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We have an idea where the cliff is, from animal studies, it's around 70% CR

down from ad lib intake. Are you anywhere near that, do you think?

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Alan Pater [mailto:apater@...]

> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:12 AM

> CR Support Group (E-mail)

> Subject: [ ] Does CR have an extreme?

>

>

> Hi All,

>

> There may be those to whom CR has become addicting. There

> are so many more

> out there who have anorexia and bulimia nervosa than among us

> CRONies. They

> likely started to lose a few pounds only. An exercise

> fanatic often started

> because their couch potato life was viewed unhealthy. They

> were not first

> motivated to run marathons when they started. When kids

> light up their

> first cigarette, do they think that it would be terrific to smoke 50

> cigarettes a day for the rest of their lives? At the extreme of my CR

> regime, I found it exciting to be living on the edge. There

> may be a cliff.

>

> Cheers, Al.

>

> Alan Pater, Ph.D.; Faculty of Medicine; Memorial University;

> St. 's, NL

> A1B 3V6 Canada; Tel. No.: (709) 777-6488; Fax No.: (709)

> 777-7010; email:

> apater@...

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>

>

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Al writes: At the extreme of my CR regime, I found it exciting to be living on the edge. There may be a cliff.

Al, I'm certainly no expert, but I have been listening to CRONies for a few years now, whether in person or online. What does truly concern me is the number of individuals who seem to have fallen off the cliff mentally. These individuals are very attuned to the physical effects of CRON on their lives, but seem to be in complete denial regarding their own mental deterioration. I suppose we all want to get as close to that edge as we can without going over. I'm suggesting, therefore, that monitoring our own mental health might be a better gauge than the actual physical indicators of CR of where we stand relative to that cliff. It's just a hunch.

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``I'm certainly no expert, but I have been listening to CRONies for

a few years now, whether in person or online. What does truly

concern me is the number of individuals who seem to have fallen off

the cliff mentally. These individuals are very attuned to the

physical effects of CRON on their lives, but seem to be in complete

denial regarding their own mental deterioration.''

If much of this discussion has been over the internet, have there

been more nutcases than elsewhere?

The internet is full of fruitcases - but I can't say I've noticed

a *particular* abundance of them among CR practitioners.

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I am not that kind of animal and no - only about half way. The view was

nice, but results were not, All.

Cheers, Al.

From: " Quantum Mechanic " <morphy@a...>

Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 12:52 pm

Subject: RE: [ ] Does CR have an extreme?

We have an idea where the

cliff is, from animal

studies, it's around 70% CR

down from ad lib intake.

Are you anywhere near that,

do you think?

> -----Original

Message-----

> From: Alan Pater

[mailto:apater@m...]

> Sent: Tuesday, October

22, 2002 8:12 AM

> CR Support Group

(E-mail)

> Subject: [ ]

Does CR have an extreme?

>

>

> Hi All,

>

> There may be those to whom CR has become addicting. There

> are so many more

> out there who have anorexia and bulimia nervosa than

among us

> CRONies. They

> likely started to lose a few pounds only. An exercise

> fanatic often started

> because their couch potato life was viewed unhealthy.

They

> were not first

> motivated to run marathons when they started. When kids

> light up their

> first cigarette, do they think that it would be terrific

to smoke

50

> cigarettes a day for the rest of their lives? At the

extreme of my

CR

> regime, I found it exciting to be living on the edge.

There

> may be a cliff.

>

> Cheers, Al.

>

> Alan Pater, Ph.D.; Faculty of Medicine; Memorial

University;

> St. 's, NL

> A1B 3V6 Canada; Tel. No.: (709) 777-6488; Fax No.: (709)

> 777-7010; email:

> apater@m...

Alan Pater, Ph.D.; Faculty of Medicine; Memorial University; St. 's, NL

A1B 3V6 Canada; Tel. No.: (709) 777-6488; Fax No.: (709) 777-7010; email:

apater@...

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Why do you think you were living on the edge if you weren't near the

" cliff " ?

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Alan Pater [mailto:apater@...]

> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:42 PM

> CR Support Group (E-mail)

> Subject: RE: [ ] Does CR have an extreme?

>

>

> I am not that kind of animal and no - only about half way.

> The view was

> nice, but results were not, All.

>

> Cheers, Al.

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