Re: FW: Fatty Acids O6 & O3, Grains, Sprouted Foods, Etc.

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> On another topic... Do you eat any grains? Do you try to limit total

> carbs per day -what amount in grams/day?

I tend not to cook grains at home. I recently purchased some rice protein

powder to compliment the protein from the beans I eat. I tend to either eat the

beans plain, or cook them up with some greens and a few spritzes of olive oil

spray plus a few spritzes of roasted garlic oil spray (quite yummy). I like the

rice protein mixed in with milk. It's actually quite sweet and good, despite

only

having (I believe) 1 gram carbs/serving.

With the caveat that at the moment this probably doesn't apply on days when I

eat out, I try to keep my carb count below150-200 grams, not counting fiber.

Most of my carbs come from fruits, veggies, yams, and sprouted grain bread.

When eating out, aside from occasionally really wanting bread or pasta, my

biggest weakness that I'm not sure how to get past is sushi rice. I love sushi.

I

love the rolls in addition to sashimi, and they just don't taste right with

brown

rice. Any thoughts?

I also am a big fan of the Ezekiel Bread. I tend to use it as a substrate for

flax

seed oil and spirulina, which, believe it or not, is rather good. I don't

understand how you use it for a tortilla style sandwich, though. Could you

explain? It doesn't seem large or flat enough to be used in a wrap at all

- Annie

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From: "annie_fox" <annie_fox@y...>Date: Mon Apr 28, 2003 7:47 amAnnie wrote:When eating out, aside from occasionally really wanting bread or pasta, mybiggest weakness that I'm not sure how to get past is sushi rice. I love sushi.I love the rolls in addition to sashimi, and they just don't taste right withbrown rice. Any thoughts?I love sushi & the sticky rice too... no need to consider brown rice! Eating out is a pleasure that should be enjoyed too without having to be too concerned about a few "lower nutrition" or "higher calorie" foods.If you eat too much just skip your meal before or after to compensate. IIRC, even Dr. Walford mentions eating out occasionally, perhaps it was once per week, without much concern ordering from the menu. (I'm sure he chooses restaurants & menu items wisely, wink.) There are even seasonal changes & holiday or party events which cause "calorie/nutrition bumps" down the road. Just compensate for the destination and accept the detours along the way. This strategy can work for many, although others may have issues with repeated "binging", weight swings, which might need a different strategy.If you're just starting out with CR, then you should do this lifetime change very, very, slowly IMO. Don't go gunho "extreme" or be "perfect", rather consider this a lifetime "slow transformation" with your "culinary cr/nutrition experience" learning/doing over a long period of time -years. Just eating the higher nutrition meals lower calorie for calorie more often than not will get you down the path. Why do you want to do CR anyway? To extend your maximum lifetime potential or extend your healthy years in-between youth & old age? Both? There are many answers & reasons beyond these.I also am a big fan of the Ezekiel Bread. I tend to use it as a substrate forflax seed oil and spirulina, which, believe it or not, is rather good. I don'tunderstand how you use it for a tortilla style sandwich, though. Could youexplain? It doesn't seem large or flat enough to be used in a wrap at allThey do make tortillas too. A tortilla and burrito size. Check this link for details...http://www.food-for-life.com/summary.asp?cat=25crbest, numicucamonga

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> I love sushi & the sticky rice too... no need to consider brown rice!

> Eating out is a pleasure that should be enjoyed too without having to be too

> concerned about a few " lower nutrition " or " higher calorie " foods.

>

> If you eat too much just skip your meal before or after to compensate.

I know that seems sensible, but I would love to have sushi fairly regularly. I

also think it is important to try to avoid glucose spikes as part of any dietary

anti-aging program, so I think skipping meals may actually make things worse.

I definitely question the sense of practicing CRON by skipping lunch, etc.,

which I know some people do. Not that I am good at spacing my intake yet. I'm

on an irregular schedule, and still often get busy and don't get around to

eating

until fairly late in the day. That's something I need to work on, IMO.

Still, doing it occasionally probably wouldn't have bad effects, but I guess we

just don't know. Even an occasional high calorie day might effectively reverse

the induction of whatever positive processes are giving the CR benefit. I would

be very interested in seeing studies in which the mice averaged out to a CRON

diet, but had one gluttonous day per week, or month, or even try several

different intervals on different groups. I think that study could tell us a

lot.

> If you're just starting out with CR, then you should do this lifetime change

> very, very, slowly IMO. Don't go gunho " extreme " or be " perfect " , rather

> consider this a lifetime " slow transformation " with your " culinary

> cr/nutrition experience " learning/doing over a long period of time -years.

The thing is, while I initially did make gradual changes to my diet, the way I

work is if I go through a period in which I am not eating healthy food, when I

go

back to stocking up on healthy food and cooking, my calorie count drops quite

suddenly. Eating more low cal and nutritious veggies just fills me up. I do

hope

that doesn't undermine the CR benefits.

Why do you want to do CR anyway? To

> extend your maximum lifetime potential or extend your healthy years

> in-between youth & old age? Both? There are many answers & reasons

beyond

> these.

Definitely both. I want to have a long, youthful life to experience more, and

to

accomplish more. I've gotten off to a rocky start and haven't done either to the

extent I had hoped by this age, and I am in shock that I'm approaching my 30th

birthday. I by no means feel almost 30. Not physically, not emotionally, etc.

However, I am noticing some signs of physical aging which causes quite a bit

of cognitive dissonance. I want to do all I can to stay youthful for as long as

possible. I also want my mind to stay active and not lose cognitive ability

throughout my life.

What are your reasons?

> They do make tortillas too. A tortilla and burrito size. Check this link

> for details...

>

> http://www.food-for-life.com/summary.asp?cat=25

Thank you! I'll have to look for those. I checked out the website and there

was

no nutritional information, but it definitely seems like a must-try. I saw that

they

also apparently have a new low carb bread - only 4 grams of carbs per slice.

That sounds intriguing as well.

Any nutrional yeast recommendations? :-) No one responded to that post, so I

guess I'll just have to keep searching for a good unfortified one.

Take care,

Annie

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From: "annie_fox" <annie_fox@y...>Date: Tue Apr 29, 2003 12:11 amAnnie wrote:I know that seems sensible, but I would love to have sushi fairly regularly. I also think it is important to try to avoid glucose spikes as part of any dietary anti-aging program, so I think skipping meals may actually make things worse.What's wrong with 3 to 5 meals per week of sushi? Maybe $$$. wink. Your glucose won't spike by skipping a meal, but hypoglycemia would be a concern if you have this condition. To lower the glucose peak eat protein & fat with the carbs. Fiber is good too. Also, don't eat too many carbs at one meal. If you limited your rice between 1/2 & 1 Cup, ate some protein w/small amount of fat, then your glucose peak should be ok.Do you know whether your blood sugar levels are normal?If you are really serious about knowing your glucose response, then there is no more accurate method than to test yourself with a glucose meter after eating various meals you test for.Also, doing moderate exercise, even a brisk 15 minute walk, after a high-carb meal helps quite a bit.I definitely question the sense of practicing CRON by skipping lunch, etc., which I know some people do.I think it's very much an individual choice. Some do well grazing small meals others not. It depends on your energy levels, mood swings, or binging control. Just do what works best for you.Even an occasional high calorie day might effectively reverse the induction of whatever positive processes are giving the CR benefit.Not likely. This is a lifetime process. But if your blood sugars are not normal, then that could change the equation. I would be very interested in seeing studies in which the mice averaged out to a CRON diet, but had one gluttonous day per week, or month, or even try several different intervals on different groups. I think that study could tell us a lot.There are studies with eating every other day. The life extension benefit is not quite as good as eating less each day. BUT. Look what Katrina just posted... See: Fasting more effective than low calorie diets?I want to do all I can to stay youthful for as long as possible. I also want my mind to stay active and not lose cognitive ability throughout my life.What are your reasons?Your above two sentences match my goals. Because of this I won't do extreme CR and will rely more on my genes for the maximum life span aspect. (No one has died "young" in my family with serious disease, etc.)Any nutrional yeast recommendations? :-)I don't eat yeast but here are two that some use. Labs Brewer's YeastSolgars Brewer's Yeasttake care, numi