Re: Newbie with question on micronutrient management

[Guest guest]

Hi Commander: welcome to the group.

As for " low fat " - we do include some " good " essential fats such as olive

oil, nuts, avacado, in our diets.

Your blood condition is not common among CRONIES, commonly, we cronies have

low WHITE blood cell counts. So be sure and check with your doctor. We're

not MD's here (well, actually some of us are, if they care to answer

you.....) so don't count on us to diagnose. Can only give you the benefit

of our experience.

As Suz wrote, our files should go a long way to making managing your diet

easy. Please let us know if you have any other questions.

on 11/2/2002 9:00 AM, tloguejr at CommanderLoskene@... wrote:

> Hi everyone,

>

> I'm a 41 year old male with an interest in calorie restriction for

> prolonging life. I became interested after reading the article in

> the WSJ this past Spring.

>

> I am looking to refine the CRON diet that I haphazardly began about 4

> months ago after reading the article and some diet books emphasizing

> the low fat approach. I have been tracking only macronutients and

> total calories, but now am concerned about micronutients after

> receiving a blood profile report showing my red blood corpuscle count

> and HCT were somewhat below normal (4.50 meg per mcl and 42.8%). Is

> this expected for CRONies?

>

> Also is there an easy way for me and others following a CRON

> lifestyle to manage this on a daily basis that doesn't take too much

> time? I have been successful managing the macro side in large part

> due to a Diet/Exercise planner software program that I carry with me

> loaded on my PDA. I'm thinking I'd need something like Dr. Walford's

> computer program, but I don't think it's available for PDA's. Any

> advice?

>

> Thanks.

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[Guest guest]

> Dr. Walford's software is great, the best, btw.

Yes and I've learned a lot from it. What I've learned:

1) it is very near impossible to get anywhere near enough nutrients

from one so called " food group " even if it is the very healthiest of

the food groups - ie vegetables.

2) getting the RDA's of everything is no easy task (at least not on a

caloric intake of between 1200 - 1300 kcals which I've been doing

for a while). I've tried nearly every combination of foods and have

always come up short in something unless I spent hours planning my

diet just to increase the nutrients I lacked that day. What a waste

of time!!

3) there are a few nutrients I am almost always short of in my diet -

for instance naicin and pantothenic acid (I still eat mostly

vegetarianism + fish though so maybe it is a limitation of that diet)

4) to quickly assume you are getting enough nutrients just because

you eat what you think is a healthy diet is naive.

However, I have gotten kind of tired of DWIDPing every day. I think

I'll just eat healthy, supplement, and count calories. The

difficulty of getting 100% RDA's from food has increased the appeal

for me of at least RDA level supplementation of most nutrients. It

just seems to make sense.