Re: How to lower the body temp

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This page says that meditation can lower body temp (anti-aging effect):

http://www.stmarys.org/cancer/resource/meditation.asp

I quote: Physiological Benefits

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Only two factors have been scientifically determined to actually extend

life - caloric restriction and lowering of the body's core temperature.

Meditation has been shown to lower core body temperature.

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-- Gandhi

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From: Francesca Skelton <fskelton@...>

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Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 5:27 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] body temp (was Nourishing Traditions bySally

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> Could you elaborate on body temperature decrease leading to longer life?

I

> haven't seen this before. Any studies on this?

>

>

> on 8/15/2003 7:37 AM, o Luiz Alonso at

ronaldo.luiz.alonso@...

> wrote:

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> > CR decreases body temp from 37 to 36. ONLY

> > CALORIC RESTRICTION is able to do this. In other words this is not

> > obtained by restriction of fat, proteins or carbs. 1 C decreases leads

to

> > 10% increase in life because of Arrhenius Equation. So beyond mediating

> > insulin, CR acts in ** ALL ** aging process.

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[Guest guest]

> This page says that meditation can lower body temp (anti-aging

> effect): http://www.stmarys.org/cancer/resource/meditation.asp

> I quote: Physiological Benefits

> .................

> Only two factors have been scientifically determined to actually

> extend life - caloric restriction and lowering of the body's core

> temperature. Meditation has been shown to lower core body

> temperature.

> .................

>

> -- Gandhi

*****FYI: meditation can also RAISE core body temperature. Yogis

are able to stay " warm " in bitter cold, sub-zero weather for

*extended* periods of time. Or, even a neater trick: they can be

wrapped in cold, wet blankets in winter, sit outside, meditate and

voila! the blankets are dry. (Sure saves on electricity bills, huh!)

One who has learned the " meditative arts " to such an extent (and it

can take almost a lifetime to achieve this) may have PROFOUND control

over a host of bodily systems. And the person may still die young!

Meditation, in and of itself, does not prolong life nor health,

necessarily. It is one component (an important one, true) that is

part of a constellation of " tools " that may lead to health and

longevity. But, as in all things, there are no guarantees.

~ andy

[Guest guest]

Hi Andy:

You are right.

I heard something about increase body temp with meditation.

These methodos don't provide life extension per se.

I think that the trick (lowering temp) has to do with

decrease of metabolism. E.g. when you exercise you increase metabolism

(and body temp), but when you meditate you decrease it.

It's hard to explain in simple terms why sometimes INCREASE body temp

(and metabolism)

is health (because of heat shock proteins HSPs and phisiologic benefits) and

sometimes

DECREASE body temp (or metabolism) is also health (because

of the anti aging effect) seems contradictory isn't it? But is not!

1) HSPs do a lot of reparations inside the cell WHEN THE CELL ARE CR.

However with the cell in AL the increase of temp generate more free

radicals nulifying

the effects of HSPs and acelerating Maillard reactions

(AGE formations) in homeotermics.

2) Exercise increase metabolism (and body temp) but has phisiologic

positive effects that

increase *mean* (not maximum lifespan) it squares the survivor curve.

3) Some drugs like benzodiazepines provides control over stress, but

they

cause dependence. I think this can be self adquired with time without use

of substantances as you point:

> One who has learned the " meditative arts " to such an extent (and it

> can take almost a lifetime to achieve this) may have PROFOUND control

> over a host of bodily systems.

But this is not a guarantee of long life:

>And the person may still die young!

> Meditation, in and of itself, does not prolong life nor health,

On the other hand, CR is a safe bet! CR is a guarantee!

-- Gandhi.

[Guest guest]

I wrote, previously:

> > One who has learned the " meditative arts " to such an extent (and

> > it can take almost a lifetime to achieve this) may have PROFOUND

> > control over a host of bodily systems.

You responded:

> But this is not a guarantee of long life:

> >And the person may still die young!

> > Meditation, in and of itself, does not prolong life nor health,

Hey o ~

I only mentioned the " stuff " about meditation to point the

understanding that the popular (in the media) notion of mind & body

is not exactly accurate. The mind and the body are not, in fact,

two. They are so inextricably intertwined in a single " system " that

it is more accurate to refer to it as the mindbody complex.

It is a single mechanism; thought-emotion can produced physiological

changes (both good and bad) and somatic alterations will often affect

the thought-emotion component of the system. People have

literally " thought themselves sick " as well as healed themselves via

thought. There is much *serious* research in this area...been going

on for over a decade, especially in areas regarding cancer [i

obviously have a vested interest there!!] as well as other autoimmune

diseases.

Meditation mavens (e.g., yogis), who have practiced a variety of

these " mental " techniques for decades, seem to have much " success "

with " mind control " over bodily states. However NONE of what I was

babbling about was meant to suggest that such abilities confer either

health or longevity. Just another component regarding the issue of

health and longevity: sound mind, sound body stuff. :-))

> On the other hand, CR is a safe bet! CR is a guarantee!

" Isn't it pretty to think so. "

(cited: Jake ' response to Lady Brett at the close of

Hemingway's " The Sun Also Rises, " when she said, plaintively, " Oh,

Jake. We could have had such a damn good time. " (Then he turned and

walked out of her life. Forever.)

The truth is - regarding CR and everything else in the universe:

*nothing* is guaranteed! ;-)

except perhaps death...and the jury is still out on that one!

Hahaha!!!

~ andy