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Carol: I would recommend " converting " your roomate or getting the hell out

of there (or finding a new roomate). With temptation all around you, you'll

find it much more difficult to stick to a CR diet. The only way I maintain

my discipline is to keep " forbidden " foods out of the house. That way at

least I'm always eating the most healthy foods except for an occasional

treat.

When I attend a social event I sample everything (but try to keep to

sampling only) because it's too difficult to go cold turkey 100%.

Welcome to the group!!!

on 7/31/2003 1:36 PM, Carol, getting conscious at 12steplists@...

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> My situation made much worse

> by having an overeating roommate who buys a lot of fast foods and

> cakes/icecream/pies and then encourages me to eat more than my share. sigh

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Going from overeating to CR is definitely possible. I'm in the mist

of it myself - hopefully heading toward the later end ;) It's a

continual process of improvement. The little changes you make in

your diet will eventually amount to large changes. The files section

of this group contains lot of good info. I would recommend any of

Dr. Walford's books as well.

Don't attempt this without close supervision of your doctor. Make an

appointment and explain to them that you have made up your mind to

change your lifestyle and become healthy. Follow their advice and

keep going back to them regularly throughout your weight loss.

I can only offer you advise that worked for me. I got Dr. Walford's

book 'The Anti Aging Plan' and started immediately reworking my diet

to focus on the " ON " (Optimal Nutrition) side of CRON. By removing

calorie dense/nutrition poor food and replacing them with

nutritionally dense choices, you will automatically eat less calories

and thus start to lose weight. Start small and identify the greatest

offenders, those food that are totally empty calories. Replacing

those types of foods will net you the biggest gains at first.

As you read thru the files on this group and any of Dr. Walford's

books, try out the different foods suggested. I found

experimentation to be a great resource when totally reworking your

food lifestyle. You have to find ways of preparation that are both

convenient, feasible and " work " for you.

I also found (and still do) it very helpfully to keep track of every

calorie I ate. I used Dr. Walford's Windows program but you can just

as easily use a spreadsheet or even index cards. It will be a pain

but it accomplishes three things. One, it makes sure you aren't

eating too many calories. Even though you are eating better foods

you can still find yourself going overboard (at least I did at

times). Two, it makes sure you are eating enough calories. You have

to remember that reducing your calories by too much will start you on

a road to failure. Slowly reducing your calories via the nutritient

dense foods will keep your body from doing a " starvation revolt " .

Three, you teach yourself about proper portions. Learning how many

extra calories one can consume each day, just by having a " little

extra " shocked me. Learning from your caloric budget each day will

improve your ability to plan out meals.

Along with focusing on creating a new eating philosophy for myself I

also started an excerise program. Nothing fancy at first, simply

walking one half mile as fast as I could. It took me 20 minutes and I

was wasted. Six times a week, I would walk. I increased my time

gradually, only 10 seconds per day. When I would get to a time span

that was taking up too much of my time, I would go back to 20 minutes

but pick up the pace and start my 10 second increments again.

Eventually I started doing wind sprints, very slow jogging, for a few

seconds then back to the walking pace. You don't have to confine

your activity to walking. I found that just being active at

something that upped my heart rate for 20+ minutes was very

helpfully. Variety will keep you from becoming bored too.

I also started doing light weight lifting. Again, nothing fancy and

definitely nothing heavy. Dumbbells are perfect. I used the same

philosophy I had with my walking. Small improvements every time I

lifted weights amount to large improvements over time. I feel

combining aerobic excerise with weight training helps to greatly

minize muscle loss when reducing calories. I'm still using the small

improvements method for my current excerise regimen.

One last tip that you might want to try, keep a weight loss journal.

Don't just make it a record of your weight on such and such a date.

Write down your thoughts about your progress, your failures, your

fears/hopes, your goals, etc. I am so happy that I put down my

thoughts and feeling during my journey. I can go back and read those

entries to gain knowledge and insight about myself. I also get

inspiration reading about many of the ordeals I faced. It definately

pays not to forget the road you have taken. Being able to read

my " trip notes " was a boon for me.

I hope my reply, though much longer that I intended to write, helps

in some way.

Mark Boggs, aka PM1K

> I created this address for a couple 12 step groups, but really

don't

> need an overeaters group to somehow make me happy on 1600 calories

a day

> but a health-oriented, CR group to make me happy on maybe 1200 a

day.

>

> I see CR as a philosophy that will help me transcend over eating

(i.e.,

> eating 1000 calories of junk food on top of12-1300 of healthy

stuff). I

> think it's better than merely trying to control the urge to use

food to

> satisfy just about any need or soothe any frustration that arises

> (though that awareness remains necessary). My situation made much

worse

> by having an overeating roommate who buys a lot of fast foods and

> cakes/icecream/pies and then encourages me to eat more than my

share. sigh

>

> I did use CR on my hamster who I let eat all he wanted his first

year

> and he got a bit fat. Read about CR last year and after that

restricted

> his food just enough so he was slim but healthy and he lived to be

> almost 2.5 years, which is towards the maximum for a hamster!

>

> At 55 and at least 70 lbs overweight I can physically feel that

heart

> attack or stroke could claim me momentarily (as it has 4 overweight

> friends, 3 younger than me, in last two years.) Unfortunately, the

fear

> of death hasn't been quite enough motivation to get me going. ;-(

>

> So I've joined 2 CR and will see if either or both

help

> motivate me! (though only occassionally will I post to both, as

here.)

>

> Thanks for listening!

>

> Carol who is trying to get conscious, difficult as it may be in a

pretty

> unconscious world...

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> Carol: I would recommend " converting " your roomate or getting the

hell out

> of there (or finding a new roomate). With temptation all around

you, you'll

> find it much more difficult to stick to a CR diet. The only way I

maintain

> my discipline is to keep " forbidden " foods out of the house.

**This I know, but easier said that done since I have really cheap

rent and an " underearner " problem (too much volunteer work/writing

projects) exacerbated by the recession.

Anyway, did make a chart today that will stick on wall next to my bed

where have to look at it.

Four Columns

DATE WEIGHT AM # CALORIES #STEPS (i.e., number of

extra steps do as exercise, walking, dancing or whatever)

Of course my danged printed refuses to print right now...grr....

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