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Hi Francesca,

I do remember reading that these benefits of alcohol are for men only. That

women have a very different profile given the estrogen in their bodies, and

that even one drink per day may significantly raise the risk of breast

cancer .Two drinks adds much more risk etc.

MM

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Thanks MM. We women can't win! I guess one must assess " what one is going

to die from " as Walford puts it. If you fear heart disease more than

cancer, have your one glassful!! OTOH if you have a family history (or are

nervous about breast cancer) don't. Actually in the United States, just in

general, heart disease is the #1 killer of both sexes. Cancer is second (I

believe lung in men and women are fast catching up with lung cancer).

on 1/20/2003 6:52 PM, Mambo Mambo at mambomambo@... wrote:

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> Hi Francesca,

> I do remember reading that these benefits of alcohol are for men only. That

> women have a very different profile given the estrogen in their bodies, and

> that even one drink per day may significantly raise the risk of breast

> cancer .Two drinks adds much more risk etc.

> MM

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Hi everyone,

My names , I'm 23 years of age and I'm from the UK.

I'm new to the board but I've found the alcohol argument very

interesting.

I personally do not consume alcohol and I havn't done so for the last

5 years.

I see that many of the posts are pro alcohol in moderation but I

wonder if society is looking for ways to justify to themselves

alcohol consumption by going along with the 'alcohol is good for you'

theory.

To the best of my knowledge, there are many ways to ensure a healthy

heart and to prevent heart disease, keeping cholestorol in check,

keeping Homocysteine levels low, regular exercise, use of

supplements, youthfull hormonal levels, anti-coagulants etc...

Surely this is a better way to look after your heart than alcohol?

The consumption of alcohol results in the formation of two very toxic

compounds: acetaldehyde and malondialdehyde. These compounds generate

massive free radical damage to cells throughout the body.

The real question is... do the benefits of alcohol outweigh the

negatives? and can heart disease be prevented by a less toxic method?

Rob

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--- " <rob23uk2002@h...> " <rob23uk2002@h...> wrote:

> My names , I'm 23 years of age and I'm from the UK.

I was beginning to think I was the only one of us ;-)

> The consumption of alcohol results in the formation of two

> very toxic compounds: acetaldehyde and malondialdehyde.

> These compounds generate massive free radical damage to

> cells throughout the body.

I think that's mainly once the liver's ability to detoxify

alcohol has been outstripped. That seems easy to do, though -

the liver is reputed to be able to deal with about an ounce

of red wine per hour.

It seems /possible/ that small doses of alcohol maximise the

benefits while avoiding the risks.

The idea of getting at the goodness of grapes - without all the

sugar - has some attraction.

However it does all look to me like playing with fire.

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