Guest guest Posted November 9, 2002 Report Share Posted November 9, 2002 Steve: Congrats on your marvelous achievement! As to the answer to your question, who knows? Since we're the human " guinea pigs " , we can't say for sure. I'm of the opinion that moderation is a good way to proceed, and that if you're now getting all the nutrients you need, and feel great, you shouldn't fix, what ain't broke. If you go to extremes, you could run into some serious side effects such as osteoporosis, just to name one. on 11/9/2002 3:58 PM, Steve Sergeant at SteveSgt@... wrote: > My question is this: Would conscientiously trying to lower my > calorie intake any further be of benefit, or does it sound like I'm > already " there " ? > > --SteveSgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2002 Report Share Posted November 10, 2002 How much to restrict is a pretty difficult question. While benefit appears to come from challenging set-point, determining exactly what your personal setpoint is requires very rigorous measurement of intake and result over time. As a previously obese individual you have already done a great deal to square the curve and will see huge benefit from what you've already accomplished. Besides the fact that benefit from CR may depend on individual genetic makeup, I believe previous patterns may also make a difference. To the extent that signaling from depleted fat cells modulates CR effects the fact that you were previously heavy means you will have more fat cells, which will be more depleted than previously normal or thin individuals. If you are interested in pursuing this more deeply it would be a good idea to get blood tests and review the markers generally considered indicative of CR up regulation. In any case congrats on your success... live long and prosper. JR -----Original Message-----From: Steve Sergeant [mailto:SteveSgt@...]Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 2:59 PMCR Support GroupSubject: [ ] 6 Mo. Progress reportThis week marks six months since I started following the crON diet. (I spell it "crON" because my focus has been much more on the "ON" part than on the "CR" part.)I still eat as much as I want of the ON recipes, and calculate my daily calorie intake as varying between about 2,200 and 2,600, depending on my level of activity. My level of activity is often high, including bicycle touring, backpacking, and soon when the season arrives, cross-country skiing and backcountry ski-touring.I am 6'1", and 45 years old. When I first discovered and read "the 120 Year Diet" last November, I weighed 248 lbs., and had given-up on trying to maintain my weight by eating whatever I wanted and then counting on high levels of physical activity to consume the excess calories. More modest attempts to limit the excesses in my diet, and getting back into some light cycling and cross-country skiing brought me down to 230 lbs. by mid-March.The excesses I limited were alcohol, cheese, and white bread and pasta. I've never been much of a meat eater, though I like eggs and seafood. I've switched to whole grain products whenever possible, stayed away from cheese completely (except non-fat kefir, ricotta, or cottage cheese), and cut back to no more than two drinks a week (either red wine, or my weakness, single-malt scotch).After deliberately starting the ON diet in March of this year, and after a glowingly encouraging check-up from my doctor, I returned to some fairly vigorous physical activities. My weight dropped to around 210 by the end of June. I found that my appetite was dropping over that period as well, and seemed to vary more directly according to my level of activity.As of late-August/early-September, my weight has leveled off around 185 lbs. According to the body-mass tester (electro-resistive type) at my company's fitness center, my body fat dropped to a minimum of 12% when I was at 205 lbs., but has slowly increased to about 16% since then. That, of course, makes me wonder how accurate those machines are.I've never formally started a deliberate calorie restriction stage, but I'm not convinced that I need to at this point. I feel and am told I look five years younger, and am having more fun in my life all-in-all.I've noticed changes that others in this group have talked about, including better sleep, reduction of sleep apnea and snoring, a lot more energy and alertness, lower body temperature (from an average 98.8F down to 97.3F), and frequently cold feet and hands.My question is this: Would conscientiously trying to lower my calorie intake any further be of benefit, or does it sound like I'm already "there"?--SteveSgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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