesn't

agree on the possibility of substantial increase of life-span through

intake of antioxidants? Some time ago I read an article (Scientific

american) about scientists who warn people that supplementation in

respect of longevity only produces expensive urine. As for me, this

magazine seems to be somewhat neophobe. They recently ridiculized

the possibility of Drexlerian nanotechnology, a research field that

could lead to physical immortality for all of us.

I know of the juvenon tests on mice, but have increased life-spans

through supplementation of network antioxidants already been

established in laboratory animals?

Jef

[Guest guest]

Hi Nutri. You are mostly correct (1). Anti-oxidants in general do not increase

lifespan. R(+)LA *may* be the exception.

Micky.

(1) " He is mostly dead " (Miracle Max ( Crystal), " The

Princess Bride " )

-----Original Message-----

From: nutrinaut [mailto:neologisticscald@...]

Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:51 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Juvenon energy formula

--- In , " Lynn "

<dayrain@e...>

wrote:

[Micky Snir] <snippage>

Dear Lynn,

How come that the mayor part of the scientific community doesn't

agree on the possibility of substantial increase of life-span through

intake of antioxidants? Some time ago I read an article

(Scientific

american) about scientists who warn people that supplementation in

respect of longevity only produces expensive urine. As for me,

this

magazine seems to be somewhat neophobe. They recently ridiculized

the possibility of Drexlerian nanotechnology, a research field that

could lead to physical immortality for all of us.

I know of the juvenon tests on mice, but have increased life-spans

through supplementation of network antioxidants already been

established in laboratory animals?

Jef

[Guest guest]

Looking at the ORAC scale (ing institute), I have to wonder why clove oil has never been mentioned.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Tim Tyler

Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 4:56 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Juvenon energy formula

--- "jwwright" <jwwright@e...> wrote:> I've seen an article claiming lycopene is 40 times stronger > than something, and I wonder if there's a power scale somewhere > on antioxidants?There's ORAC - "Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity".It doesn't really makes sense to use a single linear scale, though - for example, some antioxidants ar water soluble and some are fat soluble.