EFA

[Guest guest]

My son is also very picky when it comes to medicine - so we are trying

coromega right now. It is very similar to the Pro efa except it does not

have the omega 6 (borage oil). It is orange flavored and is the consistency

of yogurt - my son will take it right off the spoon but many people mix it

with yogurt or orange juice. They have a website - www.coromega.com - if

you are interested. They will send you free samples.

Good Luck!

[Guest guest]

what exactly does the coromega do? i hear so much abot the proEFA also. Im

new to this. my son was just diagnosed with apraxia and im looking for info

on supplements that can hopefully help him. if anyone has any info on what i

can give him, PLEASE WRITE........ Loribar@...

[Guest guest]

Hi Nicky MI!

Here are my mom answers to your questions. If I say anything wrong

the professionals will let all of us know! (thanks)

" Can someone tell me if efa will work for a child that is not apraxic

but just a late talker. I'm still waiting to get a diagnosis. "

My friend MD not only supplemented with EFA before,

during and after pregnancy, but added EFA to her son's formula when

she didn't nurse him (he is 9 months old now and doing incredible,

and she continues to supplement him daily) Most of 's patients

are seniors, but she believes EFA supplements are for everyone, and

has seen the positive results. We would need to do clinical research

however to know the answer to your question for a fact. You should

know however within a few weeks if EFA supplements " work " with your

child. Again, you can just somehow slip some sardines into your

child's diet if you want to supplement the " natural " way.

" Also, no one has answered my question about efa and anemia. can you

gat anemia from taking efa? "

I spoke to , the owner of Nordic Naturals, and the answer is

no. EFA means essential fatty acid or omega 3 /6 or LCP, or just

plain ol' fish oil.. just like apraxia; EFA goes by lots of names

too.

" Lastly, is apraxia more of talking but not being understandable or

just having a limited vocabulary of a few words? "

Apraxia is neurologically based, and it is a motor planning

disorder. For that reason, one needs to look at the whole child and

check for subtle motor planning issues in other parts of the body

outside of the mouth or face. Dr. Agin says apraxia can affect

breath control, the larynx, etc.

A child can have either of the above symptoms you mentioned for other

reasons. For example a child can talk and not be understandable and

have a phonological disorder, which is not neurologically based, and

according to Dr. 's study at the University Hospital in

Pittsburgh requires around 80% less therapy than the same child with

apraxia. A child with a limited vocabulary of words can just be a

late talker, with a delay in speech, that does not make him or her

apraxic either. A child with a simple delay in speech may " just

start talking " (what we all hoped for that have apraxic children)

even without therapy. As some of us sadly found out the hard way,

that is not the case for apraxic children. Apraxia does not self

resolve.

In my opinion, and of course I'm just a mom, if your child exhibits

some of the " soft " neurological signs together with being a late

talker, it would be one of the " clues " that your child may have

apraxia. The soft signs would be hypotonia and sensory integration.

I know some believe that sensory integration can create the speech

disorder, but that's just too chicken and egg for me to get into! We

have many signs of oral and verbal apraxia at our website at

http://www.apraxia.cc and of course your appointments with qualified

speech and neurodevelopmental medical professionals will help to

determine the reasons for the delay in speech.

Best,

[Guest guest]

,

Thank you for answering those questions. I have a couple more for

you!!

1.) What would the dosage be for a 2.5 yr. old, 26 pounds?

2.) Does the child have to stay on the supplement 'forever'?

These are the only 2 questions I haven't seen addressed anywhere, and

the only 2 I wrestle with, trying to decide whether or not to give

them a try.

Thanks for your time,

Tammy

[Guest guest]

Excellent post -- thanks!!

--- In @y..., "

[Guest guest]

thanks for answering my questions, I have decided to order some proefa.

Nicky Mi

[Guest guest]

Hi

I give my twins the 2 caps. of PRO EFA. I puncture it and I squeeze it on a

spoon and add a couple of drops of Coke-cola syrup in it and I tell them its

Grandma's medicine and they take it just like that. I call it Grandmas

medicine because she was the one who read up on the Pro EFA and she started

given my kids this a year and 1/2 ago, and they are so used to reciving it

after dinner they don't even think about the taste at all.

JOYA

[Guest guest]

My son gets cold pressed organic flaxseed oil three times a day mixed with

yoghurt. The oil is very mild. If not, then suspect rancidity.

mjh

In a message dated 6/22/02 11:36:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

donnaaron@... writes:

> Regarding suppliments: I know some of you are using EFA. I bought some

> " Health From The Sun Total EFA " at Whole Foods. The label talks about the

> " fresh taste " of the liquid. ly, it tastes more like fresh c--p to me

> -- really bitter. I'm looking for ideas on how to get this stuff into my

> son. I'm putting Poly-Vi-Sol into my son's soy yogurt (it does change the

> taste, very metalic, but he's eating it without complaint), but I can't

> imagine what I would mix this with. Or are there other, more palatable

> brands that I could try?

>

> Thanks in advance!

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, BUT my son is 37 and weighs 240......this is really helping his brain

function.

mjh

In a message dated 6/23/02 1:00:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

donnaaron@... writes:

> it's rancid -- it's primarily cold-pressed flaxseed oil, but has some

> additional ingredients in it like rosemary and evening primrose oil, so the

> bitter taste is definitely herbal. Doesn't matter now, though, because I

> put a tablespoon in 's soy yogurt and he's eating (and seems to be

> enjoying) it. What do you know! One more question: The label says that a

> " serving " is one tablespoon. Are you giving your son three tablespoons a

> day?

>

[Guest guest]

I don't think it's rancid -- it's primarily cold-pressed flaxseed oil, but has

some additional ingredients in it like rosemary and evening primrose oil, so the

bitter taste is definitely herbal. Doesn't matter now, though, because I put a

tablespoon in 's soy yogurt and he's eating (and seems to be enjoying) it.

What do you know! One more question: The label says that a " serving " is one

tablespoon. Are you giving your son three tablespoons a day?

Donna

Re: EFA

My son gets cold pressed organic flaxseed oil three times a day mixed with

yoghurt. The oil is very mild. If not, then suspect rancidity.

mjh

In a message dated 6/22/02 11:36:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

donnaaron@... writes:

> Regarding suppliments: I know some of you are using EFA. I bought some

> " Health From The Sun Total EFA " at Whole Foods. The label talks about the

> " fresh taste " of the liquid. ly, it tastes more like fresh c--p to me

> -- really bitter. I'm looking for ideas on how to get this stuff into my

> son. I'm putting Poly-Vi-Sol into my son's soy yogurt (it does change the

> taste, very metalic, but he's eating it without complaint), but I can't

> imagine what I would mix this with. Or are there other, more palatable

> brands that I could try?

>

> Thanks in advance!

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

On the Children's Apraxia site and the Speech Diet site, EFA's

are all the rage. Efalex was the first choice but now the majority of the

people use Nordic Naturals Pro EFA (there is also a Nordic Naturals Pro EPA

which some kids/adults seem to benefit from but not as much as the Pro EFA).

It hasn't helped 100% of the kids but I wouldn't be far off to say that at

least 80% of the kids who have tried it have benefited - some (including my

son) miraculously. A father wrote that his six-year old non-speaking child

starting saying complex phrases within a couple of days of taking the Pro

EFA. And the best thing about it is that it's not fishy. Honest. My son

won't touch any of the other fish oils that I try to hide in his juice but

he's never complained on this one. It's kind of hard to find but easy to

locate online. I was able to get it for 13 dollars a bottle. My husband and

I take it too.

Anyway, just my two cents.

- mom to Isaac, autistic spectrum when he was two, but currently doing

great and will be in regular kindergarten in the fall.

[Guest guest]

Donna,

We tried Efalex for about a year....(before we started with Dr G). I didn't

see any effect with either of my children (one ADD and one w/autism).

Sharon

Unlocking Autism's

Wings for Little Angels Program

" Helping Those with Autism Soar "

[Guest guest]

Sharon

What oils are in Efalex?

thanks

mjh

In a message dated 6/24/02 5:58:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Aut2BMiracles@... writes:

> Donna,

> We tried Efalex for about a year....(before we started with Dr G). I

> didn't

> see any effect with either of my children (one ADD and one w/autism).

>

[Guest guest]

We use Essential Balance Jr. by Omega Nutrition. It's a blend of fresh

pressed organic flax, safflower, pumpkin, borage and sesame oils with

natural butterscotch flavoring. The kids like it.

Re: EFA

>

>

> My son gets cold pressed organic flaxseed oil three times a day mixed

with

> yoghurt. The oil is very mild. If not, then suspect rancidity.

> mjh

>

> In a message dated 6/22/02 11:36:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> donnaaron@... writes:

>

>

> > Regarding suppliments: I know some of you are using EFA. I bought

some

> > " Health From The Sun Total EFA " at Whole Foods. The label talks

about the

> > " fresh taste " of the liquid. ly, it tastes more like fresh c--p

to me

> > -- really bitter. I'm looking for ideas on how to get this stuff into

my

> > son. I'm putting Poly-Vi-Sol into my son's soy yogurt (it does change

the

> > taste, very metalic, but he's eating it without complaint), but I

can't

> > imagine what I would mix this with. Or are there other, more

palatable

> > brands that I could try?

> >

> > Thanks in advance!

> > Donna

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That sounds pretty good -- a lot better, in fact. Did you order it online or

buy it at a health food store (and, if at a store, which one?)

Re: EFA

>

>

> My son gets cold pressed organic flaxseed oil three times a day mixed

with

> yoghurt. The oil is very mild. If not, then suspect rancidity.

> mjh

>

> In a message dated 6/22/02 11:36:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> donnaaron@... writes:

>

>

> > Regarding suppliments: I know some of you are using EFA. I bought

some

> > " Health From The Sun Total EFA " at Whole Foods. The label talks

about the

> > " fresh taste " of the liquid. ly, it tastes more like fresh c--p

to me

> > -- really bitter. I'm looking for ideas on how to get this stuff into

my

> > son. I'm putting Poly-Vi-Sol into my son's soy yogurt (it does change

the

> > taste, very metalic, but he's eating it without complaint), but I

can't

> > imagine what I would mix this with. Or are there other, more

palatable

> > brands that I could try?

> >

> > Thanks in advance!

> > Donna

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/24/02 6:17:26 PM Central Daylight Time,

foxhillers@... writes:

> Sharon

> What oils are in Efalex?

> thanks

> mjh

It has been so long (a few years) since I tried it, that I really don't

remember. Sorry. You can find it in most health food stores and I'm sure it

would say on the label. It is marketed for kids with ADD and related

disorders. We didn't see any notable changes with it though.

Sharon

Unlocking Autism's

Wings for Little Angels Program

" Helping Those with Autism Soar "

[Guest guest]

I buy it at a health food store, but I'm in Ontario. I have a # here, it's

1-800-661-FLAX, it's a Canadian number but it might work for you. If that

doesn't work try searching online for Omega Nutrition. I only have a sample

bottle here and the website isn't on it.

Re: EFA

> >

> >

> > My son gets cold pressed organic flaxseed oil three times a day

mixed

> with

> > yoghurt. The oil is very mild. If not, then suspect rancidity.

> > mjh

> >

> > In a message dated 6/22/02 11:36:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > donnaaron@... writes:

> >

> >

> > > Regarding suppliments: I know some of you are using EFA. I

bought

> some

> > > " Health From The Sun Total EFA " at Whole Foods. The label talks

> about the

> > > " fresh taste " of the liquid. ly, it tastes more like fresh

c--p

> to me

> > > -- really bitter. I'm looking for ideas on how to get this stuff

into

> my

> > > son. I'm putting Poly-Vi-Sol into my son's soy yogurt (it does

change

> the

> > > taste, very metalic, but he's eating it without complaint), but I

> can't

> > > imagine what I would mix this with. Or are there other, more

> palatable

> > > brands that I could try?

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance!

> > > Donna

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, I'll try it.

-- Donna

Re: EFA

> >

> >

> > My son gets cold pressed organic flaxseed oil three times a day

mixed

> with

> > yoghurt. The oil is very mild. If not, then suspect rancidity.

> > mjh

> >

> > In a message dated 6/22/02 11:36:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > donnaaron@... writes:

> >

> >

> > > Regarding suppliments: I know some of you are using EFA. I

bought

> some

> > > " Health From The Sun Total EFA " at Whole Foods. The label talks

> about the

> > > " fresh taste " of the liquid. ly, it tastes more like fresh

c--p

> to me

> > > -- really bitter. I'm looking for ideas on how to get this stuff

into

> my

> > > son. I'm putting Poly-Vi-Sol into my son's soy yogurt (it does

change

> the

> > > taste, very metalic, but he's eating it without complaint), but I

> can't

> > > imagine what I would mix this with. Or are there other, more

> palatable

> > > brands that I could try?

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance!

> > > Donna

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

If anyone is interested, I found Essential Balance Jr. at www.jarrow.com.

Re: EFA

> >

> >

> > My son gets cold pressed organic flaxseed oil three times a day

mixed

> with

> > yoghurt. The oil is very mild. If not, then suspect rancidity.

> > mjh

> >

> > In a message dated 6/22/02 11:36:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> > donnaaron@... writes:

> >

> >

> > > Regarding suppliments: I know some of you are using EFA. I

bought

> some

> > > " Health From The Sun Total EFA " at Whole Foods. The label talks

> about the

> > > " fresh taste " of the liquid. ly, it tastes more like fresh

c--p

> to me

> > > -- really bitter. I'm looking for ideas on how to get this stuff

into

> my

> > > son. I'm putting Poly-Vi-Sol into my son's soy yogurt (it does

change

> the

> > > taste, very metalic, but he's eating it without complaint), but I

> can't

> > > imagine what I would mix this with. Or are there other, more

> palatable

> > > brands that I could try?

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance!

> > > Donna

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi,

In response to the cold pressed flax oil. I have the same thing, and it says on

the bottle that an adult should take 1 tsp. per day. I was wondering how much

to give my son, who is 3 and weighs 31 and 1/2 lbs. Thanks KathyP

Re: EFA

My son gets cold pressed organic flaxseed oil three times a day mixed with

yoghurt. The oil is very mild. If not, then suspect rancidity.

mjh

In a message dated 6/22/02 11:36:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

donnaaron@... writes:

> Regarding suppliments: I know some of you are using EFA. I bought some

> " Health From The Sun Total EFA " at Whole Foods. The label talks about the

> " fresh taste " of the liquid. ly, it tastes more like fresh c--p to me

> -- really bitter. I'm looking for ideas on how to get this stuff into my

> son. I'm putting Poly-Vi-Sol into my son's soy yogurt (it does change the

> taste, very metalic, but he's eating it without complaint), but I can't

> imagine what I would mix this with. Or are there other, more palatable

> brands that I could try?

>

> Thanks in advance!

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry, excuse my last post. I guess I should have read further on in the posts

and I would have got my answer. KathyP

Re: EFA

Yes, BUT my son is 37 and weighs 240......this is really helping his brain

function.

mjh

In a message dated 6/23/02 1:00:06 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

donnaaron@... writes:

> it's rancid -- it's primarily cold-pressed flaxseed oil, but has some

> additional ingredients in it like rosemary and evening primrose oil, so the

> bitter taste is definitely herbal. Doesn't matter now, though, because I

> put a tablespoon in 's soy yogurt and he's eating (and seems to be

> enjoying) it. What do you know! One more question: The label says that a

> " serving " is one tablespoon. Are you giving your son three tablespoons a

> day?

>

[Guest guest]

Look for a store that keeps the flax oil refrigerated, and keep in in

the fridge at home. It gets nasty if not. There is a kid's version

called Essential Balance Jr., made by Omega Nutrition, that is

pleasant-tasting (tastes like butterscotch).

I used to put Poly-vi-Sol in my son's juice. Now I use BrainChild

Nutritionals liquid vitamins. Expensive but we have had good

results. Daytime and nighttime formulas and they are flavored with

lemon, coconut and lime extracts that taste good (no sugar, gluten,

casein, etc.). See www.brainchildnutritionals.com if you want more

info.

> Regarding suppliments: I know some of you are using EFA. I bought

some " Health From The Sun Total EFA " at Whole Foods. The label

talks about the " fresh taste " of the liquid. ly, it tastes more

like fresh c--p to me -- really bitter. I'm looking for ideas on how

to get this stuff into my son. I'm putting Poly-Vi-Sol into my son's

soy yogurt (it does change the taste, very metalic, but he's eating

it without complaint), but I can't imagine what I would mix this

with. Or are there other, more palatable brands that I could try?

>

> Thanks in advance!

> Donna

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If you search the archives and put in EFA you will get loads of

information. I did that after reading a few posts and literally spent

2 days reading about results.

You can also do a search online on essential fatty acids and what

they do for our bodies. I was shocked at the role they play.

As for where to get it www.apraxia.cc has an online shop you can get

the proEFA from. www.nordicnaturals.com is another source. Nordic

Naturals also has a brief description on the ingredients in each

product. www.kirkmanlabs.com is another place to order and read about

them on. ProEFA and ProEPA are brand names of nordic natural

products. The nice thing about their products are the slight lemon

flavor to them. Most of us have children that couldn't/wouldn't

swallow the capsules. So we poke the end of it with a pin and squeeze

it into food or drinks. So if you buy just any product it's likely to

have a slight fishy taste and smell. Also be cautious of the vitamin

A added to some of the brands. (because vitamin A can be toxic if you

get too much)

Lynn

Austin 29 months (LCA)

--- In @y..., " lauren060595 " <squicc515@c...>

wrote:

> Can anyone tell me what ProEPA, EFA and Carasine is? And where do

I

> get them? I have never heard of them and would be willing to look

> into this further for my daughter.

>

> Thanks

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I've joined the group some months ago and have enjoyed reading the

posts. I've been seriously pursuing CHRON the past 6 months, though

I've read Walford and have been interested in the topic for at least 5

years. The crucial thing that got me into the chron groove is when I

made a conscious decision to eliminate junk sugar (as in mass

consumption of ice cream/ desserts etc.) and other junk materials

(refined/processed carbs, hydrogenated oils etc.). I'm down to about

137 - 139 lbs (from a high of 175) on a small 5' 7 " frame, and have

been averaging from 1500 - 2000 calories per day of healthy food based

on CHRON principles. Other basic info about me: 49 years old, reformed

fat/sugar addict; I row everyday on my Concept 2 indoor rower (minimum

of 30 minutes), and consider myself a serious student of Iyengar yoga

(have a daily home practice for the last two years in addition to

class once a week.) My sources of animal protein are: eggs, milk and

fish. i.e, I'm a " semi-vegetarian, " if there's such a term. I've been

sprout-farming the past month or so, based on some of the info I got

from the CHRON files, and I really have been getting into sprouts as a

staple. I don't particularly like eating fish, which kinda leads to

the topic I need help on.

I need some advice and/or comments on the topic of essential fatty

acids. I've come across the Udo Erasmus site <www.udoerasmus.com> and

he basically recommends an omega 3 to omega 6 ratio of 2:1, and in

fact his product (Udo's Choice Oil) supposedly follows this. I went

through his site, and there's a lot of info there that seems useful

with respect to EFAs, specially with regards " conversion ratios " from

plant EFA sources to longer chain omega's (e.g., typically

fish-derived EFAs)- which BTW are still up in the air from a research

standpoint. I supplement my diet with ground flax seed, and have

recently been adding ground sunflower seeds to increase n-6 (which the

latter supposedly is high in). Erasmus claims that ingesting flax

alone (very high in n-3)could lead to n-6 deficiencies later on.

Here's my query to the group:

USDA <http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl>

nutrition data for flax seed (per 100 grams) shows " 18:2

undifferentiated " fatty acids of 4.318 g and for " 18:3

undifferentiated " it's 18.122 g. I assume the " 18:2 " refers to the

omega 6 and the " 18:3 " refers to omega 3? I was assuming that the

latter refers to alpha linolenic acid. I understand that there are

several notational systems used to describe EFA's. Basically, I need

some help on how to accurately/correctly read the USDA lipid

information so that I can play around with the EFA 3 to 6 ratios when

I incorporate seeds/nuts in my diet. Though I'm trying the Udo Oil

supplement in the short term (as an experiment), I'd rather use the

seed/nuts themselves in the long run. Any EFA experts in the group?

I'd also like to hear what the group thinks about the erasmus site, if

you have the chance to study it.

Thanks in advance,

-marlon

[Guest guest]

Hi again Dianne

Please email me offlist at karen.adams1@... and I will direct you.

Re: [ ] EFA

Thanks , I was looking for the articles on EFAs. How do I find them on

the website. Thanks again. Dianne