Guest guest Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 I find plain cocoa bitter but delicious with added sucralose. Yes it has anti-oxidants and is a healthy food in moderation. on 8/1/2003 9:56 AM, paultheo2000 at paultheo2000@... wrote: > Any thoughts? > > -Zulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 Why in moderation though? Is it due the saturated fat content? If I had to rate cocoa I'd place it under vegetables along with lean meat and eggs and just above whole wheat grains. -Zulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 First of all be moderate in ANYTHING. One never knows when they'll find some substance in cocoa or anything else that's bad for you. Second, (and this is strictly anecdotal) a chemist that I regard highly once told me that the cocoa bean (chocolate) was bad for the liver. Many people get have bad side effects such as migraines from chocolate; and it's constipating if eaten immoderately for many people. on 8/1/2003 10:35 AM, paultheo2000 at paultheo2000@... wrote: > Why in moderation though? Is it due the saturated fat content? If I > had to rate cocoa I'd place it under vegetables along with lean meat > and eggs and just above whole wheat grains. > > -Zulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 Ok, I definitely agree with that. Assuming no complications I was just curious if it was a good addition to most recipes from a CRON perspective. I'll look into the potential problems you've mentioned, thanks. -Zulu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 > First of all be moderate in ANYTHING. Back when I was a food science major at the University of Illinois this was the *number one* thing they drilled into our heads. Over-intake of salt was once used as a way of committing suicide (a horrible way to die). We were also told that consuming too much WATER could induce hallucinations and possibly even cause death. We were also told a story of a man who ate nothing but Cheerios (an elderly man who's wife had recently passed away) and consequently suffered horrible malnutrition. So, yes, moderation in ALL things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 Anyone know if there are significant nutritional differences between dutch processed and regular cocoa powder? Thanks. >From: " paultheo2000 " <paultheo2000@...> >Reply- > >Subject: [ ] How healthy is Cocoa? >Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 13:56:05 -0000 > >Hi guys. > >I've found pure cocoa quite delicious in several recipes without the >need for sugar or butter found in chocolate. > >100g of cocoa contains (notably): > >229 calories---quite little considering that the flavor is quite potent. >20g of protein---good source of protein >33g of fiber--great source of fiber, no? >8g of saturated fat--potential downside >128mg of calcium---tangible amount > >It also seems to be filled with other vitamins and minerals (although >I don't know much is a lot). I was also under the impression that >cocoa was full of special antioxidants. > >It doesn't quite stack up to most vegetables but it certainly seems >like a very healthy food choice. > >Any thoughts? > >-Zulu > _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 , I don't know the answer to your question, but didn't know the difference between dutch and regular cocoa powder either. So...did a little search and came up with these explanations. http://forum.mpr.org/WebX?128@@.ee85fb8 http://www.dutchcocoa.nl/ http://food4.epicurious.com/HyperNews/get/archive_swap31801-31900/31802/1/1.html Suz ----- Original Message ----- From: Dowling Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [ ] How healthy is Cocoa? Anyone know if there are significant nutritional differences between dutch processed and regular cocoa powder?Thanks.>From: "paultheo2000" <paultheo2000@...>>Reply- > >Subject: [ ] How healthy is Cocoa?>Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 13:56:05 -0000>>Hi guys.>>I've found pure cocoa quite delicious in several recipes without the>need for sugar or butter found in chocolate.>>100g of cocoa contains (notably):>>229 calories---quite little considering that the flavor is quite potent.>20g of protein---good source of protein>33g of fiber--great source of fiber, no?>8g of saturated fat--potential downside>128mg of calcium---tangible amount>>It also seems to be filled with other vitamins and minerals (although>I don't know much is a lot). I was also under the impression that>cocoa was full of special antioxidants.>>It doesn't quite stack up to most vegetables but it certainly seems>like a very healthy food choice.>>Any thoughts?>>-Zulu>_________________________________________________________________Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 > > First of all be moderate in ANYTHING. Dear : Everything depends on the time and frequency it is done. For example: > We were also told that consuming too much WATER could > induce hallucinations and possibly even cause death. m Remember the old high-scool formula Molarity = ------ V The glucose is measure in mg/dl if you increase plasma volume than your glucose molarity goes down and you have hipoglycemia, leading yourself to halucinations. The same happens with calories and everything. So ... Go by feel (in case of water) and by measures (in case of BP). > consequently suffered horrible malnutrition. > > So, yes, moderation in ALL things! > Well I think dying for hunger is very dificult, specially if you are conscient... If you starve to death, than you will die " healty " (Ironic, isn't it?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 Thanks for your response, Suzanne. I prefer dutch cocoa in general. Interestingly, it's used in most prepared chocolate products and mixes, yet is quite difficult to find as a item by itself. Hershey's used to have a fairly widely available version called " European Style. " But I don't know that they even make that available as a consumer product anymore. My biggest reservation about cocoa is not it's fat content, but it's potential association with Parkinson's disease: " Another food-borne category of potential neurotoxins is the ß-carbolines (harman, norharman, TaClo)48 and the tetrahydroisoquinolines (TIQ), which are structurally similar to MPP+.40 Some of these have been isolated from the brain, cerebrospinal fluid, and plasma of PD patients. They also are consumed in foods such as cheese, cocoa, bananas, milk, eggs, and beef, and they cross the blood-brain barrier.29 The ß-carboline TaClo can be endogenously formed from tryptamine, following exposure to chloral or trichloroethylene, and the TIQs can be formed in the brain from catecholamine condensation with aldehydes.40 Although they are described as " weak neurotoxins, " the long-term effects of chronic exposure have not been well explored. " Coffee has been reported to have a protective effect against Parkinson's, and the association between cocoa and Parkinson's, is, at this point, certainly not conclusively established. Moderation, of course, would be prudent, but it's tough to always be prudent! >From: " Suzanne Cart " <massuz@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: Re: [ ] How healthy is Cocoa? >Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 18:34:13 -0700 > >, I don't know the answer to your question, but didn't know the >difference between dutch and regular cocoa powder either. So...did a >little search and came up with these explanations. > >http://forum.mpr.org/WebX?128@@.ee85fb8 >http://www.dutchcocoa.nl/ >http://food4.epicurious.com/HyperNews/get/archive_swap31801-31900/31802/1/1.htm\ l > >Suz > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dowling > > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [ ] How healthy is Cocoa? > > > Anyone know if there are significant nutritional differences between >dutch > processed and regular cocoa powder? > > Thanks. > > > >From: " paultheo2000 " <paultheo2000@...> > >Reply- > > > >Subject: [ ] How healthy is Cocoa? > >Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 13:56:05 -0000 > > > >Hi guys. > > > >I've found pure cocoa quite delicious in several recipes without the > >need for sugar or butter found in chocolate. > > > >100g of cocoa contains (notably): > > > >229 calories---quite little considering that the flavor is quite >potent. > >20g of protein---good source of protein > >33g of fiber--great source of fiber, no? > >8g of saturated fat--potential downside > >128mg of calcium---tangible amount > > > >It also seems to be filled with other vitamins and minerals (although > >I don't know much is a lot). I was also under the impression that > >cocoa was full of special antioxidants. > > > >It doesn't quite stack up to most vegetables but it certainly seems > >like a very healthy food choice. > > > >Any thoughts? > > > >-Zulu > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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