Re: Weight training and CRON: Should I bother?

[Guest guest]

PMIK: there are people in the group far more qualified than I to comment on

your exercise regimen. But AFA your calorie intake, don't compare yourself

to any other CRONIES. If you are still dropping nicely on 2400-2500 cal

diet, just keep doing it. When you're stabilized then you can consider

slowly lowering your calories to see what happens. Just remember we're all

on different calorie levels because we're all different with different

metabolisms, and I know of at least one successful CRONIE who is eating as

many calories as you are and who is way below set point (in fact probably

too way below).

on 7/17/2003 4:31 PM, Portmaster1000 at portmaster1000@... wrote:

> I am consuming between 2400 - 2500/day, far above what

> I've seen recommended for the CRON diet. With this amount of

> calories, I've lost about 1 lb/week going from 200 to 196 in nearly a

> five week period.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for putting things in focus. I have to remember we're all

different in our dietary demands/needs. Sometimes that fact, even

though I know it's true, seems to slip to the back of my mind.

PM1K

>

> > I am consuming between 2400 - 2500/day, far above what

> > I've seen recommended for the CRON diet. With this amount of

> > calories, I've lost about 1 lb/week going from 200 to 196 in

nearly a

> > five week period.

[Guest guest]

Another point worth considering, if you restrict calories to the point you

consume most of your available energy (stored fat) your body will start

consuming protein. If you are training and building (repairing) muscle, that

protein must come from somewhere. If you don't eat enough protein your body

will consume muscles you aren't using to build the ones you are.

I advocate lifting but you must look at how your body changes and try to

involve all major muscle groups. I actually advocate cardio, and sports too,

but all must be budgeted calorically. For me it's a quality of life issue...

who cares how old you get if you can't play basketball :-)

JR

-----Original Message-----

From: Portmaster1000 [mailto:portmaster1000@...]

Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:34 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Weight training and CRON: Should I bother?

Thanks for putting things in focus. I have to remember we're all

different in our dietary demands/needs. Sometimes that fact, even

though I know it's true, seems to slip to the back of my mind.

PM1K

>

> > I am consuming between 2400 - 2500/day, far above what

> > I've seen recommended for the CRON diet. With this amount of

> > calories, I've lost about 1 lb/week going from 200 to 196 in

nearly a

> > five week period.

[Guest guest]

> I've come to rest at. Will this mean giving up weight

training?

No. But go slowly in dropping down calories!

>

> From all that I've read, with bodybuilding you need a c

alorie surplus

> to allow for repair of muscle and increase muscle mass.

With a CRON

> diet you are maintaining a calorie deficit to keep your

weight below

> your set point. These two concepts seem incompatible.

They are not imcompatible.

Studies shows that

being fat and fit are better than being thin and unfit.

But being thin is better than being fat. So you

have to be *both*.

To be *both* you have to exercise, otherwise you

will loose all the muscle mass you gained

The first thing you need to know for lowering down

the calories is your BMR. That is the energy expenditure

at rest. This is the safe *minimum* you will consume

if you do not exercise.

If you eat below this minimum, you will loose

some muscle mass. Is this good? Perhaps. Perhaps

because you can loose vital tissue also, what is not

aways good. But with less muscle mass your heart will

work less, and other organs too.

You have to take your BP to see if you are safe.

Eg. If your BP is falling slowly, than you are safe.

If it is increasing, something is going wrong.

But to loose the minimum

of muscle mass and the maximum of fat you

have to continue the training and drop down

the weights. As a rule you can adopt: CR30 = 20%

less weights and so on.

> necessary to stop weight training? Is extra muscle mas

s even

> desirable for a CRON diet?

Yes.

My mother is impressed with me, because I eat so little

and I am so strong. I am able to raise a supino of

40 kg = 100 lbs. My weight is 123. The same about

other weights. I weight 120 pounds. No science, only

a partcular case. My BP is 100/60.

Finally:

The more muscle mass (or fat)

you are able to keep at the

same BP and caloric level,

the *greater* your longevity because the

more efficient is your metabolic machine.

-- Gandhi.

>

> I'd love to know the groups opinions and ideas.

>

> thanx

> PM1K

>

>

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