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All those cholesterol lowering drugs are dangerous. What a sham! If you

need to lower cholesterol, castor oil packs over the liver will do it with

zero side effects. I wish everyone knew how horrid it is that the big drug

companies are making billions of dollars when more often than not, there is

a safe, easy, inexpensive solution. Betsy

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Well this drug is used to lower ones cholesterol, but.....the side effects

are horrid, and you have to have blood taken every other month or some docs

say once every 6 months to monitor your liver.... in other words it can reak

havoc on ones liver.. and if you have had any liver problems at all this

drug

or any like it are not for you..

Milk Thistle is a great alternative.. taken in high dosages in a tinture

.....

takes longer to work but.. no side effects

Robin

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I have also read, from Dr. , that about 3 grams of citrus pectin a

day will completely clear your artieris of plaque. As I recall it justs takes

a few months.

Donna

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All those cholesterol lowering drugs are dangerous. What a sham! If you

need to lower cholesterol, castor oil packs over the liver will do it with

zero side effects. I wish everyone knew how horrid it is that the big drug

companies are making billions of dollars when more often than not, there is

a safe, easy, inexpensive solution. Betsy

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As was pointed out to me the other day---castor oil on the skin does

have a side effect!--it may activate bowel activity. :-)

I find myself in that .1% group of side effects from a drug that I

took 15 years ago!! Please look at all the side effects and decide

if you can live with even the remotest one.---or in this case NOT

Along with castor oil packs I've heard that Red Yeast Rice is good

for lowering cholesterol. Some of the information I read indicates

that high cholesterol may be associated with insulin levels. The

book Sugar Busters is a good read, it explains why liver makes

cholesterol and why the body needs it.

Elaine

> Well this drug is used to lower ones cholesterol, but.....the side

effects

> are horrid, and you have to have blood taken every other month or

some docs

> say once every 6 months to monitor your liver.... in other words it

can reak

> havoc on ones liver.. and if you have had any liver problems at all

this

> drug

> or any like it are not for you..

> Milk Thistle is a great alternative.. taken in high dosages in a

tinture

> ....

> takes longer to work but.. no side effects

> Robin

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Below is an interesting quote from the fats and oil test under

" Health and Wellness Information " at http://www.piccadillybooks.com/ .

-- Helge

Our body regulates the amount of cholesterol it produces. It sets a

point at which it is happy with and tries to maintain that level. If

we reduce the consumption of fats in our diet the liver produces

more, if we increase our fat intake the liver produces less. This is

the reason why dietary approaches to controlling blood cholesterol

(even reducing total fat intake to only 20 percent of total calories)

have only minor effects. Very low fat diets (10 percent of total

calories or less) and cholesterol-lowering drugs affect the normal

function of the liver inhibiting its ability to produce cholesterol.

>All those cholesterol lowering drugs are dangerous. What a sham!

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Well, you are both right, but in both of these comments there was no mention of

the differences in fats and how they effect the production of cholesterol. The

good cholesterol, HDL (High Density Lipoprotein) is produced by the liver when

it gets the Essential Fatty Acids it needs to do so, and is obtained by

consuming fats that are essential. It also produces the LDL (Low Density

Lipoproteins), too, but in balance with the bodies need for both when it isn't

burdened with an intake of fats that are not nutritious to the liver's needs.

Those types of fats are, as noted by Donna, margarines or a solidified vegetable

fat like Crisco oil. However, it's possible to get a vegetable oil that is good

to use, but the next problem is destroying it by too much heat in the cooking

process.

Exercise, Fiber, and Fats work together to control the cholesterol levels. The

exercise helps the body to use the fats that have accumulated and the intake of

the right fats helps the liver to produce the HDL cholesterol in greater

abundance to help in the removal of grease, other fats, and LDL from the

bloodstream. This in turn helps to reduce the amount of the LDL readings that

most people are in need who are suffering with heart trouble or other LDL

issues.

We often hear that a diet high in fiber is known to help in the reduction of LDL

cholesterol. However, what they fail to explain is that this is because it acts

as a medium for the bile the liver produces to get the LDL cholesterol out of

the body. Bile is made of bile salts, cholesterol, bile pigments, taurine,

lecithin, lipids and electrolytes. (The Liver Cleansing Diet - page 39). So,

what we want to do is make sure our diets have a sufficient amount of fiber,

soluble and insoluble, as well as the right type of fat (Essential Fatty Acids)

intake to get the liver functioning to help in emulsifying and removing the fats

that have accumulated from years of misuse of our bodies from eating the

non-nutritious fats.

The HDL cholesterol along with an intake of soluble and insoluble fiber is just

a couple of the things the body needs to get the heart and liver working at an

optimal level.

Dale

>>>>You bet, Helge. The most important thing for keeping cholesterol at happy

levels, is fiber. It has nothing to do with fats. Except, of course, man made

fats like crisco or margarine, But I would hope that no one on this list is

eating those anyway.

Donna

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Below is an interesting quote from the fats and oil test under

" Health and Wellness Information " at http://www.piccadillybooks.com/ .

-- Helge

Our body regulates the amount of cholesterol it produces. It sets a

point at which it is happy with and tries to maintain that level. If

we reduce the consumption of fats in our diet the liver produces

more, if we increase our fat intake the liver produces less. This is

the reason why dietary approaches to controlling blood cholesterol

(even reducing total fat intake to only 20 percent of total calories)

have only minor effects. Very low fat diets (10 percent of total

calories or less) and cholesterol-lowering drugs affect the normal

function of the liver inhibiting its ability to produce cholesterol.<<<<<

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" bandages are clearly correlated with wounds. "

So, what you're telling me is that cholesterol is to heart disease as

bandages are to wounds? With all due respect the point was cute and

flippant, but incorrect. It is a false way to question the concept of

correlation between cholesterol and heart disease. On the analogies

section of an IQ test, you'd lose a point. Science relies heavily on

correlative statistics to establish mechanistic/stochastic

relationships between experimentally measured/observed phenomena.

Without getting into mathematical detail, in cardiology, broad

statistical studies of large populations have been used to establish

putative relationships between observed phenomena, thus allowing the

formulation of hypotheses, which in turn, can drive laboratory

experiments to better understand molecular CV biology, physiology and

pathology. Walford appreciates this approach, as do all good

scientists.

My point about science being self correcting is particularly pertinent

to the relatively recent appreciation of homocysteine's importance in

CV disease. This point had been denied or, at least ignored, by

mainstream scientists for years. No conspiracy here, just persistent

neglect that was eventually corrected. Analogous to this is Stanley

Prusiner's resurrection (and Nobel Prize) for his discovery of prions,

the existence of which was against orthodoxy. But just because a

theory is against orthodoxy doesn't mean it is correct (it does make

it attractive to conspiracy t

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On Sat, 14 Jun 2003, thin_man02 wrote:

> >From " Beyond the 120-Year Diet " --

>

> " A $150 million tracking study supported by the National Heart, Lung

> and Blood Institute established that lowering cholesterol in blood

> reduces coronary risks. " p. 107

>

> In the Framingham study, lower blood cholesterol levels were

> associated with lower risk of heart disease.

>

> " Keep yours [cholesterol] below 180 and you very likely will never

> have a heart attack. Below 150, you almost certainly will not. " p.

> 108

>

> We could go to the PubMed search engine of Medline and drag up the

> original references relating to cholesterol and heart disease. But

> there are thousands of them, it's Saturday, the sun is out, and after

> all the rain we've had in these parts, fresh air beckons.

>

> Anyway, given a choice between the advice of Drs. Walford and Ravnskov

> (2003 awardee of The Weston A. Price Foundation!), I'll stick with

> Walford, thank you very much.

if you've actually READ Ravnskov you wouldn't have written this post.

judge for yourself. (and let's see, whose specialty is this topic, and

who's probably read hundreds more journal articles and spent thousands

more hours studying this topic, Ravnskov or Walford? hmm.)

> ps. By the way, if one eats raw meat, one is at greater risk of

> bacterial infection (salmonella, etc.), trichinosis, and various

> parasites. Try cooking meat--it's really good that way. Primitive

> man discovered this way before he was so terribly corrupted by

> agriculture, and succumbed to b

i have no interest in discussing or defending raw meat, as there are other

forums and sources of information and other people with much more

knowledge and experience than myself. the only comment i should make is

that raw meat has been a basic food for our species from the beginning and

large numbers of people eat it on a regular basis without any problems,

especially not from bacterial " infections " , which are simply all in a

day's work for a good immune system. i've eaten raw meat sitting in my

fridge for over a month that must have an awful lot of bacteria in it,

especially when it's grey and a little slimey, and i haven't had the

slightest response. try not cooking meat--it's really good that way.

mike parker

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