Re: Tyramine

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Thanks Tim,

That pretty well covers it. I'm surprised that some things I still eat like avocados, bananas are offensive. Actually, of all those listed foods, only bananas raise my Blood pressure a little. Most I don't react to now that I take a calcium blocker. That pretty well did away with the headaches.

Regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Tim Tyler <tt2333@...>

Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 10:09 AM

Subject: [ ] Tyramine

"jwwright" <jwwright@e...> wrote:> While everyone tends to dwell on caffeine, it's the tyramines > in aged or fermented foods that causes grief. Causes severe> migraines in some people, eg, and that can cause nausea and > other things. I notice they are just beginning to test cheeses > for tyramine content.A page about Tyramine:http://www.gnc.com/health_notes/Diet/Tyramine_Free_Diet.htm

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" jwwright " <jwwright@e...> wrote:

> That pretty well covers it. I'm surprised that some things I

> still eat like avocados, bananas are offensive.

The page only has two categories - " bad " and " very bad " :-(

....and it doesn't go into the effects in much detail either.

Tyamine seems /definitely/ undesirable - *if* you've taken a

monoamine oxidase inhibitor - e.g. deprynl or GH3 - recently.

Otherwise the picture is less clear to me.

Tyamine seems to get implicated in headaches - e.g.:

http://optom.tripod.com/headache.htm - along with

nitrates and MSG - but I'm finding it difficult to

see whether it is a very significant risk factor.

Re bananas:

``Furthermore, regarding the controversy of " bananas " , she

also agreed that the reported adverse event involving a

banana included the stewing of the banana and banana peel;

however, overripe bananas increase in tyramine content,

thus, overripe bananas should be avoided.''

This makes it sounds like only one experiment has black-listed

bananas.

[Guest guest]

It occurs to me the USDA database is lacking in a lot of things. They keep updating it with more and more OTC foods, but not much on nutrients or offensive non-nutrients. I've added what I can find datawise to mine but not a lot. The SR14 and SR15 (which has a lot removed) are way behind.

Probably the overripe thing applies to all fruits.

regards.

----- Original Message -----

From: Tim Tyler <tt2333@...>

Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:12 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Tyramine

"jwwright" <jwwright@e...> wrote:> That pretty well covers it. I'm surprised that some things I > still eat like avocados, bananas are offensive.The page only has two categories - "bad" and "very bad" :-(...and it doesn't go into the effects in much detail either.Tyamine seems /definitely/ undesirable - *if* you've taken a monoamine oxidase inhibitor - e.g. deprynl or GH3 - recently.Otherwise the picture is less clear to me.Tyamine seems to get implicated in headaches - e.g.:http://optom.tripod.com/headache.htm - along withnitrates and MSG - but I'm finding it difficult tosee whether it is a very significant risk factor.Re bananas:``Furthermore, regarding the controversy of "bananas", she also agreed that the reported adverse event involving a banana included the stewing of the banana and banana peel; however, overripe bananas increase in tyramine content, thus, overripe bananas should be avoided.''This makes it sounds like only one experiment has black-listedbananas.