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Yes that would fit the definition of CR. However don't be surprised if

you're hungrier along with the extra exercise.

Walford's books are available in most public libraries. No need to shell

out for them. However most of us have bought a copy just to have on hand

for reference purposes. Try half.com and other used books sites for cheapo

prices.

on 6/12/2003 6:04 PM, paultheo2000 at paultheo2000@... wrote:

> Okay, but if you eat 500 calories above what you should be eating to

> maintain your BW at a healthy level (ad libitum) and you reduce this

> to 250 calories still above what you should be eating, are you realy

> calorie ~restricted~?

>

> In effect my question is: instead of cutting calories, would

> maintaining the same amount of calories but increasing caloric

> expenditure yield the results as simply reducing calories? It seems to

> me that increasing caloric expenditure has three advantages:

>

> 1.) Allows you to maintain caloric intake-thus less deprivation. If

> exercise results in increased hunger this point is nullified,

> naturally--I'm uncertain on this point.

>

> 2.) The health benefits associated with cardiovascular exertion.

>

> 3.) Allows for more optimal nutrition then on a calorically restricted

> diet. Ie; more fruits and vegetables can be eaten and thus more

> antioxidants, etc. can be acquired.

>

> Thoughts?

>

> I'm sorry if these questions have been addressed by Walford or others

> or if they're common knowledge. Unfortunately I don't have access to

> an unlimited amount of books or novels at my disposal.

>

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CR is eating less calories than you would ad lib. It does not seem to mean

that you necessarily have to be hungry although there has been some debate

about this. We really don't have all these answers yet.

The book you mention is one of the older ones. Look for " Beyond the 120

Year Diet " in the public library. Our files are also very useful. Read

them to get a good feel for CRON.

on 6/12/2003 6:57 PM, paultheo2000 at paultheo2000@... wrote:

> Does this mean the CR is defined as being in a state of hunger?

>

> I looked for Walford at the local university and found this book:

>

> " The retardation of aging and disease by dietary restriction " from

> 1988. My guess is that it's quite scientific and without much

> practical advice. If any of you have read it...would your recommend it?

>

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May I add a possible refinement on the definition of the ad lib aspect cr

for life extension? Ad lib for cr purposes should be the amount you would

normally eat assuming you are exercising with frequencies and intensities

necessary to maintain your (specific) body in useful strength and

cardiovascular fitness for good health.

Ed S

PS. I was also almost always hungry in ad lib. I can be quite hungry often

through the day and not lose an ounce.

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From: " Francesca Skelton " <fskelton@...>

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Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:06 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: CR and Cardio

> CR is eating less calories than you would ad lib. It does not seem to

mean

> that you necessarily have to be hungry although there has been some debate

> about this. We really don't have all these answers yet.

>

> The book you mention is one of the older ones. Look for " Beyond the 120

> Year Diet " in the public library. Our files are also very useful. Read

> them to get a good feel for CRON.

>

>

>

> on 6/12/2003 6:57 PM, paultheo2000 at paultheo2000@... wrote:

>

> > Does this mean the CR is defined as being in a state of hunger?

> >

> > I looked for Walford at the local university and found this book:

> >

> > " The retardation of aging and disease by dietary restriction " from

> > 1988. My guess is that it's quite scientific and without much

> > practical advice. If any of you have read it...would your recommend it?

> >

> > -

>

>

>

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