Guest guest Posted February 2, 2002 Report Share Posted February 2, 2002 In a message dated 2/2/02 11:15:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, sunshinedotson@... writes: Stumbled acrossed the nude beaches? I would have DIED!! I guess I am just shy about those things.....I can talk dirty and send dirty jokes. But to actually experience it, well.....I would be so embarrassed, I would have to put my head under a rock!! LOLOLOL!!!!!! (i am not saying that it's dirty to do that, but i hope you know what i mean) Maybe it's one of those things that you have to experience to know, it's no big deal????? No, it was not a big deal at all. Of course, I was younger and took my body for granted; it was just what I lived in without paying much attention to it. The strangest bathing experience I had was when everyone was in swimsuits. The place was a well-known natural springs pool near the edge of the Sahara Desert in Morocco. The pool was in a very pleasant, clean, natural place with date palm trees and clear blue water. We camped near the pool for several days, along with other travellers from different countries. A road ran along a cliff's edge above the pool. While swimming, we looked up and saw a row of black Mercedes parked along the cliff's edge. Women in black burkhas, with chauffeurs in the background, were silently watching us as we swam and read and chatted in our tiny, comfortable swim suits. I've always wondered what they thought. Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Hi June, First, before I forget, I wanted to say that even though the reminder says that Suzie Q's appt is with Dr Errico at noon that is just the default setting...so I don't know if the receptionist will tell you when she will be in but hopefully you will be able to find her. On the swimming...I would recommend you try one of these aquajogger belts while you are swimming...I really feel like it gets my legs up to where they are more effective kicking...although it is true that some people look at me like I am using it like children do, a swimmy " bubble " ... Thanks for joining in and let us know how your appt goes. Take Care, Cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 Annie, I am glad that worked for you. When you get well into your healing you will want to study the Total Immersion technique if you decide to make swimming your fitness activity. Personally I just love the water. Right after revision it was the only place I felt good...just floating was a relief...and now it is just fun to be able to do a challenging swim workout without fear of poounding n my very fused body. Actually, not long ago I posted my thought that in the water now is the only place that I do not feel like my body is unnaturally stiff...I just feel like me. So even though that is fantasy time...I will take it. Whats a few hours a week of that gonna hurt? My husband spends hours every week pretending he's Lance Armstrong! Take Care, Cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Hi Group, I have been doing water walking, jogging and exercises for about 3 months. I am 1 year post revision. I remember someone posting about using a mask and tube (?) to be able to put their entire head in the water and swim laps. I would like to start doing that in order to get more of a cardio workout. Can anyone give me info on what to buy and how that works? Thanks, Melinda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Melinda, I use normal swim goggles. They make good ones cheap these days. I like the silicone seals best, and picked up a couple pairs in the drug store for about $7 each. I use a snorkel I got from a swim supply web site, only because I bought in winter and I don't think I was driving yet when I got it. Nothing fancy or expensive. If you're accustomed to swimming with your face in the water it's not much of a learning curve, just breathe in and out through your mouth. I used to do the crawl with rotary breathing, but now easily do that and breast stroke with the snorkel. It saves a lot of unnecessary movement and neck twisting or craning. For the most part water doesn't go up my nose, but sometimes after 10 minutes or more of solid snorkel swimming a little goes up there so I just exhale a breath or 2 through my nose to clear it. Good luck. Sharon redmarmie wrote: Hi Melinda, I think the idea is a mask and a snorkel basically not having to move your head either way, but being free to do the breaststroke otherwise. VC > > Hi Group, > > I have been doing water walking, jogging and exercises for about 3 > months. I am 1 year post revision. I remember someone posting about > using a mask and tube (?) to be able to put their entire head in the > water and swim laps. I would like to start doing that in order to get > more of a cardio workout. Can anyone give me info on what to buy and > how that works? Thanks, Melinda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Hi Melinda, I've used the Finis freestyle snorkel for two years and love it, however, when used with a pair of goggles, I have to use a nose clip to prevent water from going up the nose. Swim teams often train with this type of snorkel and with practice, a nose clip is not necessary. I use it only for freestyle swimming and take it off for breaststroke. Good luck with your water workout! Dianne Atlanta > > Hi Melinda, > > Here is a link to a swim snorkel. You can see that you put the strap > around your head and the breathing tube comes up the front middle of > your forehead. I have never used one but I have seen others use them > in the pool: http://www.finisinc.com/products-tr-snorkel.shtml > > There may be other companys that make them...and cheaper too, but this > popped up first when I googled. > > Let me know how you do after you step us your workout. I have been in > the pool only once or twice a week and its killing me! Can't wait for > fall routines again. > > Take Care, Cam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Hi Melinda, That post may have been from me. (Or may not...I think there a couple of people posting about that topic.) All that's needed is a snorkle and a mask. If you go to a dive shop or sporting store (Dick's, for example), you can buy snorkles that are attached to the mask. This is good because the angle of the snorkle is kept closer to where you want it. Talk to your dive shop salesman about the different models. If you keep your head in the water, you're able to breath fairly normally without needing to turn your body. If you raise your head to try to look up, the snorkle will most likely dip into the water and you'll need to clear it. I also bought some silicon ear plugs. I suppose about anything that the drug store sells can be used. My ears tend to keep water for several days which is something I don't need. Lastly, some anti-fogging drops for the mask are good. Take care, > > Hi Group, > > I have been doing water walking, jogging and exercises for about 3 > months. I am 1 year post revision. I remember someone posting about > using a mask and tube (?) to be able to put their entire head in the > water and swim laps. I would like to start doing that in order to get > more of a cardio workout. Can anyone give me info on what to buy and > how that works? Thanks, Melinda > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Dyann, I'm so impressed with how much you can do!  and jealous - I asked about swimming or just exercise in the water at my 4-month checkup and got the big NO - not until 8 months or more likely a year. Enjoy the water for me.  I'll keep walking in circles... I'll be so happy if it ever stops raining!  Take care,Eve Sent from my iPodOn Jun 19, 2009, at 7:53 AM, Dyann Diamond <dyanndiamond@...> wrote: ,Definitely talk to your Dr. about the swelling. Mine mostly disappeared after a few weeks. It could be the reason for some of the tightness. I seem to have lost an awful lot of my flexibility in my legs. I was very flexible before the surgery. I just finished some therapy to give me exercises for stretching the backs of my legs and buttocks. I'm really surprised at how much I've lost in such a short period of time. I'm off to my first time at the pool. I hope I can do something...-Dyann From: Ripple <lisaripplecomcast (DOT) net> Subject: RE: [ ] Ripple - Update Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 9:20 PM  Hi everyone!   Just wanted to let you know that I came home this afternoon. After talking to on Wednesday morning, I had sort of a crash and felt horrible that night and the next day or so. I think I was on a little “high†since I was getting out of ICU to go to a room.  My groin pain has been helped by Lyrica. While it is still not as strong as my other leg, it is much better. Today is my best day so far, probably another “high†since I got out, so we’ll see what tomorrow brings. It was nice to take a nap in my own bed.  While in the hospital, my brace was adjusted to be open and have a bar across the front instead of coming all the way up like up past my chest (as shown in Melinda’s photo, I think). That helped a lot as the brace wasn’t keeping my straight and was hard to walk in. Much better now.  As long as I stay on top of my meds, I feel pretty good, except that my front incision hurts quite a bit at the bottom. When my back starts hurting, it hurts from the top near the shoulders.  I had a TON of stool softeners (Colace (sp) was one) in the hospital and can’t even come close to all of the meds I have been and am still on. Robaxin (generic is Methocarbomol) helps a lot as a muscle relaxer. I take that between my intervals of Percocet and it helps a lot.  Gotta go for now. I’ll type more later as I feel stronger. Thanks for everyone’s thoughts and prayers!  R.  From: [mailto: Flatback_ Revised@gro ups.com ] On Behalf Of Kirkaldie Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:09 PM Subject: [ ] Ripple  Howdy all,  I actually just spoke to on the phone, good golly she sounds just terrific, way better than me when I was at that point post op. She's in a regular room. She says she's having a bit of what she calls groin pain, which hurts pretty good when she's up walking. She says the plans are to keep her for a week, so I'll see her Saturday. I'm always amazed at how fast you gals bounce back compared to how I felt just 6 1/2 years ago, they must be getting so much better at the pain control, as I was really zonked out, and here she was having a full conversation with me. I'm truly so glad she's doing well.    div.photo-title a, div.photo-title a:active, div.photo-title a:hover, div.photo-title a:visited { text-decoration: none; } div.file-title a, div.file-title a:active, div.file-title a:hover, div.file-title a:visited { text-decoration: none; } #ygrp-msg p#attach-count { clear: both; padding: 15px 0 3px 0; overflow: hidden; } #ygrp-msg p#attach-count span { color: #1E66AE; font-weight: bold; } div#ygrp-mlmsg #ygrp-msg p a span.yshortcuts { font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; font-weight: normal; } #ygrp-msg p a { font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; } #ygrp-mlmsg a { color: #1E66AE; } div.attach-table div div a { text-decoration: none; } div.attach-table { width: 400px; } --> ttyHtmlEnd|**|-~--> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Swimming was wonderful, well maybe you wouldn't exactly call it swimming. But I was able to do some laps on my back, just kicking my legs, 2 laps traditional and several laps like a frog. It was wonderful just to get my heart rate up. I'm exhausted after 20 minutes. I think I'm going to invest in a swim snorkel, Then I won't have to think about picking my face out of the water.  I felt so light, I didn't need my muscles to support my back. I just floated a while and enjoyed the weightless sensation. The next couple of days will tell me if I tried too much. I'm up to a one mile walk now every 3rd day. My husband's upset because now that I can drive, the shopping bills have increased again (poor man). I need to figure out how to color my hair professionally. My mousey brown and gray hair is becoming too evident. I'm pretty sure the salon sinks are out of the question. I've tried to do it myself... always a disaster. Any ideas?-Dyann From: Ripple <lisaripplecomcast (DOT) net> Subject: RE: [ ] Ripple - Update Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 9:20 PM  Hi everyone!   Just wanted to let you know that I came home this afternoon. After talking to on Wednesday morning, I had sort of a crash and felt horrible that night and the next day or so. I think I was on a little “high†since I was getting out of ICU to go to a room.  My groin pain has been helped by Lyrica. While it is still not as strong as my other leg, it is much better. Today is my best day so far, probably another “high†since I got out, so we’ll see what tomorrow brings. It was nice to take a nap in my own bed.  While in the hospital, my brace was adjusted to be open and have a bar across the front instead of coming all the way up like up past my chest (as shown in Melinda’s photo, I think). That helped a lot as the brace wasn’t keeping my straight and was hard to walk in. Much better now.  As long as I stay on top of my meds, I feel pretty good, except that my front incision hurts quite a bit at the bottom. When my back starts hurting, it hurts from the top near the shoulders.  I had a TON of stool softeners (Colace (sp) was one) in the hospital and can’t even come close to all of the meds I have been and am still on. Robaxin (generic is Methocarbomol) helps a lot as a muscle relaxer. I take that between my intervals of Percocet and it helps a lot.  Gotta go for now. I’ll type more later as I feel stronger. Thanks for everyone’s thoughts and prayers!  R.  From: [mailto: Flatback_ Revised@gro ups.com ] On Behalf Of Kirkaldie Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:09 PM Subject: [ ] Ripple  Howdy all,  I actually just spoke to on the phone, good golly she sounds just terrific, way better than me when I was at that point post op. She's in a regular room. She says she's having a bit of what she calls groin pain, which hurts pretty good when she's up walking. She says the plans are to keep her for a week, so I'll see her Saturday. I'm always amazed at how fast you gals bounce back compared to how I felt just 6 1/2 years ago, they must be getting so much better at the pain control, as I was really zonked out, and here she was having a full conversation with me. I'm truly so glad she's doing well.    div.photo-title a, div.photo-title a:active, div.photo-title a:hover, div.photo-title a:visited { text-decoration: none; } div.file-title a, div.file-title a:active, div.file-title a:hover, div.file-title a:visited { text-decoration: none; } #ygrp-msg p#attach-count { clear: both; padding: 15px 0 3px 0; overflow: hidden; } #ygrp-msg p#attach-count span { color: #1E66AE; font-weight: bold; } div#ygrp-mlmsg #ygrp-msg p a span.yshortcuts { font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; font-weight: normal; } #ygrp-msg p a { font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; } #ygrp-mlmsg a { color: #1E66AE; } div.attach-table div div a { text-decoration: none; } div.attach-table { width: 400px; } --> ttyHtmlEnd|**|-~--> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Dyann, I too was pretty leary of the salon position. I cant remember when I finally went, but I do recall going with lots of pillows and being very careful getting into the proper position in the sink. Remarkably, when I was in Denmark last year, the salon sinks are all set up so that you barely lean back, your head is almost vertical. I am guessing that this is done more to make sure that the shampooers/stylists don't hurt themselves leaning over all day...but I remember thinking that it would have been ideal post-op. I just did a quick look on google to see if there was a product available in the USA that was similar but I couldn't find anything. I did, however, stumble accross this: http://nogginwash.com/testimonials.html Its not crazy expensive and looks to me like it would do the trick. Since you are going to be fairly uncomfortable leaning back for awhile perhaps it would be worth the $$. I am sure you could sell it to another member in 6 months or so! Take Care, Cam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 the salons have bowels that encircle the ehad catching water the use them for parpalegics and my mom had one used on her when a stylist came to the house she has dementia. So jstu ask tehm ahead if they have those type of gadgets and go there Donna 310-595-6462 From: dyanndiamond@...Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:47:54 -0700Subject: Re: [ ] Swimming Swimming was wonderful, well maybe you wouldn't exactly call it swimming. But I was able to do some laps on my back, just kicking my legs, 2 laps traditional and several laps like a frog. It was wonderful just to get my heart rate up. I'm exhausted after 20 minutes. I think I'm going to invest in a swim snorkel, Then I won't have to think about picking my face out of the water. I felt so light, I didn't need my muscles to support my back. I just floated a while and enjoyed the weightless sensation. The next couple of days will tell me if I tried too much. I'm up to a one mile walk now every 3rd day. My husband's upset because now that I can drive, the shopping bills have increased again (poor man). I need to figure out how to color my hair professionally. My mousey brown and gray hair is becoming too evident. I'm pretty sure the salon sinks are out of the question. I've tried to do it myself... always a disaster. Any ideas? -Dyann From: Ripple <lisaripplecomcast (DOT) net>Subject: RE: [ ] Ripple - Update Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 9:20 PM Hi everyone! Just wanted to let you know that I came home this afternoon. After talking to on Wednesday morning, I had sort of a crash and felt horrible that night and the next day or so. I think I was on a little “high” since I was getting out of ICU to go to a room. My groin pain has been helped by Lyrica. While it is still not as strong as my other leg, it is much better. Today is my best day so far, probably another “high” since I got out, so we’ll see what tomorrow brings. It was nice to take a nap in my own bed. While in the hospital, my brace was adjusted to be open and have a bar across the front instead of coming all the way up like up past my chest (as shown in Melinda’s photo, I think). That helped a lot as the brace wasn’t keeping my straight and was hard to walk in. Much better now. As long as I stay on top of my meds, I feel pretty good, except that my front incision hurts quite a bit at the bottom. When my back starts hurting, it hurts from the top near the shoulders. I had a TON of stool softeners (Colace (sp) was one) in the hospital and can’t even come close to all of the meds I have been and am still on. Robaxin (generic is Methocarbomol) helps a lot as a muscle relaxer. I take that between my intervals of Percocet and it helps a lot. Gotta go for now. I’ll type more later as I feel stronger. Thanks for everyone’s thoughts and prayers! R. From: [mailto: Flatback_ Revised@gro ups.com ] On Behalf Of KirkaldieSent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:09 PM Subject: [ ] Ripple Howdy all, I actually just spoke to on the phone, good golly she sounds just terrific, way better than me when I was at that point post op. She's in a regular room. She says she's having a bit of what she calls groin pain, which hurts pretty good when she's up walking. She says the plans are to keep her for a week, so I'll see her Saturday. I'm always amazed at how fast you gals bounce back compared to how I felt just 6 1/2 years ago, they must be getting so much better at the pain control, as I was really zonked out, and here she was having a full conversation with me. I'm truly so glad she's doing well. div.photo-title a, div.photo-title a:active, div.photo-title a:hover, div.photo-title a:visited { text-decoration: none; } div.file-title a, div.file-title a:active, div.file-title a:hover, div.file-title a:visited { text-decoration: none; } #ygrp-msg p#attach-count { clear: both; padding: 15px 0 3px 0; overflow: hidden; } #ygrp-msg p#attach-count span { color: #1E66AE; font-weight: bold; } div#ygrp-mlmsg #ygrp-msg p a span.yshortcuts { font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; font-weight: normal; } #ygrp-msg p a { font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; } #ygrp-mlmsg a { color: #1E66AE; } div.attach-table div div a { text-decoration: none; } div.attach-table { width: 400px; } --> ttyHtmlEnd|**|-~--> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Oh! That is so funny, yet practical. I wonder if it can stand up to heavy duty hair chemicals? I usually have a highlight that takes almost two hours. I know I can't sit that long yet. Maybe I can convince them to let me lay on the eye brow waxing bed. Thanks Cam.-DyannFrom: cammaltby <cammaltby@...>Subject: [ ] Re: Swimming Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 2:35 PMDyann,I too was pretty leary of the salon position. I cant remember when I finally went, but I do recall going with lots of pillows and being very careful getting into the proper position in the sink.Remarkably, when I was in Denmark last year, the salon sinks are all set up so that you barely lean back, your head is almost vertical. I am guessing that this is done more to make sure that the shampooers/stylists don't hurt themselves leaning over all day...but I remember thinking that it would have been ideal post-op.I just did a quick look on google to see if there was a product available in the USA that was similar but I couldn't find anything. I did, however, stumble accross this:http://nogginwash.com/testimonials.htmlIts not crazy expensive and looks to me like it would do the trick. Since you are going to be fairly uncomfortable leaning back for awhile perhaps it would be worth the $$. I am sure you could sell it to another member in 6 months or so!Take Care, Cam------------------------------------scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 Hi Cam... I actually had one of those until I moved last year, when I tossed it. I used it several times, when I visited people who had been in the hospital for long periods of time, and who couldn't shower. It worked OK, but not great. The drain didn't work all that well. Regards, > > Dyann, > > I too was pretty leary of the salon position. I cant remember when I finally went, but I do recall going with lots of pillows and being very careful getting into the proper position in the sink. > > Remarkably, when I was in Denmark last year, the salon sinks are all set up so that you barely lean back, your head is almost vertical. I am guessing that this is done more to make sure that the shampooers/stylists don't hurt themselves leaning over all day...but I remember thinking that it would have been ideal post-op. > > I just did a quick look on google to see if there was a product available in the USA that was similar but I couldn't find anything. I did, however, stumble accross this: > > http://nogginwash.com/testimonials.html > > Its not crazy expensive and looks to me like it would do the trick. Since you are going to be fairly uncomfortable leaning back for awhile perhaps it would be worth the $$. I am sure you could sell it to another member in 6 months or so! > > Take Care, Cam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 Dyann - L'Oreal now makes a 10 min hair color that actually works quite well. Along with the regular tip of a haircolor bottle, it also has a comb-type attachment to comb the color through. I have very hard to color, resistant greys and was totally surprised how well the coverage is with this product. Bring a chair in the bathroom with you, cover it and the floor with an old sheet, sit naked and have your husband, daughter or girlfriend put your color in for you, wait 10 minutes and then get in the shower and rinse, rinse, rinse!! As for your highlights, you may just have to do without them for now but.......if I were you, assuming that you a regular stylist that you use, call her and ask her to recomment a color from the L'Oreal line. And IF you have used her for quite some time, ask her if she would be willing to come to your home and she could do it for you!!! Someone suggested that to me last year after my cervical fusion and even though I have been using the same hair dresser for 15 years, I felt funny asking that of her. Well, lo and behold, after my first visit back to her after that surgery, didn't she come out and say, " Why didn't you call me? I would have come to your house to color it?!?!? " . And that is exactly what I plan on doing after I have revision. But if you are not comfortable asking her and/or you know that is not something she would do, she should be able to recommend the right color for you to get something at the store. And lastly, just a little tip, if you put Vaseline all along your hairline before you begin, you won't end up with residual hair dye there for the next day or two. Hair dye tend to " soak " into my skin and there has literally been times when my skin was still dyed and yet the grey on the hair was starting to come through! Love the Vaseline trick - thought I'd share and I hope this helps until you can get back to the salon!! Good luck! D (RI) > > From: cammaltby <cammaltby@...> > Subject: [ ] Re: Swimming > > Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 2:35 PM > > Dyann, > > I too was pretty leary of the salon position. I cant remember when I finally went, but I do recall going with lots of pillows and being very careful getting into the proper position in the sink. > > Remarkably, when I was in Denmark last year, the salon sinks are all set up so that you barely lean back, your head is almost vertical. I am guessing that this is done more to make sure that the shampooers/stylists don't hurt themselves leaning over all day...but I remember thinking that it would have been ideal post-op. > > I just did a quick look on google to see if there was a product available in the USA that was similar but I couldn't find anything. I did, however, stumble accross this: > > http://nogginwash.com/testimonials.html > > Its not crazy expensive and looks to me like it would do the trick. Since you are going to be fairly uncomfortable leaning back for awhile perhaps it would be worth the $$. I am sure you could sell it to another member in 6 months or so! > > Take Care, Cam > > > > ------------------------------------ > > scoliosis veterans * flatback sufferers * revision candidates Links > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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