Guest guest Posted June 15, 2003 Report Share Posted June 15, 2003 I saw one report that raw fish parasites (fish got from eating snails) led to liver cancer. But another suggested raw fish was protective against lung and prostate cancer. The only thing I've seen recently about causing stomach cancer was capsaicin (the hot in hot pepper). The Japanese do have high rates of stomach cancer but I don't know if the cause is known (is does drop after they move to the US). Theories range from smoking to low vegetable intake, with nitrates also being suspect. Perhaps that's your fish connection since nitrates were used to preserve fish before refrigeration was available. You're probably more likely to get cancer from overcooking meat than eating it raw, but parasites are a plenty good reason to cook it, not to mention it taste a lot better IMO. JR -----Original Message----- From: Francesca Skelton [mailto:fskelton@...] Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 12:27 PM support group Subject: [ ] more on raw meat The Japanese have the highest rates of stomach cancer in the world. Many scientists think it's because of the large amounts of raw fish they consume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2003 Report Share Posted June 15, 2003 > You're probably more likely to get cancer from overcooking meat than eating > it raw, but parasites are a plenty good reason to cook it, not to mention it > taste a lot better IMO. > > JR > the parasite thing is certainly an unresolved issue; i'm not a dogmatic defender of raw meat and i realize there are good arguments on both sides as to whether we should worry about parasites, so i agree it's a valid concern. for now, my personal decision is not to worry about it since i know the source of my meats and can be confident that the animals were in good health and raised in good conditions, so parasites should be rare, and a few parasites once in a while shouldn't be a big deal for a healthy person. in many cases i would agree that cooked meat tastes better than raw meat, depending on source, cut, method, etc, but the overwhelming consensus i've heard from folks who've experimented with this issue is that the most delicious raw meat is a hundred times tastier than the most delicious cooked meat, and my own experience confirms this. until i actually experienced it myself, i would've never dreamt in a million years that it could taste so good. i'm referring to beef and vension here. the good stuff can melt in your mouth like good sashimi, but with a sweeter flavor. it's unreal. mike parker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2003 Report Share Posted June 15, 2003 : Although you didn't get sick, it's not a good idea to do that. I've also eaten some ' " questionables " sitting around my fridge (after I began CR) and unlike you, have wound up food poisoning. Not near death's door, by any means, but feeling pretty lousy . I've learned my lesson and now throw out anything that doesn't look/smell/taste just right and I think it prudent to advise others to do the same rather than risk 24 or 48 hours wretching and throwing up or having diarrhea. It just ain't worth it. A few parasites shouldn't be a big deal for a healthy person? Parasites can't be eradicated by the immune system like bacteria or viruses. Parasites are tapeworms, tics, pinworms, leeches, fleas, etc which will live off whomever, whatever they can fasten themselves to. on 6/15/2003 9:59 AM, Anton at bwp@... wrote: > so parasites should be > rare, and a few parasites once in a while shouldn't be a big deal for a > healthy person. i've eaten raw meat sitting in my fridge for over a month that must have an awful lot of bacteria in it, especially when it's grey and a little slimey, and i haven't had the slightest response. try not cooking meat--it's really good that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2003 Report Share Posted June 15, 2003 > A few parasites shouldn't be a big deal for a healthy person? Parasites > can't be eradicated by the immune system like bacteria or viruses. > Parasites are tapeworms, tics, pinworms, leeches, fleas, etc which will live > off whomever, whatever they can fasten themselves to. i think they feed off stuff for a while and eventually leave. i understand they increase the need for vitamin A. if i find out i have parasites sometime, it'll be a great excuse to eat some liver. by the way, there have been successful treatement of Crohn's disease by feeding people tapeworms. there's still so much we don't understand. mike parker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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