Cows and salt.

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I am responding to Ed S. comment below.

No cows are not encouraged to use salt, they are given free access to it.

Minerals too. I doubt this results in huge overmedication.

The real problem is that salt is often used as an additive to ground grain

in large dosages in order to prevent the grain, which is offered free choice,

from being overconsumed by the cow. I have often wondered about the side

effects of this practice on the cow, the meat and the pasture where she urinates.

It can not be good. In my cow raising days I used this method.

As this is my first post let me say that I will for the most part be a lurker

as I consider a CRON diet, but as this was to an area where I had some background

I decided to post.

Positive Dennis

jwwright wrote:

FWIW, what I ended up doing was

to take my USDA database of foods and average the mineral content for each

of the listed minerals and compare those to sodium to get a mineral to sodium ratio.

Of course I deleted duplicates and those foods with added sodium. Those

values I posted next to the RDA for each mineral and voila - they looked

a lot alike. I figure the RDA folks used the same technique. Not a req'ts

definition but it was the only technique I could use to evaluate the large

variance in sodium rec's. In the end I just chose to not use any, and I

discovered that foods tasted differently without the salt. Suddenly I could

actually taste the mild flavors in steamed potatoes, squash, etc.

Regards.

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Ed Sullivan

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Wednesday, May 07, 2003 11:04 PM

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Re: [ ] Re: Quick Salt Question

Yes.

Walford comments that lab animals on

a high sodium diet live shorter lives than controls, although they don't

necessarily die of cv related conditions.

Those people who follow a faith-based

paleo diet will note that the paleo diet was estimated to be somewhere

in the neighborhood of 20/1. Some fish, and most meat (without seasoning,

of course) come in somewhere around 2/1 to 4.5/1. Of course beef is

provided with salt, and cows are encouraged to eat salt...so they tell

me...so contemporary animal flesh may have a lower k/Na ratio than in

days of old.

Ed S.

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jwwright

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Wednesday, May 07, 2003 9:43 AM

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Re: [ ] Re: Quick Salt Question

Thanks Ed,

That's the book I read some

years ago and I couldn't find a lot wrong with it as I recall.

Let me say also that a large

percentage of folks like 35% will experience HTN as they grow older.

It is thought that CR - keeping weight at nominal - will prevent/delay

HTN, but the basic mechanism for most people is that BP rises due to

age. Part of that is aging and part is a gene that makes 35% more susceptible

to weight increase/atherosclerosis, whatever. So I think sodium is more

important to most people - not just "salt-sensitive" people.

Stroke is Number 3.

Regards.