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Alice: Welcome to the group!

CRON should not be lumped with other " diet plans " . It is a way of eating

that will make you healthier, and help you live longer (at this time, all

animal studies point to that). Study our files (just go to the home page

at: / and click on " files " ).

And if you haven't read Dr Walford ( " Beyond the 120 Year Diet - available in

most libraries) be sure and get a copy of his book. The book is an

extremely interesting read. A lot of your questions will probably be

answered. If you still have questions after that, we'll be happy to answer

them. In the meantime, just follow the suggestions in the file: " CR Made

Easy " , to start off and see if you don't start losing some weight (as a

by-product of eating healthier).

BTW how much is your actual weight and height? And how old are you? This

info is needed in order to give you any advice.

on 8/9/2003 2:05 AM, Alice Liddell at louse_liddell@... wrote:

> I'm confused about exactly how many kcal I should consume each day.

> According to my calculations my BMR is around 1380 at the moment, at

> my goal weight it will be around 1300 kcal. Am I suposed to reduce

> my intake to 75% of that or ...? Most of the diet plans I find

> suggest anywhere from a 1200-1800 kcal diet. That doesn't seem like

> much of a change to me, but I'm afraid of eating too little...

>

> Any advice at all would be absolutely wonderful!

> :)

>

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> Alice: Welcome to the group!

>

> CRON should not be lumped with other " diet plans " . It is a way of

eating

> that will make you healthier, and help you live longer (at this

time, all

> animal studies point to that). Study our files (just go to the

home page

> at: / and click

on " files " ).

> And if you haven't read Dr Walford ( " Beyond the 120 Year Diet -

available in

> most libraries) be sure and get a copy of his book. The book is an

> extremely interesting read. A lot of your questions will probably

be

> answered. If you still have questions after that, we'll be happy

to answer

> them. In the meantime, just follow the suggestions in the

file: " CR Made

> Easy " , to start off and see if you don't start losing some weight

(as a

> by-product of eating healthier).

>

> BTW how much is your actual weight and height? And how old are

you? This

> info is needed in order to give you any advice.

>

I'm 22, 5'3 " , 125lbs, with a small frame. Most medical guides target

my ideal weight between 111-118lbs.

I do realize the primary focus of this method is not to lose weight,

but to live a longer healthier life... I just worded it poorly :)

I get confused about the " eat 65% of what a person would eat

unrestricted " . The figure keeps popping up at 1500-1800kcal. I would

gain weight in that range, so it really wouldn't slow my metabolism

at all.

Thank you very much for your response! I will see if my library has

a copy of that book.

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Sorry if my math was incorrect. I believe cutting to 1300 would be about

30% restricted.

Francesca wrote:

If you eat say 1800 cal ad lib and cut this to 1500 on CRON, you would be

about 30% restricted.

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" eat 65% of what a person would eat unresticted " that would mean

eating 35% less. You're reading me backwards. I know a study in

the '40s showed eating 50% less caused all kinds of psychotic

behavior and mental disorders... I really don't need that, lol.

Thanks for mentioning not going below 1000 kcal. I know everyones

set point is unique, but I'm trying to figure out a safe range to

start in.

>

> > I get confused about the " eat 65% of what a person would eat

> > unrestricted " .

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> I'm confused about exactly how many kcal I should consume each day.

> According to my calculations my BMR is around 1380 at the moment, at

> my goal weight it will be around 1300 kcal. Am I suposed to reduce

> my intake to 75% of that or ...? Most of the diet plans I find

> suggest anywhere from a 1200-1800 kcal diet. That doesn't seem like

> much of a change to me, but I'm afraid of eating too little...

It depends of a lot of factor. Eating *exactly* the BMR is very difficult

(I would say impossible) for several reasons:

1) because CR induces BMR variations

2) because you don't have a precision ballance at your house to be sure.

3) because you will be *so* hungry (believe me) that you will binge

frequently.

4) because unless you have lot of fat stored this is unhealthy.

5) because at this CR level you can't exercise (need to stay still).

My advice is to consult your phisician before trying this approach. Note

that BMR is

the minimum for any CR approach.

Now I have a BMR of 1440 kcal and a caloric intake of 1440-1600 kcal.

It's close to the minimum.

Begin CR at a less radical level, say 2200 kcal/day. This is preety

good IMHO.

Don't try to be a perfectionist now....

-- GAndhi.

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