Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 Hi All, Please see below what I thought was an interesting and informed post on the main CR mailing list that I thought you interested in also. Cheers, Al. Al, Yes, you can forward it, but please credit it to me: Liza May, M.S. phone: 301-261-0555 fax: 410-451-6105 email: lizamay@... 1153 Route 3 North Suite 41 Gambrills, MD 21054 > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Pater [mailto:apater@...] > Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 5:55 AM > lizamay@... > Subject: RE: CR, " it's all down to willpower in the end, innit? " > > > Hi Liza, > > Thank you for your post. > > Would you give me permission to forward your message to the > ! CR Support Group, please. > > Cheers, Al. > > -----Original Message----- I wish I had time to respond at length to the message below, but I can't now. But some quick comments: 1. Overcoming addictions is HARD for most people. NOT easy. If it was easy, it wouldn't be called an addiction. 2. Articles like this, particularly when they come from an MD, are discouraging. People already hate themselves enough and endure relentless self-criticism about being addicted without having to hear that they don't even have a reason to be struggling. 3. Food addictions are harder than drugs, alcohol, or cigarettes because: A. You can't stop eating like you can stop other things. You have to practice moderation, which is *much* harder (especially for " extreme " types, like addicted people often are) than stopping completely. B. Quitting smoking requires one decision. Quitting " too many carbohydrates " means making decisions over and over and over again, continually, for the rest of your life. And having to *keep* thinking about the thing you're trying to not think about anymore. C. Societal pressure to eat, to eat enough, to eat certain foods, to " eat what I cooked for you, " people's fears (hard-wired and ancient) about distressed eating behaviors, an onslaught of unhealthy " foods " (a misnomer) attacking you wherever you try to hide, images and attitudes in the media ... all this makes food and eating a treacherous labyrinth of seductions and confusions. 4. People surely differ genetically as far as the strength of their addiction to a particular substance. It is *nonsense* to say how " easy " or " hard " addictions " in general " are, for " all " people. There are genes that make one person almost chained to nicotine while another can give up cigarettes cold turkey with no problem. 5. People differ genetically when it comes to the *psychological* aspects of addictions. It is *nonsense* to say that addictions (which?) " should be " easy for everyone to kick. We have different personalities. 6. Everyone's circumstances are different. There is a reason a person becomes addicted in the first place, and it was a *good reason.* No one can say if or when another person should be able to figure a better way of dealing with his or her particular challenges. 7. Fat stores toxins. The more fat you carry, the larger the toxic load that will have to be broken down and eliminated. Circulating toxins can make you sick, in fact they can kill you. If you are very fat, you will have to be very careful stopping any toxic substance " cold turkey " to make sure that your system is able to handle the high level of poisons being eliminated. Advice that " anyone can and should " go cold turkey is not only incorrect, and frustrating, it is also dangerous. 8. Some people rip off band-aids and jump off the high-dive into icy water. Other people pull their band-aids off bit by bit and wade inch by inch into the lake. There is no " right " way to do anything, and that includes kicking addictions. 9. It seems obvious to me that the person who decides to kick a habit on his own, without any outside help, would be pretty motivated to succeed. Not a well reasoned article. 10. Addiction " industry? " What in the world is that?!? The people I know who work in substance abuse are truly good people, most working for very low pay, because they want to work " in the trenches " helping people who are struggling on very base-line, core life-and-death issues. The work is inspiring but it doesn't pay. If you've never seen heroism up close,or want to learn about grit and the sheer fierceness of will and human spirit, I recommend it. Liza Hi All, The below may be as " man in the street " reporting from Lancet as it becomes. But it may bear on how easy or difficult that it is to do CR. I prefer to compare myself with others who have greater problems than myself or have achieved more than I have. So it may be for some of us useful to take a perspective of challenges such as CR presents to some of us. Genetics can be a difficulty, but there are obese who take it upon themselves to make necessary changes or desired changes. Cheers, Al. -------------------------- Mike Fitzpatrick Doctoring the risk society Addiction myths When a patient came into the surgery recently about some mundane problem, I recalled that the last time I had seen him—several years ago—he had told me about his long-standing heroin habit. He was now looking conspicuously healthy and well groomed and he confirmed that he had given it up. So what happened? He said he had " just got fed up with it " . How had he done it— methadone, rehab, religion? No, he just decided one day that he had " had enough " and stopped. Just like that? Pretty much—he was " a bit rough " for a few days, but then " that was it " . This account, like many other similar stories I have heard over the years, confirms that " cold turkey " is a myth. Although the notion that stopping heroin induces a devastating withdrawal syndrome is sustained by druggy novels like Trainspotting, it seems to have little foundation in reality. Just as many patients who have been prescribed opiates in high doses for therapeutic purposes stop suddenly without significant adverse effects, so do many who use heroin recreationally. I have met more people who have succeeded in giving up drugs through their own efforts than I have those who have emerged successfully from treatment programmes. It has become fashionable to claim that various demonised substances, such as nicotine and, most recently, junk food, are " as addictive as heroin " . This relieves consumers of personal responsibility for their behaviour and delivers them into the hands of the professionals. But if, as my patient and many others can testify, heroin is not so addictive after all, then perhaps breaking these bad habits is not as difficult as it is made out to be? Perhaps people can manage their lives without professional intervention after all. This may be bad news for the burgeoning addiction industry, which incorporates an army of health-promotion activists, counsellors, and lawyers pursuing class actions against manufacturers of cigarettes, alcohol, and hamburgers. But it is good news for all those who fear that they are in the grip of a chemical dependency, when all they really have is a bad habit. As my former junkie succinctly put it, " it's all down to willpower in the end, innit? " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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