Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 I am so jealous! I wish we cold of gone too! Hopefully next year is right. I am anxious to here all the stories when they get home! Tara and 2 (Poly) P.S. Have a great time at camp. When I was you're age it was my favorite time of year! Enjoy every moment of it because it goes by FAST! (no subject) Does anyone else feel like the kid who didn't get to go on the cool feild trip? I do. Man this board is quiet. Anyway I'm off for my week at the camp I volunteer at tomorrow..So yeah hope everyone has a great week and I'll talk to you all on August 2nd. I have a rheumi appointment on the 5th..good fun! Lots of Love (Polyarticular Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis and Spondyloarthropathy, 19) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 dssll2@... wrote: > *I still haven't received any feedback on anyone who is taking > cellcept and what it is like. I really would like to know. I have > talked with my family and they all want me to try it and see if I get > side effects from it. I went to church today and the pastor and > congrgation gathered round me and prayed for me. I just was so > overwhelmed with the love I felt that I just cried. The church is my > two daughters church and I go there when I visit with them. I am > still very afraid to try this medication after reading about it but > what actual choice do I have other than to just give up and die? Ny > family wants me to be around for a while longer so I guess I will give > it a try and trust that God will carry me through. I also would like > to thank those people who have emailed me their support, it really > does mean a lot to me. * > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2004 Report Share Posted September 11, 2004 Hi h Try chicory thats a great alternative to coffee, it also feeds the good bacteria in the gut. Wishing you well McKelvey U.K. --- sensualwordz@... wrote: --------------------------------- I am back I had been feeling great and feeling lazy about reading mail and doing diet now i am beginning to feel all the old symptoms coming back so i need to get back on the diet tract the only thing i jus t cant bear to give up is my coffee any suggestions for food choices again are helpful I am also trying to stay on atkins diet h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Yes, you will find some days better than others and there is just no way to predict them. One day things are looking up and you may breathe a little easier, then the next day they are feeling poorly and you follow suite with emotions. My daughter, Caitlin, has been in remission since March (without meds). She has a rash now and we are watching to see if it is a reaction to something or Still's acting up. To look at her (up until this rash) you would never know what she has been through:) I hope Hunter is feeling better ASAP. Take care. Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 . There are places where you can get customized wheelchairs, for individuals who may not be able to sit up in a regular wheel chair. Unfortunately, having moved from California, I personally do not know what sources are available to you where your live. Customization, requires using plastic foam beads that are molded to fit the individual then shrink wrapped with the chair covering. I would bet money that some one out there in your area has the information you need. Sincerely Virginia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2004 Report Share Posted September 23, 2004 Thank you, do you remember the name of the product? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2004 Report Share Posted September 27, 2004 Convaid Stroller is what I used very nice at that. convaid.com i belive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2004 Report Share Posted September 28, 2004 thank you, I spoke the people at Neubauer's office last week before the last storm, everyone so far was fine, have you spoken to them? Giovani is getting bigger so I need something new. Will look into that website. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Oh Debs, I am so sorry that you have been so ill. Is everything back in control now, what a time, girl? I will keep you, and the family in my prayers,Tawny > My Dear. Dear Friends: > > A Blessed Christmas and Holiday season to one and all! Hopefully, you can > spend this time with family and friends with as little pain as possible. > > Unfortunately, the reason for my silence has been due to a number of hospital > stays due to sepsis and apparently the lupus has attacked my brain. Some of > these attacks came during the hurricanes that we seemed to attract thi summer > and all ambulances,roads and helicopters were grounded until the winds died > down. Ron had some scarey days with me with a high temperature, no power for > the AC and I had no knowledge of who Ron or the girls were. The same thing > happened on my birthday. Right now the only meds I am on for the RA is > prednisone, placquenil and I am on 3 different antibiotics to keep the sepsis at bay and > then pain medication mainly for my knee. Thru this whole process I have lost > about 50 lbs, but not the way to do it. At this time, my orthopedic surgeon > is thinking of putting a rod in my leg to give me permanent stability as the > fusion is still not complete after 2 years and my pain specialist wants to put > pain blocks in my back to minimize the amount of pain medication I need to > take, but it would not completely relieve all my pain. All these procedures > cannot be attempted until I finish my antibiotic course. > > So this is where I have been hiding. I miss you all and think of you > constantly. Welcome to all the new members!! This is a great place for information, > to vent, and just have a place where you " belong " .! Remember " Whine & > Cheese " is served here daily. > > My love to all of you and yours for a New Year that brings us new medications > without side effects!!!!!! > > Gentle, tender, angel hugs............... > > > Debs in FL > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 Debs, I am so sorry to read you are having such a bad time. I wish things were better for you. You have had a horrible time of it. I do hope you and your family can enjoy the holidays. I do wish you a very healthy New Year. Lynn MeMom BadKneesDebs@... wrote: > My Dear. Dear Friends: > > A Blessed Christmas and Holiday season to one and all! Hopefully, you can > spend this time with family and friends with as little pain as possible. > > Unfortunately, the reason for my silence has been due to a number of hospital > stays due to sepsis and apparently the lupus has attacked my brain. Some of > these attacks came during the hurricanes that we seemed to attract thi summer > and all ambulances,roads and helicopters were grounded until the winds died > down. Ron had some scarey days with me with a high temperature, no power for > the AC and I had no knowledge of who Ron or the girls were. The same thing > happened on my birthday. Right now the only meds I am on for the RA is > prednisone, placquenil and I am on 3 different antibiotics to keep the sepsis at bay and > then pain medication mainly for my knee. Thru this whole process I have lost > about 50 lbs, but not the way to do it. At this time, my orthopedic surgeon > is thinking of putting a rod in my leg to give me permanent stability as the > fusion is still not complete after 2 years and my pain specialist wants to put > pain blocks in my back to minimize the amount of pain medication I need to > take, but it would not completely relieve all my pain. All these procedures > cannot be attempted until I finish my antibiotic course. > > So this is where I have been hiding. I miss you all and think of you > constantly. Welcome to all the new members!! This is a great place for information, > to vent, and just have a place where you " belong " .! Remember " Whine & > Cheese " is served here daily. > > My love to all of you and yours for a New Year that brings us new medications > without side effects!!!!!! > > Gentle, tender, angel hugs............... > > Debs in FL > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2004 Report Share Posted December 23, 2004 hello i am so sorry to hear about all the things going on with you..my prayers are with you and your family..i just joined this support group..i was diagnosed with RA not quite a year ago..but before i was diagnosed i have suffered for years without knowing what was wrong...so i wish you and yours a Merry Christmas... --- Ruf-Caimi <ruf-caimi@...> wrote: > Debs, > I am so sorry to read you are having such a bad > time. I wish things were better for > you. You have had a horrible time of it. I do hope > you and your family can enjoy the > holidays. I do wish you a very healthy New Year. > Lynn MeMom > > BadKneesDebs@... wrote: > > > My Dear. Dear Friends: > > > > A Blessed Christmas and Holiday season to one and > all! Hopefully, you can > > spend this time with family and friends with as > little pain as possible. > > > > Unfortunately, the reason for my silence has been > due to a number of hospital > > stays due to sepsis and apparently the lupus has > attacked my brain. Some of > > these attacks came during the hurricanes that we > seemed to attract thi summer > > and all ambulances,roads and helicopters were > grounded until the winds died > > down. Ron had some scarey days with me with a > high temperature, no power for > > the AC and I had no knowledge of who Ron or the > girls were. The same thing > > happened on my birthday. Right now the only meds > I am on for the RA is > > prednisone, placquenil and I am on 3 different > antibiotics to keep the sepsis at bay and > > then pain medication mainly for my knee. Thru > this whole process I have lost > > about 50 lbs, but not the way to do it. At this > time, my orthopedic surgeon > > is thinking of putting a rod in my leg to give me > permanent stability as the > > fusion is still not complete after 2 years and my > pain specialist wants to put > > pain blocks in my back to minimize the amount of > pain medication I need to > > take, but it would not completely relieve all my > pain. All these procedures > > cannot be attempted until I finish my antibiotic > course. > > > > So this is where I have been hiding. I miss you > all and think of you > > constantly. Welcome to all the new members!! > This is a great place for information, > > to vent, and just have a place where you > " belong " .! Remember " Whine & > > Cheese " is served here daily. > > > > My love to all of you and yours for a New Year > that brings us new medications > > without side effects!!!!!! > > > > Gentle, tender, angel hugs............... > > > > Debs in FL > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2005 Report Share Posted February 19, 2005 Dear All: Okay, I picked seven people who I thought would DO this. Please send this back to me (You'll see why). In case anyone is interested, Saint Theresa is known as the Saint of the Little Ways. Meaning she believed in doing the little things in life well and with great love. She is also the patron Saint of flower growers and florists. She is represented by roses. May everyone be blessed who receives this message. Theresa's Prayer cannot be deleted. REMEMBER to make a wish before you read the poem. That's all you have to do. There is nothing attached. Just send this to seven people and let me know what happens on the fourth day. Do not break this, please. Prayer is one of the best free gifts we receive. There is no cost but a lot of reward. Suggestion: copy and paste rather than forward to protect email addresses and access to e-virus. (Did you make a wish?) If you don't make a wish, it won't come true. St. Theresa's Prayer: May today there be peace within you. May you trust God that you are exactly where you are meant to be. May you not forget the infinite possibilities that are born of faith. May you use those gifts that you have received, and pass on the love that has been given to you....May you be content knowing you are a child of God.... Let his presence settle into our bones, and allow your soul the freedom to sing, dance, praise and love. It is there for each and every one of you. Now, send this to 7 people within the next 5 minutes and your wish will come true. And remember to send this back...you'll see why. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Thanks Debbie my husband wasn't as nice in what he said when I told him everything. teh WVhillbilly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 Just my own opinion, but this doctor seems to have a very big head that is too big for his body! But that is JUST my opinion…statistics indicate that there are very few who can actually go off meds without having a major relapse…listen to your body. As for the “you need to lose weight anyway”…I have one sentence…”Mr. Doctor…sounds like you need some sensitivity training – or go back to medical school” Debby [ ] (no subject) Ok I know I was away for awhile so I want to update everyone on what is going on. I went to my GI 2 wks ago and he told me since I have had 2 normal blood tests that I am cured. I am off the prednisone (since Oct.) and I can quit taking the Imuran or cut it back or what ever I want. He also told me MRI " s don't mean anything so don't worry about them. I am supposed to go back in 6 months but if I am not ill or having any real problems then I am supposed to call and reschedule in another 6 months. He says that unless something serious comes up He doesn't need to see me. When I asked about all the nausea and vomiting he told me to quit eating I needed to lose weight anyway. What do you guys think? I am glad my last 2 tests were good and I only eat 1 meal a day and use Slimfast ultima for the other 2 so I am losing weight but still having trouble with my stomache. Am I cured?I am going to cut my Imuran backa nd eventually quit taking it. If he feels it's not important than why keep taking it? My husband Is MAD but I feel okay so maybe he is right[the doc]. sorry for the book the WV hillbilly Group Rules 1. Please no religious, political, race or sexual preference discussions. 2. NO slamming of other members, advertising or vulgarity. Thank you! To UNsubscribe send a blank e-mail to -unsubscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2005 Report Share Posted March 25, 2005 I knew someone would cut right through the cheese!! Well said! > Just my own opinion, but this doctor seems to have a very big head that > is too big for his body! But that is JUST my opinion.statistics > indicate that there are very few who can actually go off meds without > having a major relapse.listen to your body. As for the " you need to > lose weight anyway " .I have one sentence. " Mr. Doctor.sounds like you need > some sensitivity training - or go back to medical school " > Debby > > [ ] (no subject) > > Ok I know I was away for awhile so I want to update everyone on what is > going on. > I went to my GI 2 wks ago and he told me since I have had 2 normal blood > tests that I am cured. I am off the prednisone (since Oct.) and I can > quit taking the Imuran or cut it back or what ever I want. He also told > me MRI " s don't mean anything so don't worry about them. > I am supposed to go back in 6 months but if I am not ill or having any > real problems then I am supposed to call and reschedule in another 6 > months. He says that unless something serious comes up He doesn't need > to see me. > When I asked about all the nausea and vomiting he told me to quit eating > I needed to lose weight anyway. > What do you guys think? > I am glad my last 2 tests were good and I only eat 1 meal a day and use > Slimfast ultima for the other 2 so I am losing weight but still having > trouble with my stomache. > Am I cured?I am going to cut my Imuran backa nd eventually quit taking > it. If he feels it's not important than why keep taking it? > My husband Is MAD but I feel okay so maybe he is right[the doc]. > sorry for the book > the WV hillbilly > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Hi Veri, When we lived in the Kansas City area (until last summer) we went to KU Med as well... email me, and I can share our experiences a bit more. lbbrain@... Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 HI, Veri. Sorry to hear of 's struggles. It sounds like the drs are taking things seriously and you are moving in the right direction. One thing I would like to note is that RA is a different disease than JRA. Many drs now call JRA, JIA as in juvenile idiopathic arthritis. Just to let you know that. You do not grow into RA because you had JRA as a child. With her skin condition it almost sounds like she may have psoratic arthritis. Many people do not realize that psoriasis can be a form of arthritis. You have done well to have her eyes checked - they should be checked with a slit lamp test at least every 6 months once diagnosed with JRA. Some drs have kids go every 3 months depending on the type. My son had to go for the first year or so after diagnosis and now goes every 6 months. You can find info on the Arthritis Foundation's website www.arthritis.org They have a lot of info there. You have a great source of info here in finding this list. Georgina posts lots of medical info and everyone posts lots of ideas and support to each other. Ask any questions you may have - someone here is bound to have an answer or idea. Good luck to you, Michele ( 18, spondy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 Hi veri, Welcome to the group. Unfortunately I have been adding about two new people to my database each week. 's symptoms sound really familiar to mine. I was 12 when I started having symptoms as you have described. No one in my family has RA either. It is interesting that you say she had problems with skin flaking off on her foot. I had this too and didn't think at first that it had anything to do with the JRA. Is it on her ankle? Mine was on the ankle and eventually my skin broke open because it was so thin. It seemed at that time even socks on my skin was painful. Lukily I have not had it since because it took forever to heal. (poly 35) (no subject) I have a daughter Jaye and she is 11 but will be 12 in a week. A month ago she was diagnosed with JRA. Everything started on October 26th with her foot/ankle so swollen and painful with no explanation of injury. An appointment to the peditrician and x-rays showed nothing. A week later the swelling was from her toes up past her knee and getting worse, we had another appt. with the ped and plenty of blood work and scheduled to see the opthamologist. After the appointment to the opthmalogist to check for interocular inflamation which came back negative, we were scheduled to see a JRA specialist in mid February. The next week the skin on her foot started looking brown and there were areas of dead skin that started flaking off. The ped. scheduled a dopplar study to look for blood clots and found nothing. Since things just kept getting worse and nothing was getting better I requested to see if we could find a different specialist before mid Feb. We were able to get into KU Med Center on November 28th. During the first month the ped. continued to say to keep walking on her foot. Immediatly the JRA spec. said to get her on crutches. She put her on Celebrex and ordered a bone scan and more blood work.We saw the JRA specialist again on Dec. 19th and she diagnosed her with JRA. The bone scan showed an irregularity that she feels is JRA. The bloodwork all came back within normal ranges exept the one on the Thyroid and it was below normal. Her foot was still swollen and painful to walk on but it was beginning to improve. She ordered PT for her and suggested we go to a pool for exercise as often as we can and took her out of her P.E. class. At that time she also added hydroxichloroquine daily. After two and a half months her foot was normal again, no crutches and no limping. After crawling up the stairs on her knees for two months we are now again walking. We no longer are going to PT but are trying to get to the pool five days a week. It is something loves anyway and about the only physical activity she can do at this point. Two days ago she called from school telling me that she was having more pain in her foot and yes it was swelling again but not near as bad. She has alot of stairs at school and for a while they were allowing her to use the elevator. She would prefer to walk the stairs with her friends and so now for a week she did walk the stairs. I am not sure but maybe we will have to limit the stairs from her again. We are scheduled to see an endocrinologist in March to see what to do about the thyroid. I really do not want to put her on another medication. When was 5 she began having seizures and so is already on two anti-seizure medications. She is also using a steroid cream for the dry patches she has that appear on her skin. As far as I know in my family and in her fathers family there is no history of Rheumatoid Arthritis. I know nothing about the RA and so am totally lost. I am searching on the internet for information and of course most of the information does not sound good. I try to not get discouraged but some days it is hard. But when was diagnosed with the seizure disorder I knew nothing about that either and have learned quite a bit. She has been seizure free for nearly three years now and that is promising. I have friend that found this site for me so I have read some of the e-mail for a couple of days. If you have suggestions or thoughts to share with me please do so. Veri, mother of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Hi Veri, I function pretty well right now with Enbrel. I have not had any sores on my ankles for a very long time. I am currently in a flare up right now, but the Enbrel masks it all. I wouldn't think the meds for seizures would cause jRA, but I guess anything is possible. Keep on asking questions. We love them. (poly 35) (no subject) , thanks for both your notes. I have just been dealing with all this for three months and somedays feel so overwhelmed. 's skin each time has healed pretty quickly. She has had area's on her foot, face, ear, eyelid, forhead and her neck, she even got a severe cse of dandruf on the right side of her head for about a week and a half. Of course I am not sure that was related but I think it was. The eyelid and neck seemed to be the most painful but with some cortizone cream we got it taken care of pretty quick. Now we are watching and will use the cream as soon as we see an area start looking bad. I am hoping to be wise enough to keep this stuff documented so that when we go back to the doctor I will have it for her. My forgettery tends to work in overdrive on the day's we see the doctor. How do you function now? Do you have many flair ups? I tend to want to look ahead and think about how this is going to affect my daughter in the future. She was diagnosed at 5 with a seizure disorder and we are still dealing with that, fortunatly seizrue free for 3 years. Now along with the JRA and seizure disorder we are looking at a problem with her thyroid. I keep wondering if the med's she has been on for the seizures have worked against her body to cause the JRA or something. I have so many questions and just do not really know how to ask them all. Veri & Jaye 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Beth, I am so sorry for your loss. God bless you and your family. Lani ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 There should be an " unsubscribe " link or info at the bottom of this message [if you're reading oit on ]; if not please go to your Groups page and edit your membership. In the future it's probably a good idea to know how to get off a list before getting on it. To do otherwise makes you look foolish or inconsiderate. > > (no subject) > <hypothyroidism/message/40043;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMDR2cjc\ yBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDNDAwNDMEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTIxNjM3ODY0Mg--> > > > > Posted by: " B " babycakes442006@... > <mailto:babycakes442006@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%28no%20subject%29> > babycakes442006 <babycakes442006> > > > Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:30 am (PDT) > > Please cancel my membership.. > . > > Take me off this forum > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Getting off this this list is like a scarry movie. Ra ha ha ha ha! cw -- Re:(no subject) There should be an " unsubscribe " link or info at the bottom of this message [if you're reading oit on ]; if not please go to your Groups page and edit your membership. In the future it's probably a good idea to know how to get off a list before getting on it. To do otherwise makes you look foolish or inconsiderate. > > (no subject) > <hypothyroidism/message/40043 _ylc=X3oDMTJxMDR2cjcyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEw DIEbXNnSWQDNDAwNDMEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTIxNjM3ODY0Mg--> > > > > Posted by: " B " babycakes442006@... > <mailto:babycakes442006@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%28no%20subject%29> > babycakes442006 <babycakes442006> > > > Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:30 am (PDT) > > Please cancel my membership.. > . > > Take me off this forum > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 it does amaze me when people who obliviously know how to join a list can't understand how to leave a group... From: Crystal Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:42 AM hypothyroidism Subject: Re: Re:(no subject) Getting off this this list is like a scarry movie. Ra ha ha ha ha! cw -- Re:(no subject) There should be an " unsubscribe " link or info at the bottom of this message [if you're reading oit on ]; if not please go to your Groups page and edit your membership. In the future it's probably a good idea to know how to get off a list before getting on it. To do otherwise makes you look foolish or inconsiderate. > > (no subject) > <hypothyroidism/message/40043 _ylc=X3oDMTJxMDR2cjcyBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEw DIEbXNnSWQDNDAwNDMEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTIxNjM3ODY0Mg--> > > > > Posted by: " B " babycakes442006@... > <mailto:babycakes442006@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%28no%20subject%29> > babycakes442006 <babycakes442006> > > > Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:30 am (PDT) > > Please cancel my membership.. > . > > Take me off this forum > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 On the PBCers org. there is a young lady that is 22 and I've herad of another being 18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 I read on a medical site that the youngest recorded age was 15, with symptoms at age 12. Harper In a message dated 10/15/08 1:47:06 PM, golftexas@... writes: > > On the PBCers org. there is a young lady that is 22 and I've herad of > another being 18. > > > ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & amp; more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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