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Hi all,

If renaming is an issue, I don't see why "CR" is a trademark... I started on the other list 6 years ago or so, and left because there wasn't really anything "new" being posted after the first year -- just lots of volume, half fun, half flames, and half just repetition...

At any rate, "CR" is not a way of thinking owned by others -- even Dr. Walford doesn't have the final say, and so far as I know, he has no formal affiliation with either group. This is just a chat group, not a legal entity, and I see no reason to worry about what it's titled or who doesn't like what it's titled. After all, we're all here to just swap recipes, converse a little, and commiserate about the exigencies of CR.

Cheers,

-----Original Message-----From: Suzanne Cart [mailto:massuz@...]Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 11:03 AMCR Support GroupSubject: [ ] Time to Regroup

FIRST, welcome to all the newcomers. We're so glad to have you here and look forward to getting to know you.

OK, Francesca, you asked for suggestions. Here goes.

I'd be very open to changing our name and broadening our scope beyond CRON. CR is a hypothesis. There are other life strategies that are proven to contribute to longevity and the enjoyment thereof. This board often wanders into discussions that include exercise, psychology, and accident prevention, etc. These are all topics which compliment our practice of CRON. They are very on-topic, IMO.

By widening our focus and changing our name (something like the "Longevity Support Group"...I dunno, whatever) we could possibly reach more people and have more to talk about all in one stroke. And of course I'm sure the CR Society would sincerely appreciate our deleting any reference to "CR" from our name. To be quite honest with you, Francesca, when they wanted us to change our name, I think we didn't get far enough away from the original--my opinion, since you asked for opinions.

I wonder if anyone else shares these sentiments. Before anyone gets carried away, let me affirm that the final decision to make any changes should and does rest with Francesca, since she's our group owner.

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Everything you say is true, . I get in these moods where I just want to rearrange all the furniture. (One night my husband came home late, threw his briefcase on the bed and flopped down on the floor.) Even if we changed the name to the CRON Support Group, I think I'd be happier. But like you say, it doesn't really matter. Thanks for your input.

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From: Gifford

Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:04 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] Time to Regroup

Hi all,

If renaming is an issue, I don't see why "CR" is a trademark... I started on the other list 6 years ago or so, and left because there wasn't really anything "new" being posted after the first year -- just lots of volume, half fun, half flames, and half just repetition...

At any rate, "CR" is not a way of thinking owned by others -- even Dr. Walford doesn't have the final say, and so far as I know, he has no formal affiliation with either group. This is just a chat group, not a legal entity, and I see no reason to worry about what it's titled or who doesn't like what it's titled. After all, we're all here to just swap recipes, converse a little, and commiserate about the exigencies of CR.

Cheers,

-----Original Message-----From: Suzanne Cart [mailto:massuz@...]Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 11:03 AMCR Support GroupSubject: [ ] Time to Regroup

FIRST, welcome to all the newcomers. We're so glad to have you here and look forward to getting to know you.

OK, Francesca, you asked for suggestions. Here goes.

I'd be very open to changing our name and broadening our scope beyond CRON. CR is a hypothesis. There are other life strategies that are proven to contribute to longevity and the enjoyment thereof. This board often wanders into discussions that include exercise, psychology, and accident prevention, etc. These are all topics which compliment our practice of CRON. They are very on-topic, IMO.

By widening our focus and changing our name (something like the "Longevity Support Group"...I dunno, whatever) we could possibly reach more people and have more to talk about all in one stroke. And of course I'm sure the CR Society would sincerely appreciate our deleting any reference to "CR" from our name. To be quite honest with you, Francesca, when they wanted us to change our name, I think we didn't get far enough away from the original--my opinion, since you asked for opinions.

I wonder if anyone else shares these sentiments. Before anyone gets carried away, let me affirm that the final decision to make any changes should and does rest with Francesca, since she's our group owner.

suz

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Heck,

it was only a couple of years ago that the big debate on "cr one" was whether it should be "cran"...adequate nutrition...which was brian's preference, or "cron"...which was my preference, mostly because was the only person who was really interested in adequate. All the rest us were looking for "optimal" nutrition. I said so, apparently clearly, and the discussion stopped. So, anyway, it's now cron, but I'm no longer interested in the other list. I'm interested in cooperation, not competition. I like to help, and appreciated receiving help. I am interested in what seems to work. That's what this list seems to be about, and I appreciate that. I like it when Alan shares his latest research "find" and when anybody shares their personal experiences, whether solutions or problems or just questions. And, , I have always appreciated everything you've contributed to either list.

Ed S.

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From: Gifford

Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:04 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] Time to Regroup

Hi all,

If renaming is an issue, I don't see why "CR" is a trademark... I started on the other list 6 years ago or so, and left because there wasn't really anything "new" being posted after the first year -- just lots of volume, half fun, half flames, and half just repetition...

At any rate, "CR" is not a way of thinking owned by others -- even Dr. Walford doesn't have the final say, and so far as I know, he has no formal affiliation with either group. This is just a chat group, not a legal entity, and I see no reason to worry about what it's titled or who doesn't like what it's titled. After all, we're all here to just swap recipes, converse a little, and commiserate about the exigencies of CR.

Cheers,

-----Original Message-----From: Suzanne Cart [mailto:massuz@...]Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 11:03 AMCR Support GroupSubject: [ ] Time to Regroup

FIRST, welcome to all the newcomers. We're so glad to have you here and look forward to getting to know you.

OK, Francesca, you asked for suggestions. Here goes.

I'd be very open to changing our name and broadening our scope beyond CRON. CR is a hypothesis. There are other life strategies that are proven to contribute to longevity and the enjoyment thereof. This board often wanders into discussions that include exercise, psychology, and accident prevention, etc. These are all topics which compliment our practice of CRON. They are very on-topic, IMO.

By widening our focus and changing our name (something like the "Longevity Support Group"...I dunno, whatever) we could possibly reach more people and have more to talk about all in one stroke. And of course I'm sure the CR Society would sincerely appreciate our deleting any reference to "CR" from our name. To be quite honest with you, Francesca, when they wanted us to change our name, I think we didn't get far enough away from the original--my opinion, since you asked for opinions.

I wonder if anyone else shares these sentiments. Before anyone gets carried away, let me affirm that the final decision to make any changes should and does rest with Francesca, since she's our group owner.

suz

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Awww, thanks Ed. I didn't know you'd remember me! I think we exchanged some emails about opera four or five years ago too, n'est pas? I just performed Sarasto in Die Zauberflote this Spring!

Best,

-----Original Message-----From: Ed Sullivan [mailto:Sully@...]Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Time to Regroup

Heck,

it was only a couple of years ago that the big debate on "cr one" was whether it should be "cran"...adequate nutrition...which was brian's preference, or "cron"...which was my preference, mostly because was the only person who was really interested in adequate. All the rest us were looking for "optimal" nutrition. I said so, apparently clearly, and the discussion stopped. So, anyway, it's now cron, but I'm no longer interested in the other list. I'm interested in cooperation, not competition. I like to help, and appreciated receiving help. I am interested in what seems to work. That's what this list seems to be about, and I appreciate that. I like it when Alan shares his latest research "find" and when anybody shares their personal experiences, whether solutions or problems or just questions. And, , I have always appreciated everything you've contributed to either list.

Ed S.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gifford

Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:04 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] Time to Regroup

Hi all,

If renaming is an issue, I don't see why "CR" is a trademark... I started on the other list 6 years ago or so, and left because there wasn't really anything "new" being posted after the first year -- just lots of volume, half fun, half flames, and half just repetition...

At any rate, "CR" is not a way of thinking owned by others -- even Dr. Walford doesn't have the final say, and so far as I know, he has no formal affiliation with either group. This is just a chat group, not a legal entity, and I see no reason to worry about what it's titled or who doesn't like what it's titled. After all, we're all here to just swap recipes, converse a little, and commiserate about the exigencies of CR.

Cheers,

-----Original Message-----From: Suzanne Cart [mailto:massuz@...]Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 11:03 AMCR Support GroupSubject: [ ] Time to Regroup

FIRST, welcome to all the newcomers. We're so glad to have you here and look forward to getting to know you.

OK, Francesca, you asked for suggestions. Here goes.

I'd be very open to changing our name and broadening our scope beyond CRON. CR is a hypothesis. There are other life strategies that are proven to contribute to longevity and the enjoyment thereof. This board often wanders into discussions that include exercise, psychology, and accident prevention, etc. These are all topics which compliment our practice of CRON. They are very on-topic, IMO.

By widening our focus and changing our name (something like the "Longevity Support Group"...I dunno, whatever) we could possibly reach more people and have more to talk about all in one stroke. And of course I'm sure the CR Society would sincerely appreciate our deleting any reference to "CR" from our name. To be quite honest with you, Francesca, when they wanted us to change our name, I think we didn't get far enough away from the original--my opinion, since you asked for opinions.

I wonder if anyone else shares these sentiments. Before anyone gets carried away, let me affirm that the final decision to make any changes should and does rest with Francesca, since she's our group owner.

suz

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Yes, I think you're right. Sarostro! Wow! I did Speaker a couple of times, about 38 years ago.... I wonder if I could even remember the libretto for Sarostro. Anyway, now, I just bellow around the house.

If you wanna talk music, I'm at sully@.... And, yes, I remember you well.

Ed

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From: Gifford

Cc: Sully@...]

Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 5:51 PM

Subject: RE: [ ] Time to Regroup

Awww, thanks Ed. I didn't know you'd remember me! I think we exchanged some emails about opera four or five years ago too, n'est pas? I just performed Sarasto in Die Zauberflote this Spring!

Best,

-----Original Message-----From: Ed Sullivan [mailto:Sully@...]Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 6:21 PM Subject: Re: [ ] Time to Regroup

Heck,

it was only a couple of years ago that the big debate on "cr one" was whether it should be "cran"...adequate nutrition...which was brian's preference, or "cron"...which was my preference, mostly because was the only person who was really interested in adequate. All the rest us were looking for "optimal" nutrition. I said so, apparently clearly, and the discussion stopped. So, anyway, it's now cron, but I'm no longer interested in the other list. I'm interested in cooperation, not competition. I like to help, and appreciated receiving help. I am interested in what seems to work. That's what this list seems to be about, and I appreciate that. I like it when Alan shares his latest research "find" and when anybody shares their personal experiences, whether solutions or problems or just questions. And, , I have always appreciated everything you've contributed to either list.

Ed S.

----- Original Message -----

From: Gifford

Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 10:04 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] Time to Regroup

Hi all,

If renaming is an issue, I don't see why "CR" is a trademark... I started on the other list 6 years ago or so, and left because there wasn't really anything "new" being posted after the first year -- just lots of volume, half fun, half flames, and half just repetition...

At any rate, "CR" is not a way of thinking owned by others -- even Dr. Walford doesn't have the final say, and so far as I know, he has no formal affiliation with either group. This is just a chat group, not a legal entity, and I see no reason to worry about what it's titled or who doesn't like what it's titled. After all, we're all here to just swap recipes, converse a little, and commiserate about the exigencies of CR.

Cheers,

-----Original Message-----From: Suzanne Cart [mailto:massuz@...]Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2003 11:03 AMCR Support GroupSubject: [ ] Time to Regroup

FIRST, welcome to all the newcomers. We're so glad to have you here and look forward to getting to know you.

OK, Francesca, you asked for suggestions. Here goes.

I'd be very open to changing our name and broadening our scope beyond CRON. CR is a hypothesis. There are other life strategies that are proven to contribute to longevity and the enjoyment thereof. This board often wanders into discussions that include exercise, psychology, and accident prevention, etc. These are all topics which compliment our practice of CRON. They are very on-topic, IMO.

By widening our focus and changing our name (something like the "Longevity Support Group"...I dunno, whatever) we could possibly reach more people and have more to talk about all in one stroke. And of course I'm sure the CR Society would sincerely appreciate our deleting any reference to "CR" from our name. To be quite honest with you, Francesca, when they wanted us to change our name, I think we didn't get far enough away from the original--my opinion, since you asked for opinions.

I wonder if anyone else shares these sentiments. Before anyone gets carried away, let me affirm that the final decision to make any changes should and does rest with Francesca, since she's our group owner.

suz

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